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some_guy, w Steam Next Fest is back and underway with "hundreds" of playable PC demos

A demo has never once sold me on a game, going all the way back to shareware days.

However, I can think of countless times a demo has convinced me not to buy a game.

snooggums,
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Really?

Doom's shareware sold Doom for me. Most recently the Tekken 8 demo sold itself. In between there have been a ton of games where the demo was helpful in deciding whether or not to play something.

I'm just surprised that in all that time there wasn't a single one that at a minimum confirmed a game was what you were expecting if you were on the fence.

I believe it, just surprised.

GammaGames,

You’re definitely the outlier

ampersandrew,
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Nah, demos largely disappeared because they not only took a bunch of resources to make but also had a far better chance of convincing you not to buy a game than to buy it, especially if you had other means of marketing it. Many people even enjoyed the demo but felt that they got their fill and therefore didn't want to keep playing, or maybe they didn't want anything out of the game beyond what the demo offered.

GammaGames,
ampersandrew,
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Note what kinds of games populate the Next Fest. Mostly games without any other form of marketing. Anecdotally, I found four demos that interested me, and all four convinced me not to to bother keeping up with the game as it gets closer to release. EEDAR, later absorbed by NPD, the combined entity of which is now known as Circana, works with lots of big developers and publishers and found a correlation with demos losing sales. In later analysis of demos, devs found that you could (a) convince someone to buy the game, (b) convince someone that they don't like the game, (c) give someone everything they wanted from the game, where they don't want to play any more, or (d) give someone everything that they wanted from the game, where they don't need any more than what the demo provides. Note that 3 out of those 4 don't result in a sale. A trailer tended to be much better marketing material. Of course, your mileage may vary if the game's loop or selling point is hard to articulate, but in most cases, seeing someone else have a good time with a game is going to be more likely to convince you to buy a game than if you had a demo where you might not understand its appeal. It's why games are built around how well they present on Twitch these days.

loobkoob,

Factorio's demo absolutely convinced me to buy it.

Demos only really work well if the game is fantastic and able to convey that in a small slice of the game, though.

ampersandrew, w Microsoft Planning Starfield Launch for PS5 | Game Mess Mornings 02/05/24 (also other Microsoft games heading multiplatform)
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Update from Phil Spencer on Twitter:

We're listening and we hear you. We've been planning a business update event for next week, where we look forward to sharing more details with you about our vision for the future of Xbox. Stay tuned.

Veritrax, w Honkai: Star Rail downloads top 100 million

I can believe it, it’s pretty fun and relatively fair for f2p. The new 2.0 update is out tomorrow so it’s a good time to try it out.

key, w After five years in early access, Satisfactory will finally launch into 1.0 later this year
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Awesome. I look forward to finally having a reason to pick up those damn noisy spheres

proper, w Persona 3 Reload Review : Why Persona 3 Reload is the Best Remake of 2024
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i feel like i’ve been seeing a lot of unironic “best of 2024” already and it’s only feb.

Stovetop, w Introducing the Vapor Xbox Wireless Controller Collection: Where Style Meets Victory - Xbox Wire

Remind me of bowling balls.

WanderingPoltergeist, w Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 - Extended Gameplay Reveal
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All the flexibility of Bloodlines 1 is gone, it seems like we are stuck with a single character who could be from just a stingy roster of four clans. It's reported that Phyre's gender can be player chosen, I read an article about it. The writing at least seems interesting, but they only showed a small portion of the opening; The quality of the narrative and dialogue could obviously degrade as a player gets further into it. I'm honestly disappointed that The Chinese Room was even given this game to develop, they didn't seem the type to be able to pull a game of this scale off. Especially with the rich history of this iconic World of Darkness tabletop game! If anything, Larian Studios would've been a better choice. Obsidian Studios (give them an awesome budget and some additional technical help, they'd make a wonderful game too).

I'll naturally withhold full judgement or dismissive disinterest upon reading some reviews from Gaming Sites that I trust.

key, w Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 - Extended Gameplay Reveal
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The guy on the left is one of the few streamers I can immediately recognize. Strange seeing him with “community manager” hat on.

Mereo, w 2K is delisting Spec Ops: The Line over expiring licenses

Sailing the high seas to the rescue!

TwilightVulpine,

Every day that passes piracy is proven even more as the only guarantee any culturally significant work might remain.

GreenAlex, w MSI's new Claw handheld goes head to head with Lenovo and Asus at $700
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I'll admit I'm not super knowledgeable on the space outside of the Deck, but it really feels like most of these things are pushing power without any consideration to usability. You're a PC, you need convenient methods of handling PC input and plenty of input options to handle the number of inputs. Without that or a handheld-friendly mode in Windows, you're probably dead in the water. Props where they're due to the Legion Go on that front for trying something new with its joycon mouse.

Ashyr, w Spec Ops: The Line's sudden removal from Steam baffles its director: 'Why has this happened?'

Super weird. That game is great, just play it on easy and enjoy the ride.

Entropy, w Spec Ops: The Line's sudden removal from Steam baffles its director: 'Why has this happened?'

I hope they figure it out and potentially get it reinstated. It would be a shame for such a good game to be lost to so many people

unexposedhazard, w MSI's new Claw handheld goes head to head with Lenovo and Asus at $700

So its garbage in terms of price/performance ratio then?

thingsiplay,
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I don't know what you mean. It even has a screen. Not an OLED, but at that price point we can't nitpick, right? The only thing I really like on this device are the builtin Hall effect thumbsticks.

ampersandrew, w Dragon Quest Builders coming to PC on February 13
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Did they just forget to bring this game to the biggest platform where they stand to make the most money, or...?

MacedWindow, w So far, Goku and Vegeta alone make up 24 slots of Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero’s roster
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It all depends on the ratio. 24/48 is pretty bad, but 24/150 is a bit more reasonable.

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