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ProfessorFlaw, w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

Yk what? Good, the most memerable games where abt 10-20 hours, celeste, ghostrunner, ac blackflag, these 300 hour games are boring

GunnarRunnar,

I don't personally mind 300 hour games but the way AC and most other games present them is exhausting. I don't want my map full of shit to do. I want to get the core experience, which should be the main story and after that sprinkle of stuff to do here and there which is all optional and there if enjoyed the world enough to keep going.

Why Ubi and others haven't figured this out, I have no idea. It's the best of both worlds.

Saymesies,

Yeah, would much prefer depth of content to breadth. I love exploring and finding things as much as the next completioninst, but if it is just filler, the world feels hollow. Last handful of AC games have been massive maps with very little uniqueness outside the main story. Also hate auto generated fetch quests and mobile game stores they shove in.

tox_solid,
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I remember beating The Bouncer in about an hour and 10 minutes when I was a kid. Not much game to play but I had a lot of fun doing it.

stopthatgirl7,
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Case in point, just compare Mass Effect 1 (about 30 hours) to Mass Effect Andromeda (well over 100 hours).

ZombieBait,

Ghostwire Tokyo felt like a pretty good length for an open world game. There were a bunch of relatively short side quests, and the usual collectibles but the whole thing was 100% complete in under 30 hours. Thier rougelike DLC add-on might push it over that, but it's basically a whole separate game.

Damage,

I had to force myself to finish Andromeda

CIWS-30,

Same, and I didn't even finish Inquisition. Bioware didn't need open world filler injected in its narrative based games and worlds, and those forced elements are what killed them off for a while. Then there was the disaster that was Anthem, which also had big, shallow open world and a craptacular mission design that forced you to a full stop to grind dumb boring shit (at which point I quit) before continuing the not terrible, but barely adequate campaign that I would've probably managed to finish if not for that grind gate.

stopthatgirl7,
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When BioWare announced they had made each planet on Andromeda bigger than the largest area in Inquisition, my stomach sank, because Inquisition had already been pushing it with the bloat.

I watched a review by this YouTuber who hated Andromeda but decided to give it another shot on a whim, only this time to just do the main and loyalty missions, and he said it was like night and day and the game actually was good and the story felt better and like there were actual stakes. All that more for the sake of more hurt the game more than a lot of folks realize.

Gordon_Freeman, w Palworld’s success is partially born from Pokémon fans’ discontent
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

I don't thinks so. It popular because "pokemon with guns" became a viral meme which sucks.

A a discontent pokemon fan myself I would love someone to make a pokemon clone since Game Freak is not really interested in doing good pokemon games anymore. But "Ark Survival Evolved with knockoff pokemon skins instead of dinosaurs" is not what I want

TwilightVulpine,

Pokémon with guns wouldn't have gotten millions of sales on its own. When the trailers came out people were laughing but they weren't exactly eager to play.

Given the persistent popularity of survival crafting games, I think "Ark with knockoff pokemon" is exactly what people wanted. After all, even before this, Pixelmon was one of the most popular Minecraft mods.

Gordon_Freeman,
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Pokémon with guns wouldn't have gotten millions of sales on its own

The day before sold millions (but this one was refunded by millions too) and everybody and their mom knew it was a scam since it was announced like 2 or 3 years ago. Internet is weird, if something becomes viral it will sell, the quality does not matter, people just wants to be in

snooggums,
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As far as I can tell The Day Before was overhyped early and people bought it because of the marketing. Palworld did some advertising, but the mass adoption appears to be mostly word of mouth that the game is actually fun when it was made available in early access.

That matches what I have seen from people commenting and my personal experience as I don't remember hearing about it before and hopped on because of friends recommending it. Palworld is a word of mouth success like Valheim and for similar reasons of competent styling, smooth gameplay, and survival that isn't punishing the player from the moment the game starts.

Gordon_Freeman,
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As far as I can tell The Day Before was overhyped early and people bought it because of the marketing

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDayBefore/comments/lwaach/people_keep_saying_its_a_scam_whats_the_scam/

That's a 3 years old post. Everybody knew it was a scam back then. to the point the studio released "We are not a scam, trust me bro" statements (which made it more obvious it was a scam)

I don't remember hearing about it before

Internet has been talking about "pokemon with guns" for 2 years or so since the developers were already famous because they launched a "Breath of the Wild" knock off (Craftopia) that also sold well (not at the same level of palworld, but for being the first title of a brand new indie studio it sold really well)

snooggums,
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Apparently not everyone knew the day before was a scam or it wouldn't have sold millions of units. Just because some people predicted it does not mean that the general population had any awareness of that expectation.

Gordon_Freeman,
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it wouldn't have sold millions of units

People started to sell their steam accounts that owned the game and keys for the game for hundreds of dollars when it was announced the game was some bad that it was going to be removed from steam

If something is popular it will sell, the quality does not matter. You have the best example in Pokemon itself

TwilightVulpine,

The Day Before did not sell a single million units and Palworld is not getting widely refunded, even though everyone who starts it, dressed like a caveman, immediately realizes they aren't getting to play with guns anytime soon. There were streamers showing this even before the game was out.

It's true that virality is unpredictable and popularity is not a measure of quality, but I think a lot of people are being overly dismissive of the fact that Palworld managed to hook people with something that appealed to them. Not to say it's a bastion of quality and originality, obviously not, but it has something going for it.

ampersandrew,
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Off the top of my head, there's Temtem and Cassette Beasts that try to mimic the formula more closely, and then there are a bunch of "Pokemon but _____" takes on the formula that you can find with a quick Google. This is "Pokemon but <survival game>". Last I heard, Ark didn't let you assign dinosaurs to a factory or have some of the more RPG systems like boss fights, but quite frankly, I found Ark so obtuse that I didn't play for long.

Gordon_Freeman,
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The problem with TemTem is that it's an always online game, if the servers are turned off you won't be able to play, not even the single player campaign so it's a hard pass.

And the art style of both games are not my cup of tea, the do a disservice selling me the game.

ampersandrew,
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I'm a fairweather Pokemon fan at best, but I'm with you on Temtem for the same reason; many people don't have the same reservations as you and I, so I thought I'd mention it. I think Cassette Beasts is that game and reviewed well, and to ignore it might be to ignore exactly the game you're asking for, but I'd also point you toward the "creature collector" tag on Steam. I've never heard of Coromon before doing that search to leave this reply, but mousing over it for a second shows a video that proves they know what they're making (87% positive Steam reviews). Same goes for Nexomon: Extinction (92% positive). No one will know what you're looking for better than you, but people have been making games inspired by Pokemon for a long time now.

Gordon_Freeman,
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No one will know what you're looking for better than you, but people have been making games inspired by Pokemon for a long time now.

A Pokemon clone with high production values made in Japan. Or if it's not made in Japan one that uses it own art style, I simply can't stand the "Fake anime" aesthetic that most indies use, like they learned to draw using this as refference

Think of Shin Megami Tensei (but not SMT V, that one sucks, they removed the dungeon crawling and the puzzles)

shani66,

Cassette Beasts was the true goty last year!

thingsiplay, w Dev Behind Highly Regarded PC Game Explains Why He Raised The Price: "Go Pirate It, I Don't Care"
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While this is not a nice, I don't understand why this is a big deal? And why anyone would pirate the game as a result of this 2 Dollars increase (which in percentage as ~33% increase sounds worse than it is). Others are doing this too, adjust the price after long period of supporting it. And for such a low price and as an indie developer, I think it's only fair. Also for anyone thinking of pirating the game out of principle, rethink it again. Game gets deals over time and at some point it was available for ~4 Euros (which should be more like 3.79 Dollars or whatever it might be).

The game in question is https://store.steampowered.com/app/1846170/Iron_Lung/ BTW. It has Very Positive reviews on Steam and is a horror themed short game. And the dev doesn't even come up with fake excuses or anything like that, it's straight honest about making more money. Which is fair to me! And before anyone accuses me, I am not affiliated with the dev or game, never purchased or received anything; it's the first time I hear about the game. Just mentioning it, because of my positive words defending the price increase. This is a rare situation where I am fine with it.

southsamurai,
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This is exactly how things should be done. If anything, him doing it this way succeeds at making me overrated interested in the game, which isn’t one I’d usually go for. Just because he’s doing it the right way.

TwilightVulpine, w Borderlands company Gearbox buys the rights to beloved indie roguelike Risk of Rain, immediately makes a free-to-play mobile gacha game

Big publishers weaponizing randomization elements in games against the players' wallets. I hate this era of gaming...

Kaldo,
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Opening chests with random magical loot used to be fun when I was a kid, a classic fantasy trope, not a monetization shadow pattern :/

cerement, w Unity say layoffs “likely” as they recover from disastrous pricing plan rollout and look to AI for growth
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“who could’ve seen this coming?”
“everyone. everyone saw this coming.”

Pisodeuorrior,

The CEO should be hanged by the balls, just one disastrous decision after another, what an incompetent moron.

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

The CEO of Unity is the former CEO of E.A., BTW.

Gordon_Freeman,
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And when he was there he said people should pay $1 to reload their weapons on Battlefield

CJOtheReal,

Ah that explains a lot…

ono, w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

Dear CEO,

Games that don’t respect my time are not worth more to me.

Fiivemacs, w Oldest Unity game developer group breaks up over lack of trust in the company

Why wiuld any companies trust them at this point…bail, let unity die and set a precedent to other engines to not fuck with the companies that make the products.

I just wish collectively humanity could do the same for these multi billionaire companies who will kill you to make 10 cents profit.

Rozauhtuno, w Unity doesn't consider Planned Parenthood a charity (but a political groups), won't exempt them from install fees
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How do they keep making the situation worse?

GunnarRunnar,

They hired the right dude for that job.

Thelgor, w Unity introduces new fees for game devs based on revenue and game installs
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Progressing along the enshitification line nicely.

TommySalami, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

Nintendo has historically been slow to change and, more specifically, innovation. They also have been fairly antagonistic when it comes to fan interactions in terms of things like streaming, fan games, and porting old games. On the flip side, they do a pretty decent job with quality control. The “entertainment” field is already pretty bloated with lots of things competing for time. Regardless of success, I’m sure they’ll be trying to squeeze every nostalgia penny they can out of customers.

sim_,

Slow to innovate is an odd claim to sling at Nintendo. But they’re aggressively protective of their IP, absolutely.

TommySalami,

You’re right, I should specify. I’m thinking more in terms of flagship games. Mario has always been big and adaptive over game generations, but there have been a lot of different stretches of time where other major Nintendo games felt miles behind contemporary titles on other platforms, if they were made at all. Recent years have been a lot better, and there have been performance improvements. I guess you could say it is an extension of the IP issue, with titles going through a sort of dark stretch. Starfox, Metroid, and even Legend of Zelda have had that. Innovation was the wrong word to pick.

Tarte, (edited )
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Nintendo has historically been slow to change and, more specifically, innovation.

The company was founded in 1889 and produced physical playing card games. From a historical perspective, I think they had more than their fair share of change and innovation, all things considered.

In recent years, I‘d agree with your statement.

Thelgor, w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance - IGN
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I have never wished for encumbrance in a game that didn't have it. I've only ever wished it was gone from those that do.

sirico,
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James Stephany Sterling

shiveyarbles, w Starfield leaker arrested for felony theft after attempting to sell early copies

The biggest crimes are not murder or stealing from regular people, it’s threatening corporate profits.

brcl,

But corporations are people.

Laws for thee and not for me…

Hadriscus,

Corporations are people ?

Eggyhead, w Star Wars: Dark Forces Remastered – Official Announcement Trailer
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Okay, so every time I decide I'm going to play a retro game through emulation, a remaster is announced, giving me access and an opportunity to enjoy a better version of the game instead. It happened with Metroid Prime, Link's Awakening, Baten Kaitos, Trails from Zero/to Azure, FF pixel remasters, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, and now this I guess... So for the sake of everyone else, what retro games are worth adding to my list?

GeekFTW,
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Look I'm just saying if you have the ability to conjure into our reality remasters and remakes of old games, I'm going to suck your fucking dick if we can get an Illusion of Gaia (snes) remaster sometime soon.

Or ya know whatever the bits may be.

MrSpArkle, w Overwatch 2 director opens up about having the worst-reviewed game on Steam: 'Being review-bombed isn't a fun experience'

Yeah, this is why Jeff Kaplan left. My boy wasn’t gonna fall on this sword.

Infiltrated_ad8271, w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it
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They are scammers who do not comply with the law, these unethical practices are minor things to them.

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