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geosoco, w Resident Evil 4 Remake Will Cost $60 On iPhone

lol

Is there really any other reaction?

PhobosAnomaly,

It’s six months and a week too early for this sort of news.

kaitco, w Resident Evil 4 Remake Will Cost $60 On iPhone

😂 Yeah, no.

Here’s the thing: I’ve been an iPhone user since the 3GS (over 14 years) and I’m highly skeptical that this price will sell. KotOR retails at $10 on the App Store as does San Andreas, and both go on sale down to $5 and lower very often. I believe the whole bundle for Final Fantasy 1-6 is like $65 and then FF7 is $15 or $16. Who is the audience for a $60 iOS game??

I recall when BioShock was originally available on the App Store. For one, it cost like maybe $15 at the most, but then it got pulled from the store and then the App Store made the change to 64-bit apps, meaning that even if you’d bought BioShock previously, it would no longer run on newer devices.

Over this last decade, I’ve watched fun, old school games get released for iOS and then pulled and then re-released as crappier MTX versions, if they got re-released at all, countless times. How is RE4 going to be any different?

Not sure if it’s an Apple issue or a developer issue, but for a $60 price tag, there’s got to be at least some sort of guarantee that an iOS update or App Store change won’t render the game suddenly unplayable on my device. iPhone 15 might be ready for AAA games but the App Store and iOS in general are not.

Monomate,

Indeed, when I spot an apparently good mobile port I’m often hesitant to purchase it because an OS update may break compatibility at any point, and most developers don’t give a damn about updating their games so they stay compatible.

Until they fix this major structural issue, I don’t see premium smartphone gaming taking off. People will only invest their money if they have the confidence they’ll be able to play their game for the foreseeable future.

TORFdot0,

If iOS/MacOS becomes a legitimate gaming platform then that problem solves itself. But the challenge is getting users and retaining them and having them make enough purchases to keep the platform viable meanwhile users want to wait for the platform to be proven to make investments in it, thereby the whole process is a vicious circle of fail.

It would probably take a killer app, and short of buying Nintendo I don’t see how Apple ever breaks that barrier

TORFdot0,

Yeah, we will see how it goes. Apparently one purchase gives you access on all devices running iOS/TVOS/iPadOS/MacOS but even Mac had a bunch of games that used to be available on the Mac App Store that were delisted when MacBooks transitioned to Apple silicon and are no longer available for purchase

kaitco,

The game being available on both iOS and iPadOS should be a given. TVOS also feels like it should be a standard because of the way Apple’s ecosystem works. A MacOS addition is a nice change, but I’m still left wondering about the target audience for this.

If you’re a gamer, your “main” device isn’t usually within Apple’s ecosystem. Most of the Mac people I know who are gamers use consoles, so for them, it would make more sense to buy this for Xbox or PS5 and use either’s virtual play option to play on iPhone if desired. If you’re a PC gamer, the PC Xbox GamePass option is even better. Gaming on MacOS has always been something that you can do if you really want to make it work, but there have usually been better options available.

I’d like to see true mobile gaming take off, but until there is a sense of stability within the mobile space, I just can’t see it. Phones and tablets are different from consoles. I’m not going to carry around my old iPad 2 just to play my 32-bit mobile games, but I still have my original PS1, PS2, and Xbox 360 hooked up to TVs and can jump onto them anytime I’m home. I still play PC games I bought in 2002 on the PC I purchased in 2022. There’s usually some options available to make games designed for Windows XP run well on Windows 10 or 11.

With Apple in particular, there’s never going to be an option to jury-rig an iPhone to play mobile BioShock again, not without jailbreaking which sort of defeats the purpose of having an iPhone in the first place. That sort of thing is acceptable for maybe $10-15, but for the price of a full game, it feels like throwing a bundle of cash back and forth over an open fire and wondering when it will all get singed.

The mobile market has to make a different approach to “proper” gaming because the space itself is far different from console or PC gaming, and the first place to start is the price point.

Shareiff, w Resident Evil 4 Remake Will Cost $60 On iPhone

Hahahahaha

mint, w Resident Evil 4 Remake Will Cost $60 On iPhone

This is being reposted everywhere as news but is super misleading. The $60 price tag gets you the universal app, meaning one purchase lets you play the game on iPhone, iPad, and Mac. It’s still a full game just like the Steam version, and if you look at Resident Evil Village, it will surprisingly run super well on M-series Macs.

The distaste comes from mobile apps rarely being over $10, but if you think of it as bonus mobile access alongside a fully fledged macOS game, suddenly nothing is wrong here.

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  • KirbyProton,

    You only had 1 downvote…!

    verysoft,

    Yeah but that is super offensive!! Seriously, state your opinion and stop caring about votes.

    Ghyste, w Has Unity repaired the damage done by its Runtime Fee plans?

    No.

    notfromhere, w The Talos Principle 2 | Release Date Trailer | Available November 2 | PC | PS5 | XSX/S

    I hope they have a VR version like the first one. Playing it in VR is a whole different experience.

    Blizzard, w The Talos Principle 2 | Release Date Trailer | Available November 2 | PC | PS5 | XSX/S

    So what is it exactly? Looks like a beautiful, open world Portal-concept game.

    Pavidus, w Game prices are too low, says Capcom exec

    You know what, I’ll bite. For this to work though, let’s agree on two things. First, the game they’re selling shouldn’t be a hot pile of garbage on day one. Second, I don’t want to even catch a whiff of microtransactions or subscription based models. If we can nail those down, I would be fine with a price increase. As it stands, the sticker price is just the cost of entry in the vast majority of games. They are still bringing in cash well after the initial purchase.

    XTornado, w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

    Does anybody know if it’s the same cause as when on a car? Like I have yet to get into buying VR but I never get nausea on a car looking at phone inside/outside doesn’t matter. Just trying to see if I might be affected.

    notaviking, w The Talos Principle 2 - The Talos Principle 2 is launching on November 2

    I loved Talos principal, can’t believe after all these years we are getting a second one

    SturgiesYrFase,
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    Super stoked

    Macaroni_ninja, (edited ) w Resident Evil 4 Remake Will Cost $60 On iPhone
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    Why does nobody question the price tag in general? 60 USD for a remake, sounds outrageous, no matter what platform.

    By the way you can buy the game for almost half price on other platforms in digital and physical form as well. They are just taking the piss.

    MomoTimeToDie,

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  • SSUPII,

    But it does, especially since mobile OSes app stores will refuse to install apps barely 2 years old unless babysit via updates.

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  • SSUPII,

    Doesn’t matter. In a few years what will be considered modern will no longer run this game unless the game is updated to just say “yup the game works here too”

    Mobile OSes make breaking the knees of legacy support a sport they are champions at

    520,

    Why does nobody question the price tag in general? 60 USD for a remake, sounds outrageous, no matter what platform.

    Would you expect a discount on a Disney live action remake because it was based on one of their older films?

    Macaroni_ninja,
    @Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

    Would you pay 60 USD for a new streaming service HD version if the Blue ray is available for 30 USD?

    520,

    Depends. Do you have a Blu-ray player?

    Macaroni_ninja,
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    Lets say I’m an average movie enjoyer and I either have a dedicated player or game console with Blue ray capabilities.

    Also for streaming in this analog you require an expensive dedicated device.

    520,

    While we're at it, let's remember that this version allows for portable play that can also be plugged into a TV with nothing more than a cable and Bluetooth controller. Or if you really want to play on a PC setup and have a Mac (hint: if you're in the market for an iPhone 15 Pro, it's likely that you do) you can switch to that at no extra cost.

    You may not pay an extra $30 for that, but plenty of people would consider that reasonable.

    GeekFTW,
    @GeekFTW@kbin.social avatar

    I'd expect a discount on a Disney live action remake because they're horseshit, but that point doesn't answer your question lol.

    Chozo,

    Why does nobody question the price tag in general? 60 USD for a remake, sounds outrageous, no matter what platform.

    Because it's a remake. Meaning, it's been re-made. Not remastered. Not reusing assets. Built from scratch. That costs money. If anything, it cost Capcom even more money than the original did, so it's actually impressive that it costs the same now as it did when the original came out.

    And porting it to Apple's platforms costs even more money, on top of all that.

    By the way you can buy the game for almost half price on other platforms in digital and physical form as well. They are just taking the piss.

    Fat lot of good that does for the people who don't own those platforms.

    metaStatic, w Resident Evil 4 Remake Will Cost $60 On iPhone

    Hahaha. Oh wait you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.

    baatliwala, w Game prices are too low, says Capcom exec

    As long as my country gets regional pricing I don’t care, raise them in the US all you want they have plenty of money.

    madcaesar,

    Right, we’re all millionaires over here. Yup, not living paycheck to paycheck at all! No sir!

    baatliwala,

    And the fun part is, you’ve still had a decades long lifestyle of having low prices by exploiting weak labour laws in poor countries! And if they raise prices by using your local labour you’ll still cry capitalism. Isn’t it fun?

    BudgetBandit, w Resident Evil 4 Remake Will Cost $60 On iPhone

    So basically Apple makes it so you can play the same game on iOS, iPad OS and MacOS, one purchase for $60, play with whatever you want.

    I mean, $60 for a phone game is hard, but for a PC game it’s normal.

    Too bad it’s a remake, but I can see where they are going: become the new standard for mobile gaming, get the hardcore gamers.

    520,

    It's a remake, sure, but it's a fucking good remake. Whether or not you played or have the original, this is worth picking up.

    bouh, w Game prices are too low, says Capcom exec

    It’s funny how it’s “the game’s are not expensive enough” and not “we don’t know how to manage our or money” or “our profit are too high”. Fuck those capitalists.

    Oh the stupid shit head “games are 100 times more expensive to make now” but you sell thousands times more and there no physical media anymore is irrelevant I guess… Assholes…

    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    If they weren’t profitable at the current price they wouldn’t be charging the current price.

    mindbleach,

    And “budgets keep going up!”

    Whose fault is that, guys? Were those numbers placed on you by a witch’s curse? No. You spent $100M on one game, it made $300M, so you spend $200M on the next game. Games didn’t get twice as hard to make, between those decisions. They didn’t require twice as many people or twice as much time. You’re just treating them like a factory where more capital in means more revenue out.

    The original Doom was made in nine months by a team that fits in an elevator. Yeah, it’s simpler than modern games, but they had to make the nearly-unprecedented engine and all their own tools as they went. It’s not like anything’s harder, now. People have basically recreated that seminal title as solo one-week game jam projects. A modern handful of professional computer nerds can pick from a handful of modern high-end toolchains and start banging out content, today.

    If the market for video games only supported six-digit budgets - there would still be video games. Big ones, fancy ones, creative ones, whatever. Would they be the spectacles that currently get advertised to death? Nope. But they also wouldn’t produce as many unstable bug-fests as those sprawling mega-projects. Nor would they be announced in 1999, previewed in 2006, delayed in 2017, and launched to middling reviews in 2025.

    Studios that aren’t injected with obscene capital and forced to deliver “AAA” money-trees tend to shoot their shot and move on to the next game. That’s how they survived and grew as plucky little private affairs, before some publishers swallowed them whole and turned them into a sequel factory for their breakout hit.

    If your games cost too much money to fail, stop giving them more money.

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