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Tunawithshoes, w Todd Howard says Starfield was 'made to be played for a long time,' but a month after launch I'm already drifting away

While I enjoyed my time I really struggling to find what I feel like I would different on a new playthrough making me worried about longevity of this game.

It really feels like unless bethesda (unlikely) or moders could do something drastic I would not return. Just pick the game back up and do the new thing.

Feels not enough to do by only stick to space. Not enough ammo to not use a variety of weapon. Nor that much other ways to deal with combat that it would warrant a new play through.

Grumpy,

I only played like 15hrs of vanilla Skyrim. But played like 1000+ hrs of modded Skyrim. I’ve now played about 30hrs of starfield. If the modding scene gets as big as Skyrim, I think it would have merit in longevity.

wildginger,

So, what, bethesda games are now just fancy Little Big Planet sandboxes? Where the main game is just something to keep you busy until the real content creators arive?

Tunawithshoes,

Honestly feels like that.

They given many things in the base game fells like that they where more showcase.

Here is background it exists we barely doing anything with it but maybe you find it useful.

Here is new game plus it erases the whole world so if you want to reset world.

Here is enormous skybox. We have no reason why you can fly across the star system but tons of space for you.

Tunawithshoes,

Oh definitely the modding is going to carry. But what point I tried to make is I will need something big for me to consider a new playthrough. Not just adding in bunch of mods to existed save file.

Unlike Skyrim where I felt start over for mods I could actually feel like I had choice and it kinda made a difference in play style to be a mage or a knight.

Quentinp, w Todd Howard says Starfield was 'made to be played for a long time,' but a month after launch I'm already drifting away
@Quentinp@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m content with my ~120 hours played so far even if I don’t play again. But I probably will, especially with mods or future content. It doesn’t quite have the build flexibility of an elder scrolls game though. Hopefully they’ll add more variants to the bases etc. Generally happy if a game has 40 hours of gameplay and there’s easily 40 hours of content in Starfield.

The NG+ stuff is interesting but after playing it a bunch it’s both a plus and a minus, like it’s neat to have the options there, but also might’ve been better to start actual new characters.

9715698,

Yeah I have been pretty addicted since release – getting a month’s enjoyment out of a game (in my case, 50hrs, but I’m still going back), is good value for money.

There are too many great games, especially this year, to spend all my time only playing one.

Bimbus, w CDPR dev defends Starfield amid criticisms that its character animations don't match up to Cyberpunk 2077

Neither of them look as good as BG3 IMO. Both feel so static / emotionlessl

prograhammingdev,

BG3 is incredible, but I think Cyberpunk ties with that in many scenes (though there’s much fewer sets of dialog). The rigidity of the dialog in Starfield is one of my biggest complaints, and that’s coming from someone who really quite enjoys the game despite the many, MANY, things it could do better.

Dettweiler42,

Bethesda’s formula is pretty dated. They changed up a few things for Starfield, but it’s still same the old dialog system.

vaultdweller013,

Still an improvement on Fallout 4, atleast my character aint yapping.

glimse,

I don’t usually dig into behind the scenes stuff in games but I’ve been watching a ton of bg3’s stuff. I didn’t realize how integral to the development some of the actors were - specifically Neil Newborn, Astarion’s actor. Larian seems like a cool company to work with…it feels like they really “get” it.

BrowseMan,

Would you have a link to these? I’m curious how Neil influenced the game.

glimse,

I’m sorry but I don’t remember exactly where I heard it. It might have been Dan Allan’s channel, he interviews voice actors

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Good Jesus. You’re delusional if you think a 10 second loop amounts to good animation. The facial animations alone are so bad.

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I love BG3 and I have nothing against it’s animations. But what is it that you like? Honestly, I see a lot of people praise the animations, but besides a few scenes, the animations just seem “good”. Not mind blowing, but not bad in any way. So I don’t get that praise, but I’m sure there’s something that other people see in it that I don’t.

That being said the game is great. I haven’t had this much fun since KotOR.

vaultdweller013,

For a CRPG their fucking great, also I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of that praise is coming from folks who play CRPGs on the norm. When your standard frame of reference is fucking Arcanum it tends to be a bit scewed. Also play Arcanum: of steamworks and magick obscura its really fucking good.

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s a good point.

vaultdweller013,

Of course I made a good point, Ive got Pelinal Whitestake about to strangle someone do to dragussy as a profile picture.

mindbleach, w Xbox Series X/S players feel forgotten by Rockstar after Red Dead Redemption 60fps PS5 port

Consoles don’t exist anymore. It’s blue computer versus green computer, fueled entirely by bribes.

1984, w Modern Warships — PC Release Trailer
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

This looks pretty bad to be honest.

Rampsquatch,

I bet you’re right, they didn’t show any gameplay in that video at all.

AdrianTheFrog, (edited ) w CD Projekt employees form a union
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

That’s great, I hear CD Projekt has some real problems with overworking their employees.

Edit: (right before cyberpunk released)

Employees at CD Projekt Red, the Polish studio behind the game, have reportedly been required to work long hours, including six-day weeks, for more than a year.

filister, w Twitter sleuths suggest a new Steam Deck is on its way, but any updates are likely to be for Valve's benefit not ours

It is about time for them to start producing some GPUs and break the monopoly of AMD and NVIDIA.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Nah, Intel is already doing that. Valve getting into graphics cards would be a colossal mistake. That’s not in their wheelhouse at all.

Chailles,
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, but let’s be real here, it would totally be just like Valve to make a GPU and somehow be like one of the best ones at the time and never make another one again.

Attchaster,

Yeah. Doing software is hard, doing household hardware is harder, but doing GPU-class chips? No fucking way at all.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yup, Intel is struggling to enter the market, and they’ve been building similar chips for years. This just isn’t an area for someone like Valve to break into.

Maybe they could make a good cooler design or something, but they’re going to be using off the shelf chips, or maybe slightly altered custom chips like they did with the Steam Deck.

Yawnder, w Todd Howard says Starfield was 'made to be played for a long time,' but a month after launch I'm already drifting away

I totally agree. Half the content is mostly irrelevant. The outpost system is useless, the crafting system is unnecessary, the ship building is unnecessary, etc…

7112, w has cyberpunk's combat been rehauled to be me more like the combat rebalanced mod

Still takes like 20 headshots to down someone. It gets a little better mid-late game. It was brutal playing 2.0 before the Headshot damage mod was updated.

However, I noticed that blades seemed a bit buffed. I was able to melee super easy early on.

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Still takes like 20 headshots to down someone.

I think this is largely dependent on build and weapon. I’ve been playing a stealth / throwing character and throwing knives kill almost anyone with a single headshot, as do revolvers. If I try to use an assault rifle, though, I can empty a clip into someone’s face and they’re still standing.

7112,

I had a reflex build but ended up using shotguns since assault damage was so bad. Maybe it’s just the weapon type.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

thats such a shame, i wish cdpr just allowed a new difficultly that was exsctly the same as the combat rebalanced mod

willya, w Shell called out for promoting fossil fuels to youth via Fortnite game
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

Do most of these kids parents not go to the gas station 1-2 times a week? Last I checked the pumps are always still loaded with people. I highly doubt a fucking shell sweepstakes in Fortnite is causing harm.

spacecowboy,

Do we really need to explain why an oil company trying to cozy up to the younger generation is a bad thing? Really…?

Chozo,

Apparently so.

willya,
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

No but thinking this is somehow indoctrinating kids is hilarious.

my_hat_stinks,

Okay, so what are they trying to do then?

Sethayy,

Then describe the innocent reason for adding a gas company in a video game? Like it doesn’t fit in universe at all, but arguably does have an indoctrining effect

Albbi,

Then why do you think Shell prompted these streams?

sugar_in_your_tea,

So they’d tell their parents to fill up at Shell instead of Chevron or whatever. It’s not like kids are going to want more fossil fuels, they’ll just want to shop at the cool brand instead of the less cool brand.

zaph,

Lmfao

navi,
@navi@lemmy.tespia.org avatar

Lots of them plug in at home and never have to go to a shitty, ad filled, long as line, price gauged pump again 😎

willya,
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

I’m one of those people, but sitting here acting like the majority of the country is doing that just shows that people are living in a bubble.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, I’m a parent and I take my kids with me to the gas pump quite often. We shop at Costco and fill up before or after. I honestly don’t see an issue at all, my kids know gas pollutes (I tell them frequently even though they’re in elementary school), and they know why I continue to buy gas (EVs are too expensive, inconvenient for longer trips, and have a fire hazard).

So no, I don’t have a problem with fossil fuels being a thing in games. I do have a problem with advertisements in games generally, and ads marketed to kids specifically. So if this was an ad for a socially acceptable business (take your pick), I’d still be opposed. Keep that nonsense away from my kids.

can,

I’m so thankful pumps don’t play ads where I’m from.

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

Then you are so naive that it´s almost unbelievable.

MomoTimeToDie,

1-2 times a week? Are these people just doing fucking burnouts in a 1970 truck or something every day?

Kolgeirr,

For a second there I felt called out, but my gas guzzling burnout truck is from the 90s 👍

gusgalarnyk, w Why CCP haven't stopped trying to make an EVE Online shooter for 15 years

Excited to see more FPS offerings.

Naatan, w CD Projekt Spent Roughly $125 Million Turning Cyberpunk 2077 Around Post-Launch

CD Projekt announced on October 5 that the expansion starring Idris Elba cost a hefty 275 million Polish Zloty (around $62.7 million) to develop and approximately 95 million Polish Zloty (around $21.6 million) to market.

I’m not saying repairing and adding missing functionality isn’t a good size portion of that cost, but calling it a $125 million cost based on the cost of the expansion and marketing which were already planned regardless of how well the initial release did is miss-leading at best.

TheAndrewBrown,

Yeah this headline should really just say the ~$41m they actually spent improving the game because that’s still an incredibly impressive number (2/3 the amount of a full expansion). I hate when there’s a good story to tell but they want to make it look even better so they decide to mislead instead of just saying the actually impressive thing

runswithjedi, w Twitter sleuths suggest a new Steam Deck is on its way, but any updates are likely to be for Valve's benefit not ours

I just want better battery life, a larger and more colorful screen, cooler temps, and higher FPS in a smaller device. Is that so hard to ask?

GenericUsername28,

That’s a lot of things

kautau,

That’s the joke I think

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sure they’re waiting for the price tag of a device with the features you describe to be more in line with current steam deck prices before doing that. They probably don’t want to annoy early adopters either.

dudewitbow,

Thats the main goal imo. Theyre not teying to compete with the high end devices, all of them will likely download steam and give Valve money anyways. Valve always targets on expanding the market, with vr and such. The Steam Deck exists to expand the market to budget pc console like gaming, and it would not make sense to replace it now.

Valve I dont believe sees it like a cellphone where theyre trying to make more money by doing yearly releases. They arent a hardware company fundamentally. They only develop hardware as a means to expand market, not to make profit directly off of.

Its why virtually none of their hardware projects are bog standard, be it steam machine/deck(Linux market), index/vive (VR), Controller (touchpad, HD Rumble), Link(local streaming) as each project was designed to introduce pc gaming to a new market, or expand pc gaming by adding new features

ryathal,

Steam machine and steam deck are about showing Microsoft there’s a viable market for Valve outside windows.

Phen,

Valve is also a privately owned company, meaning that every decision they make will always affect Gabe, and not someone different every week like most other companies. Valve needs to think long term while their competitors need immediate effects.

weirdo_from_space, w Why Building Your Own PC Is Still a Smart Move in 2023 | Toms Hardware

If youcre building for gaming, personally I’d advise aganist building a high end PC however.

Most AAA releases suck. Buggy, broken, soulless, rushed. There is no point in chasing high end hardware that can run them.

The pre-built I’ve ordered will come with an AMD 5600G APU, sufficent for most if not all indie releases.

catharticrespite,

After building a PC for the first time a few years ago, I’ll never buy a pre-built desktop again (low or high end)

The amount of corners they cut and terrible design decisions they make just so you can’t reuse the parts elsewhere are not only criminal from a consumer perspective, but an environmental one as well

PorkTaco,

Love watching GamersNexus pre-built pc reviews. Check it out if you haven’t. Confirms everything you just said.

weirdo_from_space,

I’ve got mine through an online wizard of sorts, so I have picked almost all of the parts. And I understand your point of view but this is all I can afford at the moment, I didn’t want to try to build my own PC for the first time and somehow screw it up.

catharticrespite,

I get your concern, I was extremely worried my first time. It’s a lot easier than you might expect though

Still, it’s your money and your comfort. If it’s worth the extra money for a pre-built to save you peace of mind, by all means do as you will

PorkTaco,

I’ve found being a patient gamer really pays off. I have a relatively powerful machine but I don’t generally play any games that haven’t been out for several months to a year. By then they usually work, in my experience, pretty flawlessly. Anything I’m interested in anyway. Which are pretty exclusively single-player story-driven games.

weirdo_from_space,

Fair enough, but not all of those games’ problems are technical. A lot of them just either fundamentally suck, or are technically well built but don’t offer anything truly interesting.

I understand this is subjective; but why would I want to play Ghost of Tsushima when I could be playing Hades, Hotline Miami or Undertale?

PorkTaco,

Oh no for sure I love a good indie game too. It’s just that if the ONLY reason someone would stay away from AAA games are due to the initial bugs and whatnot then they should try coming back after they’re fixed up a bit. But absolutely nothing wrong with not being interested and just rocking out some indie games.

Bobert, w Why Building Your Own PC Is Still a Smart Move in 2023 | Toms Hardware
@Bobert@sh.itjust.works avatar

My desktop has a Sapphire RX 480 with 8 GB of VRAM and plug and play replaceable fans. I paid $260 for it at the end of 2016. For what that card was capable of (fuck, still is capable of) for us to be at 8 GB 4060s and 7600s is disgusting. I mean three years prior to that I paid $299 for a fucking 7950 with 3 GB of VRAM.

If you wanna buy a pre-built, get a laptop instead. I laid this out in another comment on the subject. $100 each for RAM, PSU, Storage. $200 2k 165hz monitor. $300 CPU, $300 GPU. Not a bad rig? Add $200 for portability and you have a $1300 gaming laptop with a 5800x and 6700xt. $200 to be able to easily carry it with you is definitely worth it. Cause if you want a SFF desktop for portability you’re gonna struggle to get it done for the same price point.

Could I have thrown down $2k instead of $1.3k to get a stronger desktop? You bet, but it’d be sitting in the corner used as much as my desktop is now because it’s just not convenient for me at this stage in my life. The device I can carry with me to work, my living room, my bedroom, and everywhere in between is the device I’m going to use. I’d much rather it be a laptop than just my phone.

fatboy93,

Upvoted because i love the breakdown on this comment.

I got an Asus rog g15 amd advantage edition for about $1700 incl tax in India, and it has all the things you mentioned and a 6800M GPU.

The thing has a really great battery life for a gaming notebook and i can get so much stuff done as well on it for my side gig.y only complaint about it is the fan, which can get really loud, but Im fine with the tradeoff.

I also daily drive a macbook m1 pro courtesy of the office and I equally love it.

Other than the GPU market, most of the PC components are relatively cheap compared to yesteryears.

Bobert,
@Bobert@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s the exact laptop I’m talking about. Caught mine on a deal for like $1300 before taxes.

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