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Darkard, w Bethesda's Pete Hines Calls Out Former Blizzard WoW Team Lead Over 'Rushed' Starfield Start Screen Comments

It’s looks like almost any video game ever. Menu, space in the top right for marketing.

Some games put something more visual in the middle. But why does it matter. After playing BG3 for a while I’m just mashing the continue button as soon as it comes up.

hughperman,

any video game ever

In the last 10ish years, more like.

atlasraven31, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

But it doesn’t have to be a once in a decade thing. We can drop a great RPG or even a good shooter every couple years.

nyctre,

I meant … it’s not. There have been 3 larian games in the last 9 years, and all 3 have been great. And they’re not the only good games or RPGs. So the title is just the usual click bait crap

atlasraven31,

I played Divine Divinity some when it was released. It was interesting but clunky. It was no Neverwinter Nights.

I want to see us as gamers get away from sequelitis and get full games again without lock boxes or cash shops or battle passes. The excitement of Doom or Battlefield 2 or Elden Ring.

verysoft,

Wont happen. Average consumer consumes without thought for the larger picture, theres a reason we got to this point, people are suckers and buy it all, the most recent trap they willingly jump into is "pre order for X days early access", I will never understand.

atlasraven31,

Some games like Factorio and BattleBit are worth buying in early access

verysoft,

Early access as in still in development, sure some are, but that is not what I was talking about. It's preorder our finished game (and/or buy a 'deluxe' edition) and get the game 'early' before its release date. Reality is, its just a delayed release for smarter consumers.

Lojcs,

And that’s bad, how? If other people were able to play it early you know it wasn’t finished the day before release and can read reviews before buying.

verysoft,

How is that not bad? It's preying on people to soak up more money. If you cant understand the difference between buying a game in development vs spending extra to play a game a few days early, then the sun might as well be the moon.
I wouldnt recommend buying games in early access either, especially if they are not discounted. If done properly theres no malice in a company asking for funds as you join the development process of a game. Whereas asking for more money to simply play a game 3 days before its official release with no other differences to the game is just predatory, abusing people excitement and hype to squeeze every last penny out where they can. Keep in mind its the multimillion or multibillion dollar companies pulling this, not your indie studios who are the ones who usually use the in dev early access program.

Lojcs,

If you cant understand the difference between buying a game in development

I didn’t say anything about development.

If people want to spend money to play a game early that’s their choice. Just because it’s not something you wouldn’t do doesn’t mean it has no value to anyone. If anything it provides value to the people who aren’t going to buy the game blind on release date (unless the company postpones the release date to make room for early access I guess). Plus the dev has a chance to find and fix bugs before most people start playing.

Also is there a specific game you’re talking about? I’ve only seen games get more expensive after early access, not less.

verysoft,

I imagine the term Early Access is causing confusion here.

I am not talking about the Steam Early Access program, where developers can get some early funding of their game and community feedback on the game during development. I have no issue with this program if it used correctly, which it is mostly. Games generally do get more expensive when leaving yes, as most developers recognise that charging people full price for an unfinished game is unfair.

What I was referring to is different, the early access I am referring to is a recent marketing strategy, generally used to make people spend more money on 'deluxe' editions of video games.
The most recent example would be Starfield, Bethesda are offering a 'Premium Edition' which costs almost 50% more than the base game, it contains some art and soundtrack along with some skins (I won't rant about that right now, but come on...), but it's main selling point being the '5 days early access' to the game. The game releases officially on 6th September, but if you purchase this 'Premium Edition' you can play the game on the 1st September instead.
This is what I have issue with and it is a horrible new practice that many of these multi-billion dollar companies are pulling to try and get more money from people. I understand it's ultimately the choice of the consumer to buy this, but it is preying on their hype and excitement for a game to make them fork over more money that they otherwise would not do.

It's sad to see. Games used to just have a standard price, you paid it got a full game and off you went, now there's all these special editions with extra bullshit attached in an attempt to milk consumers. You should absolutely be against these practices.

srecko,

New harry potter is one example, where if you had deluxe version, you could play the game 3 days before the official release.

Bluescluestoothpaste,

I think they meant DOS 1 & 2

Kotking, w Old School RuneScape's poll for new sailing skill
@Kotking@mastodon.social avatar

@nanoUFO Hmm hope it passes, didn't play recently but I wouldn't mind sailing.

Call_Me_Maple, w Jeff Grubb on Success of Hi-Fi Rush 3M players Xbox: "Microsoft is very very very happy with that studio, they like that studio a lot...."
@Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world avatar

I said it one Reddit and I’ll say it here.

All I want out of Hi-Fi Rush now is a sequel, an adult animated series, and a Hibiki snap-back. And maybe some figures of the cast. Hi-Fi Rush was a damn good game, it’d be a shame if we didn’t get more out of it.

Jamie, w Bethesda's Pete Hines Calls Out Former Blizzard WoW Team Lead Over 'Rushed' Starfield Start Screen Comments
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It just looks like every other Bethesda start screen.

vaultdweller013,

That aint a bad thing, their start screens are simple but functional. Why put too much effort into it when 80 percent of the time it wont even be active for more than 5 seconds. Make it look nice but dont go overboard.

GrayBackgroundMusic, w Bethesda's Pete Hines Calls Out Former Blizzard WoW Team Lead Over 'Rushed' Starfield Start Screen Comments

Never, ever take Grummz (former blizz dev who made the comment) seriously. He is a complete garbage can of a human.

18+ naz_arrete, w The wait between major video game sequels is getting longer
@naz_arrete@shelter.moe avatar

@nanoUFO more time better game

Guntrigger, w Bethesda's Pete Hines Calls Out Former Blizzard WoW Team Lead Over 'Rushed' Starfield Start Screen Comments

It looks good. Reminds me of Halo start screens. I wonder if there’s a rousing orchestral accompaniment.

comedy, w 'A triumph': Brian Fargo, Mike Laidlaw, and other RPG architects weigh in on Baldur's Gate 3
@comedy@kbin.social avatar

Don’t get me wrong - I’m absolutely happy that this game is doing well, that people love it, that it isn’t exploitative, etc. those are all great things.

But do we need a daily article essentially restating the same thing?

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

Yes! Articles about popularity should always be as populous as the popular pop culture topic.

Pop.

EthicalDogMeat, w Old School RuneScape's poll for new sailing skill

I haven’t played for years but I enjoy the memes and YouTube content. Sailing would mean more content to watch so I hope it passes

tallwookie, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
@tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

because it’s a good game, or because they didnt go the DLC route?

Kichae,

Because they sold a whole bunch of copies.

utopianrevolt,

all of the above

sugar_in_your_tea,

It turns out, if you make a good game, it’ll probably sell well.

shrugal,

Yes

people_are_cute,
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Because people don’t currently have many options among new games.

JoMiran, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I hope this inspires people to check out Larian’s Divinity: Original Sin series.

Dagrothus,

Divinity 2 has better combat than bg3

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

Well that's depressing because DOS2 has shitty combat

verysoft,

DOS2 combat allowed you to do goofy stuff and was fun casting spells. BG3 is more 1 turn 1 action and much slower and methodical, I mean makes sense, it is DnD afterall, it's designed for tabletop.

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

It’s sort of DnD. Solasta offers much more authentic 5e combat (especially with mods) but has much weaker stories, awful faces, and bad voice acting.

Dagrothus,

Yeah I mean I thought divinity combat was fun. I could make massive plays to freeze everyone, create all sorts of elemental clouds and surfaces, group enemies up with teleports, etc. Some combos were definitely OP but that’s what makes it fun + you could ramp up difficulty with mods and such. You could also cast spells for fun or teleport just to get around the map without having to long rest. Baldur’s gate is much slower paced and playing with the elements like that seems way less viable.

MarcomachtKuchen,

I really liked the combat of DOS2. All the interactions between spells were a lot of fun. The only Thing i disliked is, how ineffetive movement felt. Either you had an attack which included movement, or you didnt wanna move

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

What interaction? The constant everything blows up damaging everyone while healing sucks? Stunning yourself because your standing in blood that glitched under ground? Spells that don't work on the slightest change in the z-axis?

MarcomachtKuchen,

All the interactions between conditions. How wet is the condition to Support shock aswell as frost. How the Rangers First Aid is the only way to remove knockdown. How Charmed kann be removed by clear mind, but not by magic armor. How most geomancer spells create explosive surfaces to synergise with pyro. How you can usw dragons breath to clear Ice so your Charakter wont slip

Itsamelemmy,

I picked up DOS1 EE and DOS2. Playing 1 when I don’t have access to my desktop as my laptop isn’t capable of running BG3. Still in the first town, but so far I’m enjoying Divinity as well.

Zeus, w The wait between major video game sequels is getting longer

i would like to say "good, it means more time for a polished game and hopefully less developer crunch"; but from the article's chart i can't see much of a trend at alla chart (missing the labels unfortunately) showing absolutely no increasing trend in time between releases

qooqie, w Old School RuneScape's poll for new sailing skill

You fuckers better vote yes this shit cool af

Secret300, w Killer Bean - Official Game Trailer

“This is a third person, roguelike shooter. Every time you start a new single player campaign, everything changes. The locations change, the missions change, the characters change, the bosses change, and most of all, the story changes. Characters who you trusted before, may turn against you. Enemies who tried to kill you, may end up helping you. Simple missions can turn into deadly traps. No two campaigns are the same.”

If they pull that off cleanly this game will actually be so amazing

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