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li10, w Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me

In comparison to BG3, the dialogue and stories are incredibly bland in Starfield.

If you don’t compare it to BG3 though, then the dialogue and stories are still incredibly bland.

I swear every Bethesda game does this. For example, when you get three dialogue options, they all say basically the same thing, and they all set up the player to be dunked on by the NPCs response…

Or the only options are:

“wow! Incredible! I love kittens, good on ya kid!”

Or

“You don’t wanna mess with me, I’ll kill you.”

Kolanaki,
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At least the stories were pretty good for the most part. Starfield’s story and lore are just so generic and boring, and the dialogue ranges from corny to just flatout awful. Even compared to previous Bethesda games, the story elements in Starfield are a yawn fest that feel like they were written by history majors and not people who love science fiction.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

BG3 has very bad writing as well.

alekks09,

Can you elaborate more on this a tad more?

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Very short responses.

Very little dialog depth.

Pretty bad story.

It’s very clear of the rewrites after Chris A. was ejected.

CluckN, w Only Up, one of 2023's biggest Twitch games has been removed from Steam, due to developer's stress

Reminds me of when the Flappy Bird dev removed his game for similar reasons. At least they made a boatload of money.

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

The game’s Only Up. Seriously, fuck these clickbait titles.


To all the OPs out there: You don’t have to copy the title verbatim, you can make it easier for your fellow Lemmings by making it less clickbait.

Amir, w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance - IGN
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

“Add to Wares” and “Send to Camp” make encumbrance a non-issue on BG3

Perfide, (edited ) w Baldur's Gate 3 on PS5 is effectively the PC version at ultra settings

I don’t get all the performance complaints about Act 3. The worst lag I ever had in the entire game was the first time I walked into the druid grove, dropped to 1-5fps for like 20 seconds and then it was more or less fine the rest of the game. One crash in 160 hours of playing, and I’m still on patch 0.2 atm.

BruceTwarzen,

Wait did you play like 5 hours a day or is that the beta?

Perfide,

That is the full release only. It’s also less than accurate to say 5 hours a day everyday, it was more like 10-15 hours a day with some days where I didn’t play at all.

GBU_28, w Trouble running Starfield? Todd Howard says 'Upgrade your PC'

Y’all are surprised the boss of a AAA studio suggested you buy hardware from companies he has a deeply vested interest in?

It’s all one big circle jerk of companies and anyone buying “cutting edge” gets what they deserve.

You’re the product in more ways than one

Zeppo,
@Zeppo@sh.itjust.works avatar

You’re literally the consumer in this instance. The game is the product. The computer is the product.

nyakojiru, w NVIDIA DLSS 3.5 | New Ray Reconstruction Enhances Ray Tracing with AI
@nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

How is the guy from Abba doing hardware promotion videos?

exohuman, w Only Up, one of 2023's biggest Twitch games has been removed from Steam, due to developer's stress
@exohuman@programming.dev avatar

I wonder why he removed it instead of just leaving it there as is and not updating it anymore.

jws_shadotak, w Only Up, one of 2023's biggest Twitch games has been removed from Steam, due to developer's stress

The game is Only Up, which is like a 3D version of Getting Over It.

WarmSoda, w Star Trek: Infinite - Game Features and Pre-Purchase Bonus

Oh shit this is an official DLC? Nice

inclementimmigrant, w Baldur's Gate 3's success is not about setting a new "standard"

I mean it should and they didn’t set a new standard, they just brought back a old standard of having a developer and publisher actually giving a fuck about making a good, complete game.

vasametropolis, (edited )

This is the perspective that is totally forgotten and missed by most engaging in the discussion. Not to diminish Larian’s achievement, but they literally busted out the old playbook. Credit where it’s due, but BG3 shouldn’t be controversial - it should be the standard because that’s what the standard used to be.

Sylvartas, (edited )

That’s what the standard used to be, because it used to be much cheaper to satisfy. For indies, if you try to do a quarter of what Larian achieved there in production value, and your game doesn’t sell, your studio is dead. For AAA, you’ll have to fight execs/management endlessly trying to shoehorn microtransactions and/or dlc to “justify” the costs.

I’d love it to be the new standard, but this only happened because Larian is basically a huge indie imo. Which unfortunately is an anomaly.

JokeDeity, w Triple Jump: A platformer multi-cartridge for the NES - Announcement Trailer

Micro Mages looks fun as hell.

smallaubergine,

Micro Mages is great. I haven't played it on an original SNES but I have it loaded on my modded Wii outputting a 240p signal to a Sony trinitron. It looks and plays great.

candyman337, w New mystery Valve hardware device certified in South Korea

YES. I’VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG

GOD YES

MentalEdge, w Ghostrunner 2 Preview - More Ghost and More Running
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Ghostrunner was fantastic. Cathartic AF movement. Glad to get more.

paddirn, w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance - IGN

In TTRPGs encumbrance seems to be the #1 rule that players conveniently forget about and GMs only ever seem to bring up when they want to fuck with the players. It’s probably one of the more annoying, unexciting aspects of TTRPGs to keep track of. I like the approach that BG3 has taken, you essentially have an unlimited Camp inventory, but your personal inventory is limited. Is it realistic? No, absolutely not, but neither are Bags of Holding, which are basically a GM’s way of throwing up their hands to say, “Fuck it, I’m not dealing with this shit anymore.”

conciselyverbose,

I'd guess less because they think it's any kind of better to allow unlimited inventory than it is because manually tracking it on paper is tedious.

It's not the same issue with a computer.

geosoco,

Absolutely, but video game designers actually amplify the issue by making so much useless shit able to be picked up and adding so many mechanics into a game, where as TTRPGs are often more focused. Starfield (or any bethesda game really) has hundreds of useless items that people can sell, random loot drops, and resources for multiple forms of crafting. It's a fantasy future where we could just let folks "teleport" to a private satellite storage facility or something similar to a bag of holding. Instead we just make gamers focus on inventory management which I doubt anyone finds "fun".

I think there's a delicate balance and I don't think we've hit it. I would love to see some data about how much time people spend doing inventory maintenance in the course of common RPGs. It's one of those modern things like making expansive worlds without fast travel that just feels unnecessary.

cyanarchy,

It’s really not any different from the mechanic as it’s been used in previous Bethesda titles. The soft limit of depleting my oxygen meter rather than hobbling my speed is a little more forgiving, particularly if I’m still picking through a free fire zone.

And once I learned that I could sell to stores directly from my ship hold, my problems kinda dried up. It’s mostly learning what things in the field are worth hauling back to town when it’s not the apocalypse and duct tape just isn’t that special.

geosoco,

Absolutely, but you still have to learn that and it's still work. Early on I had no idea how many credits "a lot". Their defense/damage system is arguably unnecessarily complex in a way that adds to this. Do I need more corrosion protection, radiation, airborne, or thermal? Does it even matter?

Even with some of the advances, it still like an artificial problem that doesn't actually make the game any better. It doesn't really add any difficulty or challenge, and it's certainly not "fun". There's still a lot of streamlining they could do.

Chailles,
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

You have no idea how long I kept rope in my inventory in BG3 thinking it’d actually be of use one day.

bouh,

It depends. There’s a fine line between managing logistic and soreadsheet grade chores. Managing logistic can be interesting and it can bring a lot to the game. But if it is merely checking boxes and numbers on a spreadsheet it’s a chore that’s better left out of the game.

Anticorp,

Zelda has a good system for this. You need to decide which weapons, shields, and bows you keep, but you have otherwise unlimited storage. It adds a degree of realism and management, without negatively impacting the gameplay.

Eramidik, w Resistor is an incredibly ambitious CaRPG that's Burnout meets Mass Effect

Great concept. I’m surprised nobody’s attempted something similar with the Speed Racer franchise.

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