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helenslunch, do games w God of War Ragnarök - PC Launch Trailer
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

All PS games are DoA (to me) due to mandatory (completely pointless) PSN linking.

ChocoboRocket,

I’ve had my PS4 pro for years and never had paid PSN, is it required for PS5?

Or just for online play, which I do not care for

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

This is the PC release.

ChocoboRocket,

Fair enough, I assumed you gamed on both and stopped for PS5 because they made PSN mandatory and I somehow was unaware.

Can’t justify a gaming PC when PS4 pro was pretty cheap and my gaming hours are not what they used to be

I can justify a not so new console every 5 or so years as they hit my value for money sweet spot, and reduced gaming hours due to life

But the upfront cost for a decent rig to replace consoles entirely is not what I want to use my money for (for now!)

Can’t wait to finally make the jump though!

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Can’t justify a gaming PC when PS4 pro was pretty cheap

The console itself is cheap, sure. But the games are much more expensive, and the monthly subscription will add up over time. Although if you’re only playing single player, that may not be an issue. I’d be surprised if you can even get past the boot screen on a PS5 without being connected to the internet and logged in.

Can’t wait to finally make the jump though!

It’s never been cheaper or easier to make the transition with the Steam Deck!

emeralddawn45,

Somebody else also said it but the steam deck is amazing. Mid level pc performance that can handle almost all new games, and you can use a dock and have it set up just like a console. I use mine all yhe time with bluetooth ps4 controllers. Much bigger games library+being able to emulate so many older consoles makes it a no brainer i think.

MeatsOfRage, (edited )

PSN account is free, you probably already have one if you owned one of the last 3 PlayStation consoles. There are paid add-ons if you want the multiplayer or the gamepass like subscription.

Edit

What’s with all the downvotes, it’s literally an answer to the question. You fellas mad I didn’t editorialize the information with personal opinions?

BadlyDrawnRhino,
@BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone avatar

They’re referring to Sony’s stance that all their PC releases should require you to have and sign-in to a PSN account. That’s separate to PS+, you don’t need to pay a sub.

A lot of publishers include this requirement on their PC releases, regardless of whether they’re single-player or multiplayer, and I think a lot of people are fed up with having to have so many different accounts.

darthelmet,

Even for the single player games?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Starting with this one, it’s a requirement on PC, yes. Hopefully they do away with it due to lost sales, but they’re still at least pretending that they’re somehow going to convert PC players into console players.

BadlyDrawnRhino,
@BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone avatar

I don’t think that’s their goal at all. Otherwise we wouldn’t see any sequels released on PC, that would be a much better strategy for converting players to console. The only reason publishers require their own logins in games, at least for single-player titles, is data collection. Data is very valuable.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I think the strategy is so terrible that they can’t believe it, but they’ve publicly stated that’s the goal. I’m not sure what data they’d get out of it that they don’t get out of Steam achievements, but more likely it’s to brag about how many “active PSN users” they have, using a misleading number. Still, all I see when I see that requirement is online DRM.

billiam0202,

don’t think that’s their goal at all.

Literally their goal.

As mentioned (via Tom Warren) by [Playstation co-CEO Hermen] Hulst in the interview, Sony wants to tempt PC players to purchase and play sequels to single-player narrative games on a PlayStation console.

The_Helmet_Stays_On,

They really underestimate patient gamers.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

There’s their stated goal and their actual goals.

Do you think they’re just going to come out and say that they want your data?

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Not all of them. This one, yes. I suspect all future ones as well.

burgersc12,
@burgersc12@mander.xyz avatar

Can’t wait to pirate this game

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

My thoughts, exactly.

stardust,

I hope some mods come out that allows it to be skippable for single player games.

Aielman15, do games w Rivals of Aether II | Official Release Date Trailer (October 23)
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

I love the character design of this game so much. Too bad that I’m not good at this type of game…

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

You play some more and get better. Nobody starts good at a game unless they spent that time getting good at a similar one. Probably right at launch will be tons of people at your skill level to learn with.

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve spent a good chunk of my childhood playing Tekken 3 with my brother and our friends. I just suck at fighting games :D

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, that’s not some inherent quality you have. I played fighting games regularly for basically my entire life, but it was only about 5 years ago that I started to really learn how they work under the hood and focused on how to improve. You can too! Also, “learning how to get good” is a skill that transcends any one genre, so I recommend you try it on one game or another.

Kolanaki,
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This looks more like a Smash clone, which while technically a fighting game, is generally more accessible for people who don’t play fighting games. You can be pretty good just mashing buttons at random unlike Tekken or Street Fighter. Just FYI.

callouscomic, do games w Darksiders II: Deathinitive Edition | PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S Announcement Trailer

The re-re-re-re-re-release console gen.

Fades, do games w Grimbeard - Shadow Man: Remastered (PC) Review - Grimbeard video

Astrogoblin just finished a playthru of this classic

Carighan, do games w Dota 2 - Introducing Kez
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Ah sad, it’s just a teaser. Looks nice, but was hoping there’d be an actual introduction.

HollowNaught, do games w [New Frame Plus] The Overanimation of Zenless Zone Zero
@HollowNaught@lemmy.world avatar

I hate it how hoyoverse games have amazing animation, yet are easily some of the most manipulative games out there

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

You are not the only one who hate that. I refuse to play any of those game because of that, as well as many other microtransaction games, especially those who exploit FOMO.

feedum_sneedson, do games w Grimbeard - Shadow Man: Remastered (PC) Review - Grimbeard video

I put so many hours into this game without the map, before realising you are supposed to have a paper map. It was a bit impossible without the map. I really liked it, but it could have been a lot better.

style99, do games w Astro Bot - Accolades Trailer

This seems like one of those rare moments when you actually have to give Sony their kudos. Yes, pat yourself on the back this time.

hal_5700X, (edited ) do gaming w Baby Blues Nightmares is a horror game I created alone inspired by The Shining where you play as a Baby On A Tricycle which you can customize, paint and upgrade while evading monsters!

So it’s not based on the old WB show. 😅

Maven, do gaming w Baby Blues Nightmares is a horror game I created alone inspired by The Shining where you play as a Baby On A Tricycle which you can customize, paint and upgrade while evading monsters!

Why are people downvoting? This seems like a cool game

cafuneandchill,

I imagine people are probably fed up with “children horror” (or are, at least, wary of it)

Maven,

Yeah that’s valid. Mascot horror kinda killed a lot of horror games for me.

I’m far more likely to support something if I know the creator is excited about it and you kinda have to be in order to post on a platform as small as Lemmy.

Katana314,

Possibly because the same person made two posts recently about it. I notice one is “Trailer 2”, but still.

dwemthy, do games w Gaming's "Toxic Positivity" Problem

What’s with all the antisemitic dog whistles on screen whenever he’s talking about people fawning over shitty games?

Sunny, do games w Long watch on war gaming, how it works, morality and its impacts on regular gaming.
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Thanks for sharing this channel!

finitebanjo, do games w Sony. What are you even doing right now? PS5 Pro Announcement

Sony saw the incredible success of the Stadia and is moving in that direction.

Spaceinv8er, (edited ) do games w Sony. What are you even doing right now? PS5 Pro Announcement

Who is this guy and why should I care what he says?

Edit: Since no one could answer it. He’s an indie developer and made a few games. Silver Falls, Clasherball, and Animelee. He also says he’s a consultant, based on the video, but I couldn’t find anything of him doing that.

So he’s slightly a step above a regular guy making some video complaining.

eggy,

Who are you and why should I care what you write?

Spaceinv8er,

Sure I can answer that for you.

A regular guy, and you don’t have to.

Mr_Dr_Oink,

He says in the video. He’s been a marketing consultant for some really big companies. No one is better to talk about poor marketing decisions than someone who does it for a living and for big companies. And his iew point aligns closely with what most people are thinking.

Tbh you can decide for yourself how valid what he says it. Just watch the video. Its only short but it makes alot of sense.

Spaceinv8er,

I did watch the video. It’s why I asked. Anyone can say they are a consultant, and he doesn’t really mention much to back that claim. He doesn’t say anything novel either.

I’m not trying to be hypercritical, but if someone says that they are a credible source I want to know why.

Mr_Dr_Oink,

But he is just giving an opinion. Sure if you want to scrutinise then his credentials matter but for the sake of this video we should take it at face value as its not like he is going to be taken seriously by sony. But echoing an opinion shared by many is important with the small platform he has.

Looking at his channel it looks like he makes games for nintendo. And it would appear he has done other work outside of that field.

If more people in the industry follow suit or if this gets more people talking about sonys terrible decisions then im all for it.

EndlessApollo, do games w Gaming's "Toxic Positivity" Problem

If you think gamers are too positive you’ve never played an online game in you life cx

RightHandOfIkaros,

Toxic Positivity is a phrase that doesn’t refer to gamers online behavior in game, but rather the way that some will violently defend a product or company from any criticism like they’re shilling. Like how gaming media and online forums were trying to villanize the people criticizing Concord before that spectacularly failed.

Its like you aren’t allowed to say something that isn’t positive about games anymore (not even negative, even neutral comments are taken as “negative” and must be silenced at all costs). I mean, certain games like Star Wars Outlaws, Concord, Assassin’s Creed Shadows, etc.

Kinda like how the average Lemmy user acts with Linux.

EndlessApollo,

Understandable🐕that definitely is a problem, I wasn’t sure what op was talking about since the post seems to have the wrong video attached

dan1101,

Negative comments are fine but players are too black and white, they will say a game is “trash” because they don’t like one thing about it. Often they haven’t even played it. I think too many gamers are overwhelmed by choice or just spoiled.

cheddar,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

I want to live in a world where that is a problem worth making videos and writing essays. I guess some people are too bored.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

With the state of modern gaming, I can’t fault anyone who jumps down the throat of anyone speaking positively. It’s such a fucking predatory industry at this point, full of shitfuckery, and personally I don’t want to give any positive reinforcement to any games that have invasive DRM, online-only, kernel-level access, in-game ads and microtransactions, 3rd-party accounts, 3rd-party launchers, 3rd-party EULAs, prolific data-mining, etc. All of these should be deal-breakers. Things are this way because we allow them to be.

mods_mum,

If you watched the video you’d know your comment is completely misplaced.

EndlessApollo,

When I made that comment the post had the wrong video linked

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