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feedum_sneedson, do games w Grimbeard - Shadow Man: Remastered (PC) Review - Grimbeard video

I put so many hours into this game without the map, before realising you are supposed to have a paper map. It was a bit impossible without the map. I really liked it, but it could have been a lot better.

style99, do games w Astro Bot - Accolades Trailer

This seems like one of those rare moments when you actually have to give Sony their kudos. Yes, pat yourself on the back this time.

hal_5700X, (edited ) do gaming w Baby Blues Nightmares is a horror game I created alone inspired by The Shining where you play as a Baby On A Tricycle which you can customize, paint and upgrade while evading monsters!

So it’s not based on the old WB show. 😅

Maven, do gaming w Baby Blues Nightmares is a horror game I created alone inspired by The Shining where you play as a Baby On A Tricycle which you can customize, paint and upgrade while evading monsters!

Why are people downvoting? This seems like a cool game

cafuneandchill,

I imagine people are probably fed up with “children horror” (or are, at least, wary of it)

Maven,

Yeah that’s valid. Mascot horror kinda killed a lot of horror games for me.

I’m far more likely to support something if I know the creator is excited about it and you kinda have to be in order to post on a platform as small as Lemmy.

Katana314,

Possibly because the same person made two posts recently about it. I notice one is “Trailer 2”, but still.

dwemthy, do games w Gaming's "Toxic Positivity" Problem

What’s with all the antisemitic dog whistles on screen whenever he’s talking about people fawning over shitty games?

Sunny, do games w Long watch on war gaming, how it works, morality and its impacts on regular gaming.
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Thanks for sharing this channel!

finitebanjo, do games w Sony. What are you even doing right now? PS5 Pro Announcement

Sony saw the incredible success of the Stadia and is moving in that direction.

Spaceinv8er, (edited ) do games w Sony. What are you even doing right now? PS5 Pro Announcement

Who is this guy and why should I care what he says?

Edit: Since no one could answer it. He’s an indie developer and made a few games. Silver Falls, Clasherball, and Animelee. He also says he’s a consultant, based on the video, but I couldn’t find anything of him doing that.

So he’s slightly a step above a regular guy making some video complaining.

eggy,

Who are you and why should I care what you write?

Spaceinv8er,

Sure I can answer that for you.

A regular guy, and you don’t have to.

Mr_Dr_Oink,

He says in the video. He’s been a marketing consultant for some really big companies. No one is better to talk about poor marketing decisions than someone who does it for a living and for big companies. And his iew point aligns closely with what most people are thinking.

Tbh you can decide for yourself how valid what he says it. Just watch the video. Its only short but it makes alot of sense.

Spaceinv8er,

I did watch the video. It’s why I asked. Anyone can say they are a consultant, and he doesn’t really mention much to back that claim. He doesn’t say anything novel either.

I’m not trying to be hypercritical, but if someone says that they are a credible source I want to know why.

Mr_Dr_Oink,

But he is just giving an opinion. Sure if you want to scrutinise then his credentials matter but for the sake of this video we should take it at face value as its not like he is going to be taken seriously by sony. But echoing an opinion shared by many is important with the small platform he has.

Looking at his channel it looks like he makes games for nintendo. And it would appear he has done other work outside of that field.

If more people in the industry follow suit or if this gets more people talking about sonys terrible decisions then im all for it.

EndlessApollo, do games w Gaming's "Toxic Positivity" Problem

If you think gamers are too positive you’ve never played an online game in you life cx

RightHandOfIkaros,

Toxic Positivity is a phrase that doesn’t refer to gamers online behavior in game, but rather the way that some will violently defend a product or company from any criticism like they’re shilling. Like how gaming media and online forums were trying to villanize the people criticizing Concord before that spectacularly failed.

Its like you aren’t allowed to say something that isn’t positive about games anymore (not even negative, even neutral comments are taken as “negative” and must be silenced at all costs). I mean, certain games like Star Wars Outlaws, Concord, Assassin’s Creed Shadows, etc.

Kinda like how the average Lemmy user acts with Linux.

EndlessApollo,

Understandable🐕that definitely is a problem, I wasn’t sure what op was talking about since the post seems to have the wrong video attached

dan1101,

Negative comments are fine but players are too black and white, they will say a game is “trash” because they don’t like one thing about it. Often they haven’t even played it. I think too many gamers are overwhelmed by choice or just spoiled.

cheddar,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

I want to live in a world where that is a problem worth making videos and writing essays. I guess some people are too bored.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

With the state of modern gaming, I can’t fault anyone who jumps down the throat of anyone speaking positively. It’s such a fucking predatory industry at this point, full of shitfuckery, and personally I don’t want to give any positive reinforcement to any games that have invasive DRM, online-only, kernel-level access, in-game ads and microtransactions, 3rd-party accounts, 3rd-party launchers, 3rd-party EULAs, prolific data-mining, etc. All of these should be deal-breakers. Things are this way because we allow them to be.

mods_mum,

If you watched the video you’d know your comment is completely misplaced.

EndlessApollo,

When I made that comment the post had the wrong video linked

RightHandOfIkaros, (edited ) do games w Gaming's "Toxic Positivity" Problem

This is super real, but I feel like this will probably not be well receieved on Lemmy.

Also, video unrelated?

EDIT: OP fixed the video link, it initially linked to a MoistCritikal video about the guy that was using bots to earn money on Spotify.

Ephera,

I feel like this problem might be somewhat endemic to the US?

In my experience, US culture in general is a lot more positive about everything. Like, if someone from the US is not praising the living shit out of something, that means they didn’t like it.
Whereas here in Germany, it’s usually the other way around. If you don’t find anything to grumble about, that’s the highest form of praise.
Obviously, US culture isn’t one massive blob, the extremely positive folks are probably just those I notice the most, but maybe that’s also what the video author is fed up with.

Well, and then people from the US tend to also be a lot more positive about companies in general, presumably a remainder from Cold War propaganda. The journalists/entertainers from Germany and the UK that I watch, do criticize games quite directly…

kryllic, do games w Sony. What are you even doing right now? PS5 Pro Announcement
@kryllic@programming.dev avatar

I regret buying a PS5 at all. I haven’t been a PSN subscriber for over three years at this point and I don’t feel inclined to be in the future. All the games my friends and I play are on PC and really the only game worth a damn is Astrobot, which is far and away the most fun platformer game I’ve played and is the sole game to justify that console purchase lol.

I echo the other comments here saying this generation is a waste, it really is and there is nothing really to be gained by getting the latest and “greatest” console today. Maybe it’s just a sign of the times that consoles just don’t have that much pull like they used to, unless they’re portable like the Steam Deck or Switch.

filister,

The PS 5 price was very reasonable, considering how expensive it was to build a PC at that time, now the PS5 Pro is a completely different beast and I do agree it makes very little sense.

garretble, do games w Sony. What are you even doing right now? PS5 Pro Announcement
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

This thing is expensive, and I probably won’t get one.

But the Panasonic 3DO cost $700 in 90s money and that thing sucked ass, so this price isn’t something we’ve never seen before.

Sony does need to read the room, though. It’s a bit of a bad look.

Squizzy,

Prices have changed since then, tvs were serious investments that ate up a significant portion of your income. It was a different consideration back then.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think Sony is trying for bankruptcy. With that whole PSN thing with, which game was it, Helldivers? Just…who would ever buy anything from Sony ever again?

purrtastic,

Ah, the 3DO. So much hype from Trip Hawkins.

_sideffect, do games w Sony. What are you even doing right now? PS5 Pro Announcement

I’m not buying the pro, the PS6 or the next Xbox series console.

This gen felt like a waste of money to me, with only minute differences at a huge cost.

I’ll wait until 4 years into the new console gen to decide.

Until then, I have my pc and my 7800xt Nitro+

clay_pidgin,

I would have considered a new console if I could follow the naming convention. this pro and series whatever nonsense is too confusing for someone who isn’t plugged into console generations anymore.

Itsamelemmy,

Ok, xbox is confusing with the one, one x, series x. Etc But PS is PS5 and ps5pro. And I guess whether you want a disc drive.

PS has kept their naming consistent enough that it’s not hard to figure out. Ps4 and ps5 are obviously different gens, one x series x doesn’t inform you in any way what’s better.

dogslayeggs,

It’s difficult for you to follow that 5 is higher than 4 and that Pro is better than non-Pro? Seriously?

Squizzy,

I think I am going to go Xbox next time around for console games. The PS5 has been a let down in terms of game selection and overall improvements. I actually get mad when I go to look at games in the store and the ads and clips are blurry and low res because Sony dont invest in their backend to stream at a decent resolution.

I bought a meh pc yesterday because Im going to use that moving forward, pay for myinternet once and use it when I want.

Itsamelemmy,

If you think the ps5 game selection is bad wait till you see what xbox doesn’t have. And everything exclusive to xbox is on PC. Sony has been absolutely mopping the floor with xbox this gen, which is probably why they think people will spend $700 in the pro.

And how’s your internet? Because I’ve never thought the videos on the store were bad enough to complain about. Might not be 4k but its never been blurry for me.

Squizzy,

I have had the same issue with 10gb and 1gb internet. Their store has terrible optimisation even though they baked it into the ps5.

Sony puts their games on PC too, I just dont want to support them anymore. I will probably go pc fulltime. I stopped with Nintendo too because of how badly they sucked.

barsquid,

I really love the Switch form factor and detachable controls. I bought a Steam Deck instead, though.

Jrockwar,

It’s okay. You did the same as me but skipping the steps where you spend the money on a switch, and then leave it in a drawer when you get tired of games that play at 27 FPS, which you’re lucky if you manage to get with a 20% discount after tracking them on dekudeals for months.

EncryptKeeper,

“Minute differences” is a bit absurd. It may have been a bit too long since you’ve booted up your PS4.

Blueberrydreamer,

Nah, better lighting doesn’t do a damn thing to make a game more fun. The only notable difference that even matters is better load times.

EncryptKeeper,

Well from that perspective literally any upgrade at all is entirely pointless and a waste of money. There’s no point upgrading from your Nintendo 64. None of the games made possible by any console since can truly make any games inherently more fun, it’s all just graphical and performance enhancements.

Blueberrydreamer,

I have to assume you’re too young to remember previous generations.

Increased power makes a difference up to a point, but we’re now so far into diminishing returns you can hardly tell the difference between a ps4 game and the ps5 ‘enhanced’ if you don’t have a 4k TV.

Increased computing power used to open up entirely new concepts in gaming. 3D environments, then larger and larger worlds, dynamic physics engines, more complex NPC Ai and more power to run larger numbers of enemies at a time.

Now, it hardly matters. There’s more than enough power to do pretty much anything you want. Unlimited worlds, thousands of NPCs, photorealistic graphics, and absolutely nothing new. It can always be ‘bigger and better’ but at what point does that stop mattering? For me, it was last console generation.

EncryptKeeper,

Increased computing power used to open up entirely new concepts in gaming. 3D environments, then larger and larger worlds, dynamic physics engines, more complex NPC Ai and more power to run larger numbers of enemies at a time.

Absolutely none of that makes a new console inherently more fun. Many of the games I have on my launch PS1 and N64 are to this day unsurpassed. Not only that but some of the most critically acclaimed, genre defining games of the last 10 years could be run on a calculator. On the other hand we have all this extra compute power yet video game AI is universally garbage. To this very day the hands down best combat AI in a game are Halo 1 and the original F.E.A.R.

Console upgrades today are about making things prettier, fit on bigger screens, and perform better. If you think the jump from PS4 to PS5 wasn’t worth the money, there’s no upgrade that will ever be worth it to you again.

Blueberrydreamer,

I’m confused why you seem like you’re arguing with me but still fundamentally making the same point. Those improvements don’t inherently make games more fun, but they create opportunities for variety and new elements to the medium. It was previous tech improvements that made Halo and F.E.A.R. possible, that’s exactly what I’m talking about.

But processing power isn’t really a relevant limitation to game design anymore. I genuinely don’t see any future console generations being particularly enticing for me, outside an upgrade to my steam deck, especially when most of what I play is 5-20 years old anyway.

EncryptKeeper,

You’ve got it backwards. I said from your perspective, any upgrade will be a waste of money. You then proceeded to argue how from your perspective, any upgrade will be a waste of money.

Blueberrydreamer,

Well that is my argument, we hit diminishing returns this generation, and further upgrades are a waste of money.

If you have anything relevant to add, it’s certainly welcome, but ignoring context to try to make my point sound worse is just wasting both our time.

EncryptKeeper,

We’ve been at diminishing returns for close to 20 years now. I’m not sure exactly what your point is.

_sideffect,

We gained ssd drives sure, I agree that’s a great improvement.

But 4k30 still feels like a minute upgrade as it’s not native 4k.

Forget about the stated 8k on the PS5 box, lol.

What else did we gain… Less battery life for the controller (but the haptics are great).

More thumbstick drift.

Maybe, 8 exclusives? 12?

Not worth it to me.

EncryptKeeper,

Yes besides all of the brand new hardware that improved load times dramatically and can reliably play games at 60fps without blowing out your eardrums due to fan noise, the best new controller to hit the market since the first rumble pak, and all the new games to play on it, it didn’t improve much… lol

You better settle in bucko because I have some bad news, it only gets more incremental from here.

_sideffect,

Lmao, you’re a Sony fan boy aren’t you?

EncryptKeeper,

Nah, just a guy who has actually used both consoles and understands the state of Compute today.

_sideffect,

Alright, you do you. I’m not happy with Sony’s approach, so I won’t be buying any of their new products.

(Unless they make a Vita 2 that is actually priced well for the specs)

Rai,

I stopped after the PS3wii360 but I have to say, the PS4 was legit garbage that took FOREVER to load and played like poo (hence why I stopped) but I gotta admit the base PS5 and Xbox whatever are FANTASTIC machines. The AMD video chips and SSDs make a heck of a difference.

EncryptKeeper,

That’s really the key. The PS4 and even Pro were fighting for their lives by the end of the generation. Anyone who claims the upgrade to a PS5 was “minute” is lying to themselves about their jet engine PS4

Rai,

Could not agree more. I left consoles for only computer and stopped caring about exclusives, and even my bitch ass recognizes the PS5 as amazing. The PS4 was horrible though. You’re totally right.

mrvictory1,

Seriously why does a PS4 sound like a jet engine even when no game is loaded?

CrayonRosary,

PS3wii360

That’s pronounced “pthwee sixty”

Nikls94,

To be fair, the PS5 was the worst investment I made last year. I did never buy a PS4, I own PSX, 2 and 3 tho.

tonyn,

It feels like PS3 was the biggest leap in technology. I loved my PS3, and had a ton of games for it. Since then it’s been incremental, faster loading times, incrementally better graphics, and such. The PS5 makes loading screens on Bethesda games tolerable to me

Goronmon,

This gen felt like a waste of money to me, with only minute differences at a huge cost.

Nah, SSDs are a massive upgrade, even ignoring everything else.

I could never go back to the spinning disk hard drives.

Rai,

Agreed. SSDs are insane. I have every console from the 2600 to the PS3wii360 but stopped at the PS4 Gen because they were terrible.

The PS5 is a wonderful machine (but I’m still only a computer bitch forever now)

TheBraveSirRobbin,

PS4 was fantastic! So many great games pushing the system to it’s absolute limits like God of War, RDR2, and Bloodborne. Now with the PS5 we get games like God of War 2, Spider Man 2, and Elden Ring. And you can play them all on the PS4. But no, let’s release a PS5 pro before even scratching the surface of what the PS5 is capable of

Rai,

I remember watching my friend play Monster Hunter World and it took like three different 2-3 minute loading screens to get into a hunt.

PS5 is INCREDIBLY powerful, I don’t understand the need for a pro… I fully agree with you there.

Anticorp,

The load screen improvement is from hard drive read speeds. The pro model upgrades the CPU and GPU for more powerful graphics processing.

Rai,

Also gimme Bloodborne for my computer PLEASE and don’t require a PlayStation account AAAAAAAA

Anticorp,

Specifically m.2 nvme. The 4 had ssd drives. The 5 has nvme form factor which is 600-700% faster read/write than Sata drives.

Anticorp,

Make no mistake, the 4 pro to the 5 is a huge upgrade. The disk read time from nvme alone is worth the upgrade. But the 5 to 5 pro doesn’t really seem like it would be worth buying another console. The 6 might be worth a replacement, but who knows. That’s 4 years away.

peopleproblems, do games w Sony. What are you even doing right now? PS5 Pro Announcement

I love my PS5.

But I also just got a Ryzen 9 5900x for $300 off, I have a RTX 2070 Super. My PS5 can play games with HDR at 4k at 30fps. Big ol 65" screen. With the Ryzen 7 3700x I could get like 70 FPS on cyberpunk 2077 on my 2k monitor 27" screen, no HDR with DLSS3 enabled.

The processor upgrade alone was an huge boost to game quality for $250. Since I now don’t have to replace all my internals to utilize an RTX 4080 Super, I’m getting one of those.

The RTX 4080 Super has an HDMI 2.1 port, so I can use VRR on my TV and enjoy the 120hz smooth frame rate.

The PS5 pro is essentially the same as the PS4 Pro was the last generation. It you have a PS5, you won’t notice a huge difference.

_sideffect,

Look into moonlight streaming and you can get the same PC experience on your tv, too

peopleproblems,

Is it still kicking? I didn’t have a lot of success with it in the past, I’ll give it another shot

_sideffect,

Hell yeah, it’s awesome

Kbobabob,

Yeah. I recommend using Sunshine instead of Nvidia game streaming.

peopleproblems,

Ok haven’t heard of that I’ll look it up

callouscomic, do games w Sony. What are you even doing right now? PS5 Pro Announcement

Remember when some top Sony exec said that this generation wouldn’t need a pro, and that that was a unique PS4 generation thing?

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Looking at GTA6 I wonder if a normal PS5 can even run the game at the resolution from the trailer

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