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ByteJunk, do games w The Talos Principle 2 | Launch Trailer
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I didn’t know the first one until I got it as one of epic free games and it blew my mind. I’m keeping this onw on my radar.

attemptX, do games w The Talos Principle 2 | Launch Trailer
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Can’t wait to play it !

terrehbyte, do games w Stop using Fandom

An extension called Indie Wiki Buddy can also help with this by helping direct you to known alternatives to fandom for specific franchises or falling back to Breezewiki-based instances that rehost Fandom content without all of the Fandom bloat. It also provides this filtering and hinting to search results too, so you don’t have to change your workflow too much to use it.

Chetzemoka, do games w Stop using Fandom

I don’t seem to run into a lot of Hollow Knight fans around here yet so I popped over to the HK community on that other website. Confirm: this video is one of the top trending on YouTube today lol. I figured, mossbag is…shall we say a very well-known figure in the community, if you’re not in the know.

I absolutely still rely on the wiki for HK shit I can’t remember like boss HP scaling and where tf was that last item I need for that one upgrade god dammit?? Glad to see them move to somewhere independent. Will donate.

pathos, do games w Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - Booster Course Pass Wave 6 - Course Overview
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No GCN Rainbow Road?
Remind me where we keep the pitchforks?

xvlc, do games w Stop using Fandom

You might have heard of alternative frontends to services such as YouTube (Piped, Invidious), X/Twitter (Nitter), etc.

Something similar exists for Fandom: Breezewiki. This instance seems to occasionally result in errors, other instances seem to work more reliable.

Vipsu, do games w Stop using Fandom
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Fandom hosts a lot of wikis for long forgotten nich’e games and with these games there usually isn’t enough interest to move to another wiki. When it comes to these wikis theres rarely if ever a team behind updating the wiki and more often than not the content is just being updated and maintained by random invidividuals who just happen to be engaging with the content at given time. The very low barrier of entry makes this possible as you don’t really need to join a team to edit pages or even coordinate with other people.

When playing one of these games I like to record and share some my observations and findings about games mechanics etc but more often than not the only wiki I can find is fandom wiki that is either incomplete and possibly even abandoned. I cant be bothered to create my own Wiki for these games so I’ll just start editing that one instead because it’s easy, the foundation is usually already there and I don’t need to bother taking any sort of responsibility/mantle of maintainer or admin.

While Fandom may not be the most optimal choice and there may be better ways to host wiki out there its still better than some obnoxious google document or poorly formatted steam guide that no one else can edit.

wildginger,

The reason you often cannot find smaller wikis is because this site killed them off.

Vipsu,
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All too common within attention economy for people to go for the more popular choice.
Search engine algorithms tend to make things even worse.

But there are games out there that might not even have wikis if Fandom didn’t make the barrier of entry so low.

wildginger,

What games are so small as to not be capable of generating a non fandom wiki, but are large enough that the wiki is not completely empty and factually incorrect?

Vipsu,
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Well old games like The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing: Final Cut or Moero Chronicles.
Neither of these where completely empty when I found them. Been updating them and filling some gaps in the wiki for the fun of it.

Many would consider both of these games “dead” by many metrics but people can still buy them, play them and have fun with them.

wildginger,

And wiki.gg wouldnt host them?

Vipsu,
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The problem is that the content is already in wiki fandom and there are no contributors invested/interested enough to migrate all the information to alternative wiki. These fandom wikis have no teams just random individuals making contributions of various sizes.

If I do ever get invested enough to a game to actually create a wiki I’ll definately use something else than fandom.

wildginger,

… Didnt you just say you made those 2 examples? Or did I misread

Vipsu,
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Quoting what I said in earlier reply:

Neither of these where completely empty when I found them. Been updating them and filling some gaps in the wiki for the fun of it.

I have not created any wikis myself I’ve just contributed to few that I’ve found which unfortunately have been hosted on fandom.

wildginger,

Ah, I did misread.

Pretty sure wiki.gg has a wiki port request, so the fandom versions can be moved

Resol, do games w Stop using Fandom
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I wish I could, but I like browsing Logopedia which is hosting on Fandom and has announced no plans to leave the site. If they did, I’d completely abandon that place and block everything that has to do with them.

And no, it’s not easy to migrate a database of hundreds of thousands of logos to another wikifarm, especially if new stuff arrives all the time.

hal_5700X, do games w Stop using Fandom
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Who knows of a good Final Fantasy wiki?

g6d3np81, do games w Stop using Fandom

Regarding SEO, What's stopping maintainers from vandalizing their own fandom page?

It would not be difficult to make a bot to update fandom page with a convincing but slightly wrong info, after a few hundred iterations, it's all useless. Go look at what google recommend and do complete opposite. I'm convinced this will bomb ranking and put whatever wiki they migrated to at the top.

djsoren19,

The disinformation doesn’t really matter. The fandom wiki’s naturally become incorrect over time, since they’re typically no longer maintained after a community switches, so vandalizing it after the fact won’t really change anything. For Path of Exile, it took the developers linking to the new wiki, and about two years of the community sending new players to the correct wiki, before it even started to show up in searches. Even then, I believe the fandom wiki still shows up first if you look at some of the very old entries.

g6d3np81,

Misinformation may reduce repeat visit, that part, I have no idea if google take into account when they rank the result. Domain/page age also plays a role. But what about other "problems"? If I try to de-optimize every items on that guide, will it speed up the de-rank as well?

Stovetop,

UESP has also been the best information resource for Elder Scrolls since forever but that doesn’t stop Fandom’s Elder Scrolls Wiki from being the first result if you Google “Dunmer”.

Katana314, do games w [Fan Game] Bloodborne Kart - Release Date Trailer

I’m curious; are they gonna aim for splitscreen play? Could make for a lot of fun party moments.

JowlesMcGee,
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I checked the website listed in the video, and it looks like it says there will be local split screen!

4am, do games w [Fan Game] Bloodborne Kart - Release Date Trailer

I’m so glad this is happening

JowlesMcGee, do games w [Fan Game] Bloodborne Kart - Release Date Trailer
@JowlesMcGee@kbin.social avatar

Very excited to see this finally released. As glad as I am that it's free, I wish Sony or From could have given it their official blessing and partnered with her so she could sell it and make money. She's put a ton of work into this and the PS1 Demake, and I wish she could have gotten paid for her effort. She deserves it

candle_lighter, do games w [Fan Game] Bloodborne Kart - Release Date Trailer
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its from the lady who made bloodeborn psx so it’s gotta be good

HipsterTenZero, do games w [Fan Game] Bloodborne Kart - Release Date Trailer
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hell yeah, bloodborne kart. Check out Lillith’s bloodborne demake if you haven’t already.

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