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18_24_61_b_17_17_4, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller
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I wonder what the haptic feedback being a speaker is all about?

ArchmageAzor,
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The vibrations a speaker can produce could be very useful for haptic feedback. If this is a speaker modified for that purpose with a thicker, heavier membrane I think it would work very well

Melonpoly,

That’s basically how haptic feedback already works. You can play music though the dualsence/ switch vibration motors.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

I like when I mute my switch and the rumble makes the pokemon Screams.

MrScottyTay,

Think like Nintendo’s HD rumble. There’s certain patterns it can do that make it sound like… sound. In Golf Story for example, the hits with the club, with the hd rumble on, you can perfectly hear the skins of hitting a club even with the audio of the game down. It’s strange and great at the same time. The steam controller also used it for those turn on, turn off jingles you could have on, they also sound great.

Jimbo, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
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Holy shit, it looks like skyblivion is getting kinda closed to finished finally and then this

BloodSlut,

Skyblivon will likely be higher quality tbh

SkyezOpen,

Skyblivion and skywind are fan made and will be infinitely better than any remake/remaster from Bethesda.

dangblingus,

Look at Enderal. A stand alone Skyrim mod that people (who’ve played it) rate much higher than Skyrim.

tal, (edited )
@tal@kbin.social avatar

Heh. Porting Skywind to an Oblivion remaster might make sense.

It'd be interesting to see Tamriel Rebuilt ported to Skywind ported to this Oblivion remaster.

Need some kind of automated migration tools to help.

MentalEdge, do games w Meta is shutting down three Oculus games without explanation
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If Echo Arena wasn’t safe, then neither is anything else.

maxprime, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new controller

Wow finally gyro support. That’s the biggest info nugget for me.

lazycouchpotato, (edited )
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The PS3 had gyro with its Sixaxis controller in 2006. Not sure what took Xbox 17 years.

Edit: After reading certain comments, it seems that The Verge could have misunderstood the use of the accelerometer. It appears to be for the “lift to wake” function rather than gyro.

pzyko, (edited ) do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

And what about that free next gen update for Fallout 4 that Todd announced last year as coming in 2023 and never has been mention by Bethesda ever again?

Knusper, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

An Oblivion remaster in between the Skyrim re-releases. Getting creative here…

xinayder,

An Oblivion remaster made in Skyrim

owait, that already exists, Skyblivion is a thing

Mandy, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

we already have a oblivion remaster, its called skyrim, skyrim special edition, skyrim alexa edition, skyrim vr, skyirm fuck you give us your money edition, skyrim very special edition, skyirm legendary edition, skyrim anniversary edition

BloodSlut,

Dont forget Skyrim Space Addition (i enjoy Starfield but i have to be honest here)

Mandy,

ah yes, apologies

deafboy, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new controller
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Now add a touchpad, and you got yourself a steam controller! The ability to dim down the LED indicator would also be nice.

lazycouchpotato,
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The LED dimming feature was added to both the console and the controller a while ago.

support.xbox.com/…/how-to-configure-night-mode

ISolox, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller

Another only digital console: ew.

Gyro in an Xbox controller: W

sugar_in_your_tea,

I wish they’d make the drive an optional add-on that you could buy later if you decide that digital only isn’t for you, instead of using it as product segmentation. But that would be pro-consumer, so not gonna happen.

Tronn4,

They should make it HD DVD drive compatible 😁

insomniac,
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Or at the very least let us convert our disc licenses to digital.

sugar_in_your_tea,

That’s problematic because you can resell disks. I suppose they could sign disks independently and then only allow one digital owner, but then you’d need a formal process every time you resell, or worse, disallow reselling, and the cost for producing disks would go away up (not to mention returns would be a headache).

Poiar,

Fuck no.

I’m not getting an external disc drive. It will only end in tears.

I’m going all PC, Nintendo, or PS5 if Xbox goes all-digital.

I thought the selling point of consoles was supposed to be second hand games being cheap

sugar_in_your_tea,

Another benefit of having an external disk drive is that you can replace it if yours goes bad. I’m not sure what’s going to “end in tears,” it would work just like any other USB device, you plug it in and the console could load games from it.

But yeah, an all digital console makes no sense to me, unless it’s an interesting form factor like a handheld or an arcade cabinet. So the only console I have is a Switch, and everything else is on PC.

UrPartnerInCrime,
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I was all for physical copies for years. And I get why people still would be because they have massive collections. But honestly now I’ve got the disc drive ps5 version and it hasn’t been used at all. Granted I only play like 3 or 4 games at a time for a long time, but every game I’ve bought has been digital.

Plus, your point of being able to replace the drive is huge (to me atleast) because every console I’ve had the drive went first; they were also super out of warranty. So I get why people want built in drives but it’s just one less port that’s going to breaks that also less and less people are going to want or need.

Lastly cause im like weighting a thesis or something haha but I bought a 4tb external hard drive that’s plugged in the back of the ps5 that holds everything I could want if the internet went dark. And I can throw that in the microwave incase of a solar storm so

sugar_in_your_tea,

Will that drive still work on the PS6? Will it work in 20 years? Can you buy more games after a Sony has shutdown the digital store? Can you sell your digital purchases if you don’t want them anymore?

Those are the kinds of problems physical media solves.

I buy digital media on my PC and physical media on my consoles, because PC games aren’t hardware specific whereas console games are.

Corkyskog,
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I fear more and more games will become like BG3, digitally exclusive. I asked for it for my birthday and was told the game didn’t exist for PS5. I was confused, as I most certainly have been reading reviews, then I found out it’s only digital and thats why no one saw a copy.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, it’s too bad they don’t have a physical release, but it is DRM-free on PC, so game preservation is totally not an issue.

MrScottyTay,

Ps5s next model is reportedly going the external disc drive route

InEnduringGrowStrong, do games w Meta is shutting down three Oculus games without explanation
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I can’t understand people trusting Meta in any shape or form.

maxenmajs, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
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I hope they would at least get it into a game engine that doesn’t make my computer freak out every time I press alt+tab.

dangblingus, (edited ) do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

Cool! You know it’s just going to be an AI upscale job, so there will still be the amazingly terrible brokenness that Oblivion offered. Tying major skills to a 1-10 level up system seems to make sense initially, until you wanted to be a potion making wizard, and then it’s “OOPS! you made too many potions, now you’re not strong enough to fight a rat”. Also, Bethesda could have made the Skill Bonus you get on levelling up more balanced, as it forces you to literally not attack any more until levelling up. If you attack too much, you might level up your weapon ability (One Handed, 2 Handed, etc) beyond the points required to level up, in which case you just wasted extra Skill Bonus points by levelling up too much before sleeping. Exploration-wise though, Oblivion is a master class in open world design. It doesn’t overstay its welcome and every corner of the map is a joy to visit.

Summzashi,

You can easily create a killer potion to kill that rat though. You can be a god in Morrowind in under 10 minutes by just training alchemy and enchanting. Which is why this was changed in oblivion. Everything you describe are nothing but issues that arise from the user not taking the time to understand the game mechanics. That’s why Skyrim was dumbed down to the point where nothing mattered anymore. Oblivion at least tried to be a proper RPG.

_haha_oh_wow_, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
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…but not a Morrowind remaster??? Weak.

emeraldheart,

Look into Skywind and rejoice 😊

pomodoro_longbreak,
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smh for real. May as well just make our own at this point

garretble, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new controller
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They saw the 2013 Mac Pro and thought: “Yes.”

NOT_RICK, do games w Meta is shutting down three Oculus games without explanation
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Further validating my decision to stay very far away from zuccVR

ThunderingJerboa,
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I mean it has a place in the market. Even though facebook sucks, they are the leaders/pushers of VR at the moment. No new person wants to spend 1000+ dollars on something they may end up hating especially with the rumors around the quest 3 lite. Like meta makes up about 60% of the market-share of those who take part in the steam hardware survey.

Sethayy,

Very weird way to try and put a positive spin on a monopoly

ThunderingJerboa,
@ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social avatar

So does Pixmax, HTC, Valve, or Pico no longer exist? VR is facing issues with adoption. I'm sorry but to the VR snobs even though I love VR having people argue you can't experience it unless you spend close to a grand on something that many people's feelings towards it are take it or leave it is a bit too much for most consumers. Meta is problematic with buying up so many of the vr game makers but at the end of the day these companies chose to sell themselves and lets be honest here the VR market isn't hot right now and prior it was fucking worse.

Sethayy,

Yk a monopoly can stilll have competition and be a monopoly right?

And like by definition buying up all the competition is monopolistic, no matter if the companies wanna sell or not, they were influenced by the size of meta (and their financial backing), which gave them an unfair advantage against the competition. Entirely unrelated to hardware or software, both of which are dogshit in comparison - they were able to take a market share cause they can undercut all the competitors, exactly why their headsets are cheap.

Cmon man have like a single thought for yourself that ain’t propaganda

ThunderingJerboa,
@ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social avatar

The irony of saying "Cmon man have like a single thought for yourself that ain’t propaganda" while just defaulting to "FaCeBoOk BaD" is peak. I already made mention of how facebook or whatever they are called is shit but you have to be braindead to see before meta entered the scene, VR was dead in the water. So yeah they tried to establish their little stupid metaverse thing and it thankfully failed. You aren't even addressing my point of no consumer wants to pay 1000 fucking bucks on something they likely hate. Most consumers drop off hard on VR. So cheap headsets are a net good thing for VR, even though the cunts who make them are dick heads.

Game devs aren't just going to be developing games if there is no fucking audience to play/buy them. So yeah many of those devs got bought out since Meta was the only one handing money out for VR related tech/games. It was a devil's bargin as shown with Echo VR and many others but I can't fault the devs since getting food on the table pretty fucking important than sticking with the values of some idiot VR snobs who think the only way VR should work is via pc connection on a pc that is valued in the 1k to 2k range on top of the previously mentioned VR headset that can set you back another 1k to 2k. Like I have the opportunity to have a pc in that range and I see how the quest 2 is very inferior to many other headsets but you have to be a fucking moron to invest thousands on something you will play with for a fucking week. So I'm thankful Meta (who is likely spying on its users) gave me an opportunity to try out VR at a "decent" price so now I know I'm into it and can invest further into the industry but nah. You stick with your idiotic groupthink of "MeTa BaD" when I will say I'm glad exist since people can take advantage of this deal and see if they want to further invest in the medium. I can't wait for they to die out but I ain't looking a gift horse in the mouth when they are ones who are the only pushers of VR right now. Apple doesn't give a shit about gaming and while Sony pushes out a pretty damn good headset, they don't let you use them on PC where most of the enthusiasts are. Console players don't want to spend the price of the console they are playing on to possibly play a handful of games with little support afterwards.

conciselyverbose, (edited )

Their position in the market is a big part of a reason the market is dogshit.

They came in, bought everything, turned it into a fucking disaster, and are now poised to abandon it.

detalferous,

You nailed it. Exactly.

ThunderingJerboa,
@ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social avatar

Sucks they bought up most things but those devs chose that option and I can't fault them since lets be honest here, VR market is utter garbage, there is very little money in it. I don't like meta, they fucking suck but the quest series has basically provided the option of the common person to actually try vr. Not many people want to spend close to 1k to 2k on a thing they will maybe fucking hate. I wouldn't say they are the sole reason its dogshit but the reality is people need an entry point headset. The market wasn't providing that and now that it does, people can finally get into VR even though it may lead to technical downgrades since the market is targeting those users.

Hell even though the PSVR 2 is a fantastic headset, most console gamers aren't going to spend more money on a peripheral than they actually spend on the console they are playing it on. Hell I would love Sony to give the drivers to PSVR 2 to pc players since shit a bang for your buck for specs but that ain't happening.

glimpseintotheshit,

I don’t like Meta for a lot of reasons but without them VR would probably be fucking dead by now. Yes, Zucks Metaverse is absolute garbage but the stuff Reality Labs is doing thanks to Metas funding is absolutely amazing.

I gave up on VR for years after buying a Rift in 2017 because it was a janky, horrible to set up, tethered, nausea inducing mess that i paid what, 700 bucks for?

Recently got a used Quest 2 for 200 bucks and it’s fucking amazing. Completely wireless, hand tracking, much better clarity and i can stay in VR for hours without feeling sick.

I wish they would push high quality content a bit more like they used to instead of their shitty Horizon stuff but if it wasn’t for the millions of headsets they sold, no one would be able to develop shit right now for VR.

To say they ruined VR is absolutely delusional imo, sorry.

conciselyverbose,

You got it for $200 because you're paying with your privacy. It's an absolute dumpster fire of a deal that's not remotely worth it. They could pay you $100/hour to play it and requiring an account with them, in and of itself, makes it the worst possible theoretical version of VR.

Facebook is absolutely the reason VR is fucking terrible. Their involvement, in and of itself, completely destroyed the community, many of whom abandoned the space entirely when they took away viable options to replace with privacy invading crimes against humanity. Turning enthusiasts from advocates into activists against their product is the reason there's no money left.

glimpseintotheshit,

I’m not paying anything, my Quest runs completely offline. I use a separate router for streaming and the Quest is mac address blocked in my main router (just to be sure). ALVR is side loaded onto the Quest so i can play Steam VR games without the need for the Oculus app on my PC at all. It’s not that hard to do if you care about your privacy.

I’m not exactly sure which community they “completely destroyed” but your whole reasoning for that sounds extremely subjective to me. Facebook controls 90% of the VR market, followed by Pico with 4.5%, which is basically a Chinese reverse engineered Quest with ports of Quest games.

www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS49422922

Without FB there is no VR market and there is no scenario where Oculus could have managed to sell a similar amount of headsets if Facebook hadn’t bought them.

That being said, i sincerely hope Facebook loses this race and I am pretty terrified of the future when it comes to VR.

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