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Jumi, do games w Total War: Pharaoh Dynasties has quietly become one of the best historical Total War games ever

The article says it was already a great game before the big update…

njm1314, do games w Total War: Pharaoh Dynasties has quietly become one of the best historical Total War games ever

Very very quietly considering most of us have never heard of it.

hahattpro, do games w Total War: Pharaoh Dynasties has quietly become one of the best historical Total War games ever

Nah

verity_kindle, do games w Blizzard's World of Warcraft team has unionized
@verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works avatar

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of tankies.

aluminium, do games w Blizzard's World of Warcraft team has unionized

The Microsoft overlords really letting themselfes go these days.

CosmoNova,

Let’s not pretend like Blizz or Bethesda will see the end of this decade anyway. Their fate was sealed when they got bought. Still, unionizing was the best thing employees could hope for. Good for them!

Deceptichum,

Blizzard turned to shit long before MS acquired them.

GamingChairModel,

Let’s not pretend like Blizz or Bethesda will see the end of this decade anyway.

So if you’re management, you face a choice: try to dump everyone now in a reorganization on a moment’s notice, while it’s still Biden’s NLRB, or negotiate a CBA that probably bakes in substantial severance and job protections that will be expensive when they do try to reorganize for business reasons?

If it’s true that the workers were likely to get dumped within the decade, then negotiating protections now actually protects them, or forces management to pay a high cost.

MalReynolds, do games w Blizzard's World of Warcraft team has unionized
@MalReynolds@slrpnk.net avatar

GG ppl. Kudos.

EurekaStockade, do games w Blizzard's World of Warcraft team has unionized

Based. We need all the union influence we can get in tech, particularly game dev. Make the MBAs in suits sweat a bit.

Mautobu, do games w Blizzard's World of Warcraft team has unionized

That’s incredible. Excellent work!

b34k, do games w Blizzard's World of Warcraft team has unionized

WOW!

Qwaffle_waffle,

Yes, that is what they work on.

JoShmoe,

Thanks Qwaffle, that was the joke.

LostWanderer, do games w Blizzard's World of Warcraft team has unionized

Amazing, I love seeing the ripple of Bethesda’s own ‘Wall-to-Wall’ union and other studios making the effort is taking shape in other places in game development. Corpo scum needs to be forced to play nice, unions are so useful in the pursuit of that goal.

EncryptKeeper, do games w Bethesda Game Studios developers form 'wall to wall' union that includes artists, designers, and programmers

I wonder where a union draws its power from in an industry where there are so many people desperate for work right now.

Trade unions make sense because there’s such a shortage of skilled workers in total, much less scabs. How does a union for such a well known legacy game developer sustain itself in an environment where I bet scabs would be in abundance?

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Maybe for Bethesda specifically, there’s also a shortage of skilled work? I mean, they often hire modders and Creation Engine STILL uses flash (Starfield’s menus are .swf files),

Skullgrid,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

Creation Engine STILL uses flash (Starfield’s menus are .swf files),

YOOOOOO WHAT THE FUUUUCK.

Seriously, how hard is it to change the UI to use JS?? They really go through old ass Adobe documentation whenever they make a new menu with AS3???

I seriously hope it’s all AS and compiled to SWF, if they’re running some fucked version of Adobe Flash to make the swfs by hand, 💀

BaroqueInMind,

Seriously, how hard is it to change the UI to use JS??

JavaScript can do animations without wanting to commit suicide?

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

With some jquery, yes. Without it, suicide feels like a release

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I don’t know about the details, but I found that out while browsing the menu mods, as the Undelayed Menus, which removes the pointless delay in opening and closing of menus, comes with a bunch of .swf and that was when I thought to myself “You have to be fucking kidding”

Checking any other menu mod, it’ll be .swf files.

Crozekiel,

Yea, they probably have that one guy still there from the days creation engine was made that is required to be on staff for any future games to fix whatever archaic code they break. Get him on board with the union and Bethesda is probably held by the short hairs to do whatever they say.

UndercoverUlrikHD,
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

I wonder where a union draws its power from in an industry where there are so many people desperate for work right now.

With more than 450 employees, you can’t really replace all that on the fly.

SnotFlickerman, do games w Bethesda Game Studios developers form 'wall to wall' union that includes artists, designers, and programmers
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

In other news, Microsoft shuts down Bethesda game studios…

Bernie_Sandals,
@Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

Microsoft has actually voluntarily recognized a gaming company union before. It seems they prefer to voluntarily recognize the unions and then fight them during the contract phase, not sure exactly why they do it this way instead of trying to stonewall the first step like most companies.

Takumidesh,

Maybe they try are trying to avoid some additional scrutiny by letting the union exist?

Bernie_Sandals,
@Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

Oh this could definitely be it, let the union exist, get the good press, and then fuck them hard in contract negotiations.

Excrubulent,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

I think it might be more subtle than that, unions exist so that when negotiations happen they can fuck back, but we know Microsoft can strategise longer term than that. They pioneered “embrace, extend, extinguish”. Embracing a union then trying to infiltrate and turn it into a corporatised union is another version of that exact same play.

Etterra,

It’s more likely a cost benefit analysis. Fighting the Unions is lawyer expensive and PR expensive. Gamers are noisy after all, when riled up. Microsoft is evil, but also like Trump, they understand optics.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Companies can leverage CBAs to “fix” pay scales well below CPI or other metrics by forcing extensive negotiation as a way to sell down an agreement. Similarly, they can use agreements to create separate classes, for example: the SAG/AFTRA agreement for voice actors with all the Gen AI exemptions.

BetaBlake, do games w Bethesda Game Studios developers form 'wall to wall' union that includes artists, designers, and programmers

Maybe they can start making good games again

garretble,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

Nah man, I want the same tired design as we’ve had for the better part of twenty years!

5714,

I COULD EAT SWEETROLLS ALL MY LIFE

tetris11,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Presses jump button for no reason

Presses interact button to vault over obstacle

“God do I love these game mechanics”

misk,
@misk@sopuli.xyz avatar

How are the decisions taken by the highier-ups related to workers unionizing?

PunnyName, do games w Bethesda Game Studios developers form 'wall to wall' union that includes artists, designers, and programmers

Fuck yeah

TacticsConsort, do games w Bethesda Game Studios developers form 'wall to wall' union that includes artists, designers, and programmers
@TacticsConsort@yiffit.net avatar

Thank fuck for that. With any luck the better conditions will even give them the power to push back on management if management demands something stupid be added to a game.

In an industry as notoriously dreadful as game development, every bit of quality of life counts.

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