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shinratdr, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

I’d be careful to read too much into this. If they wanted it to be successful, it would have been Raid: Shadow Legends or Genshin Impact level promoted, especially with $140M sunk in dev.

This seems like they had no confidence in the finished product so they didn’t even bother to market it, just shat it out to app stores probably to meet contractual obligations and it will be gone soon.

Either that or there is some behind the scenes nonsense happening preventing it from being marketed. Think something like Will Smith having it in his contract that it has to release and giving him 25% of sales, for example.

But for something to cost that much and bomb that hard, it’s essentially impossible without them basically cutting their losses before launch and expecting it to fail. It’s the mobile game equivalent of the “lowest grossing movie”, basically something that was only released because it has to be, and not a true reflection of product quality. Like I’m sure it sucks, but is it THAT much worse than 99% of mobile trash? Probably not.

Katana314,

Any chance a lot of the money got funneled somewhere else and the actual game had some tiny budget?

FippleStone,

Definitely a non-zero chance, at the very least

IndustryStandard, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs

It is rewind time.

andrew_bidlaw, (edited ) do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

I would’ve loved a proper game using his I am Legend fame, but it seems like even publishers didn’t care about it.

AFallingAnvil,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

I am legend really loses something when mistitled

chemical_cutthroat, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like the church of scientology will need to find another cash cow.

norbert,
@norbert@kbin.social avatar

Hollywood has plenty of scientologists, it's wild.

VirtualOdour,

Kinda but numbers are way down, scientology is dying at the moment

Chet_Awesomelad, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs
@Chet_Awesomelad@kbin.social avatar

Lmfao the trailer doesn't even include any dialogue from Will Smith's character?! Imagine paying (I assume) millions of dollars to get an A-list Hollywood celebrity in your game and you don't even show them in your trailer!

Mr_Dr_Oink,

I watched a sunkey video for it, indont think there is any dialogue from will smiths character. Like they didnt bother to record it. There was one or two instances where he spoke, and it wasn’t will smith.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, so they just licensed Will Smith’s likeness?

They couldn’t have just done a character that looks sort of like Will Smith?

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

That’s what I thought it happened when I saw the dunkey video.

Zahille7,

He does sort of look like Will Smith.

He looks like a Chinese Will Smith.

Katana314,

What would be cringingly terrible, but entirely possible, is if Will DID record lines for his character, but content pipeline faults/laziness or programming errors mean it doesn’t play ingame.

I even feel like that same circumstance has happened before…

jjjalljs, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs

Also never heard of this game before.

The top user review on steam made it sound like awful pay to win gacha garbage though, so I’ll just move on.

antisuck, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs

Zombie: “Rawrrr” munch munch nom nom

Will: “Get my wife’s arm out of your fucking mouth!”

</low hanging fruit>

JoMiran, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs
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Ephera, do gaming w GTA 6 Production Reportedly Falling Behind, Rockstar Urges Staff To Return To Office To Avoid Delay

Ah, yes, love the productivity boost of being in a voice call, but now with all my colleagues quacking in the background.

Phegan, do games w Overwatch 2 story missions future uncertain after January layoffs (according to ex-devs)

Common Blizzard L

therealjcdenton, do gaming w Larian Studios Is Officially Done With The Baldur’s Gate Series

Too bad BG3 was boring, excited to see what they’ll do next

supernicepojo,

Unpopularopinion posting…. what do you normally like to play? I didnt enjoy BG3 either but I didnt care for the other Baldurs Gate games mostly because of the setting and characters.

Spacehooks,

It got better once I got plenty of mods. Broken bugs annoyed me like the painters house causing a million rolls or The invisible wall stopping me from crossing the bridge. Maybe I was super unlucky but it ruined the game for me.

therealjcdenton,

I like Deus Ex, in that game things are shown to you without some guy narrating your game telling you what is happening. And Deus Ex was released in the year 2000

supernicepojo,

I get the BG3 usage of narration due to the DnD setting and DMs narrating the story. Spoon feeding is not acceptable and is insulting to the player. I remember Deus Ex very well along with others like System Shock. The world they put you in can be confusing and unfamiliar at first glance and takes time to get involved in.

ActionHank,

As a long time CRPG fan, I was not into it at all. But expressing that you didn’t enjoy it is wrongthink, and the rabid fans will downvote you to oblivion.

therealjcdenton,

I speak the truth

qooqie, do gaming w GTA 6 Production Reportedly Falling Behind, Rockstar Urges Staff To Return To Office To Avoid Delay

I fail to feel any sympathy for higher ups in any company these days especially video games. “You are already working 80 hour weeks please do more so I can make more money”

DrDominate,
@DrDominate@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, but I have to feel sympathy for the devs here. Definitely need a game Dev Union strike like the writers strike did, I think. Though that’s difficult to pull off.

Katana314,

I definitely prefer the world in which we have unions and better worker rights, but I am starting to be aware of that world’s drawbacks.

Take a look at the great pyramids of Egypt. Take a look at classic anime, filled with intensely detailed high-framerate animation. These are fantastic works that, in some way, are made possible by people that are working far, far longer than a healthy work day for probably mediocre compensation. It’s almost lead to a zeitgeist where many games have not reached the height of the 360/PS3 era due to a mass of brain drain in development - thousands of really talented developers focusing on their life plan rather than passions.

In a utopia, one day we’d have high-paying employers that can truly willingly rally the greatest minds, but I think too many studios and publishers are growth/profit-minded to really get there.

jayWL,

“Worker’s rights suck because only extreme capitalist exploitation can create true art, like the video game I am entitled to play now now noww” - this fool right here

Katana314,

There’s awesome art made under fair working conditions, but I can’t imagine how you’d put together the kind that needs ludicrous hours. The kind that involves hundreds of thousands of hand drawn frames all in the same art style.

When it needs both creativity and intense devotion, it no longer becomes a 9-5 thing, even if you’re your own boss. Some people do that voluntarily but end up with carpal tunnel, sleep issues, etc. That has even been the case with a lot of Japanese creators I’ve seen.

jayWL,

honestly, if it’s forced under the threat of destitution, then fuck that kind of “art”

Katana314,

I generally agree with that, and yet we have a lot of it around that people lament being “not perfect” or demand more of faster; so there’s societal pressure to keep it up. It also feels terrible to have appreciated something amazing, but then afterwards learn its creation process essentially involved boiling kittens or something.

RogueBanana,

If it takes slavery to make a pyramid or an anime that I enjoy then I don’t need either of them. And no one should feel differently but that’s just my opinion.

Katana314,

I completely agree with that, which is why the first thing I said is I prefer a world where we don’t have those.

I can still admit the pyramids are nice to look at - but if I’m reminded of the kind of human cost put into creating them, I’d rather not have them.

RogueBanana,

I got that as well but my point was lack of wonders like pyramid and some media doesn’t even count as a drawback if we can abolish slavery, which still exist in a different form and name. They simply aren’t on the same balance.

Katana314,

I don’t really follow what “on the same balance” means; I guess it’s simply that the benefit far, far outweighs the negative? Or, that the negative should never be mentioned because it implies benefits behind something horrible?

I can marginally understand the latter. It’s a bit like trying to praise a piece of artwork on its own (because it’s a really amazing piece, and it could even inspire other people) while trying to set aside that its artist was a terrible person who deserves no recognition.

Part of the reason I bring it up is, I’d like to hear more vocalizations on whether these things should exist. Under a certain forward-thinking mindset, it could be that neither GTA 6 or Elder Scrolls 6 ever comes out - or they cost $100 and take 10 years, to adequately pay the developers and give them healthy time off. The math is never straightforward, of course, but it’s something of a thought experiment to get people to think about what they care about most.

RogueBanana,

Former actually, as you said pretty much every good thing had some negatives, it’s all a trade off on one way or another. But if it was between art and slavery, one outweigh the other heavily. And I feel the same for games as well, I don’t mind waiting and paying a higher price if I have to.

LwL,

Current anime is still largely made by underpaid and overworked animators, that really isn’t what changed…

MoonMelon,

Speaking as someone who’s worked inside a couple “AAA” studios, sympathy to a union has definitely increased in the past decade. It’s no coincidence that bonuses and profit sharing (a major part of compensation) have plummeted over that same time. As much as fans hate unambitious and venal design choices in recent games I assure them that devs hate them just as much or even more, since they ruin years of work. We have steadily decreasing feedback into these choices and are expected more and more to stick to our corner pushing pixels and writing code. Morale is probably the lowest I’ve ever experienced and mandatory RTO adds insult to injury.

The various QA Union success stories have lots of support on the dev side. However many people believe it’s impossible somehow, or that they personally would get laid off or have their job outsourced if there is even a hint of organizing. Especially the past 12 months, the bloodbath has workers terrified. Everyone is trying to keep their heads down as much as possible. I unfortunately don’t see this ending well unless funding loosens up and people can start small studios again. There was a wave of this during Covid but those studios are all dying now. It’s seriously depressing. I’m a refugee from the VFX world and I feel like I’m watching the sequel.

SnipingNinja, do gaming w Larian Studios Is Officially Done With The Baldur’s Gate Series

Unpopular opinion probably, but creators should be allowed to stop creating more stories inside a particular world. It’s like the issue we had with TV shows just getting the chewing gum treatment. Some worlds should have an end. Though maybe there can be spin-offs in this case, stories unrelated to the current cast in any way.

FiniteBanjo, (edited )

“But research shows nostalgia is how we milk the whales for every goddamn penny. GIVE US YOUR MONEY! GIVE US YOUR MONEY!

~games company CEO

MrBusiness,

The people of Wales have been deep in nostalgia for too long!

FiniteBanjo,

Oh lol I wrote wales instead of whales lmao

Malgas,

maybe there can be spin-offs in this case

They haven’t said they intend to stop making D&D games. And every D&D crpg in the last 20-odd years (since Torment, I think) has been set in the Forgotten Realms. So it seems highly likely that future games will be loosely related to BG, just without that specific title.

I would love to see them bring back some of the weird old settings, like Dark Sun, Spelljammer, or even Dragonlance. But I’m not holding my breath.

Honytawk, do gaming w Larian Studios Is Officially Done With The Baldur’s Gate Series

I was really hoping for some standalone campaigns in the same engine though

Ragnarok314159,

Same, but Hasbro is shit. I don’t blame Larian for running.

MrBusiness,

If Larian did a collab with Paizo on a Starfinder series I could die happy.

Ragnarok314159,

That would be so amazing.

DosDude, do gaming w Massive Pokémon Fan Game Site Taken Down Without Warning Via DMCA
@DosDude@retrolemmy.com avatar

Nintendo is on their way of becoming one of the worst companies of the year for the fans. Fucking hell…

Ledivin,

This is not even remotely new for Nintendo, and is exactly how they have always reacted to fan games 🤷‍♂️

TarantulaFudge,

That doesn’t make it any less vile.

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

It’d honestly be hilarious if all the creators just started rebranding their fan projects with Palworld Pals (or any other similar IP). Start shifting the discourse away from Pokemon. I’d love that.

MotoAsh,

it makes it more ridiculous that people who don’t like this kind of behavior support nintendo at all.

hakase,

Exactly. I’m proudly 3 years Nintendo-free, and I don’t see myself going back anytime soon.

Leg,

Once my Switch broke and the Steam Deck released, I decided I didn’t want to bother with Nintendo anymore. They’ve been killing their communities for far too long.

SteefLem,
@SteefLem@lemmy.world avatar

I saw a docu i think about smash bros. from nintendo, very cool docu serie btw, and the guys that organized the first tournaments got a letter or something that they where not allowed to organize such tournaments (mind you just fans playing the game in a bigger room nothing more) because, and here it comes, the game should not be played like that! Wtf.

(Ah yes The Smash Brothers 2013)

reric88,
@reric88@beehaw.org avatar

Nintendo has kind of always sucked as far as passionate fans are concerned. Their products are some of the best out there, sure, but they are ruthless.

Playing devil’s advocate, they’re just protecting their IP. Problem is they can’t spend resources or time figuring out who is or is not profiting from their work, so they just stamp out all the bugs in the house that get big enough to be noticed. I guess, I really don’t know.

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