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FrankFrankson, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

With all the shit happening with the production of GTA6 there is a decent chance RDR2 will be remembered as Rockstar’s last good game.

PP_BOY_,
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It’s possible and FWIW, that would be a damn fine game to be remembered for. RDR2 was phenomenal and made even better by the fact that online never really caught on so it could just exist as its own thing, unlike GTA V which is also a great game but also inseparable from GTO:O at this point that no one even bothers talking about the great single player of the game

calamitycastle, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

Is there a mod for this that cuts out all the fiddliness and just lets you do the fun stuff? I got maybe 10h into it but it was still teaching me new controls and mechanics… Idgaf about crafting, funding the camp and horse husbandry, I just want to ride around shooting bad hombres and do the story like rdr1… Is this just not the game for me?

TheRealKuni,

You don’t have to do any of that other stuff. Is ancillary. The game will reward you for it, but it’s completely unnecessary.

Hawk,

This is my sentiment with all recent Rockstar games.

Fantastic settings, great stories, but so much bloat. It’s cool that there’s so much stuff to do, but all the interruptions from actually playing the game are so tiresome.

comeonitsnotlike,

This was kinda me too, hence me stopped play it after some 20h in, and let it rest for half a year… recently I decided to give it another go, and when you get the hang of the huge amount of controls in this game, ie; when you can play “smooth” with the controls and the animations that come with them different button clicks, it’s such a game changer (at least for me). Not gonna lie, it took me about 30-40 hours to get comfortable and be productive/effective with how to play this game (these kind of games aren’t my goto though, I’m more of a Tetris guy, haha)

0485919158191, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales
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I’m still wishing for a remake!

Goodlucksil,

Is that a quote? Because RDR2 was released in 2018. It doesn’t need a remake (but could have one, see Resident Evil).

TheRealKuni,

A remake of RDR1?

0485919158191,
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I was thinking RDR2 but RDR1 would be cool too!

myfunnyaccountname,

RDR1 remake and an RDR3 announcement. But based on rockstar’s current track record. It will be 2035 before we see RDR3.

stiephelando,

Why would you need a RDR2 remake? It hasn’t aged that much

Twongo, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"
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i would’ve pirated it anyways

thelosers5o, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

Nintendo doesn’t report digital sales of their games… so RDR2 has sold more than Mario kart 8 physical sales. The impressive part is that it’s still likely so far behind Mario kart 8’s total sales count.

I am a bit surprised of the bad reporting in this article to not realize that distinction

Coelacanth, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales
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I want to finish it some day but I also kind of get sick of it quickly whenever I try to play it for extended periods and actually do main story missions.

Fucking around in the open world and fishing and hunting and all that is great though.

thenose,
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Soooo many cutscenes

TheRealKuni,

I was the same way. I suggest you do finish it though, especially if you’ve done some of the side missions along the way. I don’t want to spoil anything, but the way they work actions you made, missions you did, and choices you took into the end is really cool and it made me get all verklempt.

WolfmanEightySix, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"

I wasn’t gonna play it anyway cause I don’t have PlayStation, but now I’m not playing it with bells on.

TheRealKuni,

cause I don’t have PlayStation

Isn’t it also releasing on PC and Xbox?

Zer0_F0x,

Xbox yes, pc version comes later to boost console sales.

TheRealKuni,

Those bastards. Union busting and PC racism?

turdcollector69,

Rockstar PC ports are always dogshit for the first 5 years of their existence.

I’ll just wait for it to be $5 on sale when it’s finally stable.

killerscene,

i just bought gta 4. hopefully it runs okay

MurrayL,

If you mod it enough, sure. Out of the box it’s dismal.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Nah, I played it 2-3 years ago and it was totally fine. The only bug I recall was at the end with the helicopter sequence, and it was really frustrating. Basically, I had to set a framerate cap to 30 FPS to progress the game (60 might work too, but I needed a cap).

There’s one impactful decision soon after and then a cutscene that’s based on that decision, but otherwise that’s the end. So if you run into the bug and don’t want to fix it, just watch the ending on YouTube or something.

altkey,

Rockstar patched out a bunch of radio music they had time-limited licenses for. I don’t think you would notice that, though there are mods to bring them back. Performance-wise it only had problems with integrated graphic cards under Windows in my expirience. Haven’t tried it on Linux.

zecg,
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With proton it finally does.

frezik,

Xbox is failing at this point. I suspect Rockstar might have to bump the timeline of the PC version.

But I’ll still do what I did with GTA V and wait for it to hit bargain bins.

Lfrith,

Like 2 years later so probably 2030 or later with how GTA 6 keeps getting delayed.

comeonitsnotlike, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

I was really, really late into this game. Now, 70h in, I’m like “this is a very good game, dude!”. (makes my cheap ass, waiting for it to go to sale seem… well, I am poor, but I know I wouldn’t have been disappointed, paying full price for it, and I’m not even near completing it, yet…)

x00z, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"
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If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

Surp, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"

I’d tell you all to not buy GTA 6 in protest but so may people seem to just not give a fuck even if they say they do. Record sales will probably happen anyways.

MurrayL, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"

We already know the affected workers were using Discord to organise. My guess is they were discussing work issues there, and Rockstar jumped on that as an excuse to fire them (as it would constitute a breach of NDA).

CosmoNova,

That was really clumsy on the side of the workers. Discord is the last App I would use to organize a union. What were they even thinking?

On the other hand that probably means they use discord for literally everything including communication within Rockstar, albeit unofficially. So yeah if their employer had any consistency in firing people over NDAs they would probably have to fire most of the staff.

MurrayL,

Official internal chat will be either Slack or MS Teams. Using any unauthorised app to discuss matters relating to the business would be a contract violation.

Realistically, game devs do this all the time in private chats with colleagues that happen outside work, both online and in person. But of course R* either never knows about those or chooses to overlook it.

In this case, I suspect the fact they were unionising was the reason they actually took action on it. It’s not about consistency, it’s about having an excuse to fire these people.

BlameTheAntifa,

If you are organizing a union NEVER EVER use company controlled channels to communicate about it. This is organizing 101.

At the same time, make sure that whatever you do use it private and secure. Union reps will warn you about how companies spy, and it is not paranoia.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

Yeah. I’ve never worked anywhere that the staff didn’t have side channels for socializing out of work that inevitably ended up getting kinda borderline with some discussions. It’s against company policy and it is a problem but it is mostly ignored because good employees know where to draw the line and the orgs that own those third party chats tend to not be competitors.

And it leaves people open to stuff like this. “Well, you probably talked about your work schedule or compensation which we consider Office Use Only so you violated corporate policy and are eligible to be fired”

As for “Well, they should have used matrix or signal!”: Maybe. But if you’ve ever tried to convince a friend group to install another client then you know that is a much bigger struggle than convincing people to engage in collective bargaining.

But also? While it is possible rockstar/take2 just guessed, the more likely outcome is that someone narced. At which point it doesn’t actually matter if everyone was on Discord or Matrix or Signal or whatever.

Natanael,

You’re allowed to use independent channels to organize unions, etc, BUT MAKE SURE THEY’RE SECURE

rockSlayer,

I’ve formed a union within the industry. The trick is a balance between meeting with workers and security for the OC. In my campaign, we used discord as well to be a space to connect with as many people as possible outside of work. We also used signal for the OC to discuss the actual organizing. NDAs are limited only to the direct work. You can legally talk about workplace issues though. IWGB (UK equivalent to CODE-CWA) aren’t amateurs, they very likely trained the OC on all of this.

AnarchistArtificer,

What does OC mean in this context?

rockSlayer,

The Organizing Committee. They do all the actual organizing and agitating.

danc4498,

Lesson here is when you’re organizing, you have to be careful as fuck that you are not breaking any rules. They are tracking your every move.

turdcollector69,

It’s more that until you’re ready to strike you have to remain invisible.

It doesn’t matter if you do everything right, they’ll either lie or frame you.

They can’t counter what they don’t know about.

rockSlayer,

Talking about issues surrounding work outside of the workplace is not an NDA violation.

MurrayL,

In this scenario I’m assuming they were talking about project specifics, which would absolutely be covered.

I’m not sure about other industries, but in games NDAs and similar restrictive contract clauses tend to be extremely strict and often quite broad.

rockSlayer,

I know, I’ve helped successfully form a large union within the video games industry. NDAs can only cover the work itself.

allowed:

  • “I was moved off a high profile project because my manager hates me”
  • “The company is illegally withholding wages”
  • “I was put on a PIP for barely missing my metrics”
  • “The CEO said in a meeting that they want to use AI to replace QA”

not allowed:

  • “Wanna hear about this cool bug I found today?”
  • “Project XYZ launches on the 30th”
  • “Let’s talk about the financials from that all hands meeting before the quarterly report”
sugar_in_your_tea,

“The CEO said in a meeting that they want to use AI to replace QA”

This sounds like it would be on the edge if the company is publicly traded and there’s a chance that information wasn’t communicated to investors, especially for something like video games where launch bugs could make or break initial impression and thus sales.

“Wanna hear about this cool bug I found today?”

This is probably fine if it’s unreleased and has been fixed. It’s probably not fine if it’s in a released product and hasn’t been fixed.

rockSlayer,

Trust me on this one, we used similar organizing techniques for issues like these. The line is thin, but lined with landmines.

sugar_in_your_tea,

For sure, definitely be extra careful when organizing outside of the ways sanctioned by the company. In fact, I recommend not keeping any records about anything that goes on in the company, and keep union discussions about the union itself. If you want to recruit people, talk about how you’d like the relationship between the union and company to be, not about things the company is doing that you don’t like, because there’s a huge risk of giving the company a valid reason to fire you.

I’m more talking about what’s generally protected legally and what’s not. Again, if you’re looking to form a union, don’t get anywhere near that line.

BlameTheAntifa,

That is exactly what happened. All corporations operate like this. They know what they are doing is illegal, so they just use words to warp reality however they like. It’s the Republican strategy.

Jumpropegazing, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"

this is not very rockstar of them

theoneandonlyeggboi, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"

Bullshit.

korendian, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"

Yea, it’s just a coincidence that all the fired workers were involved in union organization. Sure.

zecg, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"
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Agent_Karyo,

You should post this separately!

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