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Brewchin, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

I think it’s cultural differences. In the west, we abhor pay to win and predatory aspects. But in Korea, China and other countries in that region, players demand it.

So then it comes down to which market region you’re targeting. If you’re not a NA/EU mobile developer, how do you choose? 🤷‍♂️ Can’t keep everyone happy.

Sproutling, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

Yep, getting people to pay $40-60 bucks for a mobile game is basically impossible, and as a result the business model is either F2P or $3-5 bucks with egregious monetization to earn back the costs.

Katana314, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

Not that it succeeded long term, but I salute Apple Arcade’s venture on this. It’s a subscription service that aimed to highlight iPhone games that had no monetization, and were usually small indie games with a fun idea.

v4ld1z, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

Shoutout to Slay the Spire, Balatro, and Slice & Dice. They all cost a bit (around 10€) but are excellent ports of the originals and among the best mobile games. Slice & Dice even started out as a mobile game and was ported to PC later.

llii,

Also Peglin.

hopefull_cottonball,

Vampire survivors and among us are free on mobile.

Eyck_of_denesle,

Add craft the world to the list too

ThunderclapSasquatch,

Cultists Simulator has a mobile port too

rockerface,

Adding Dead Cells to the list. Handles surprisingly well with touchscreen

OlPatchy2Eyes,

Pixel Dungeon

USNWoodwork,

Meteorfall

LavenderDay3544,

Also Minecraft and Stardew Valley.

xor,

Plus mini metro, terraria, don’t starve, wild rift, and TFT (last two are free to play, and only have cosmetic transactions)

v4ld1z,

Wild Rift is my poor man’s League (although the skins are way more expensive than on PC). Don’t have a PC to play League on and WR is a good, chill alternative. Plus, I can play with my SO

Kolanaki, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?
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Because people seem to lap that garbage up enough for it to be profitable to make barely functionable shit, as cheaply as possible.

BruceTwarzen, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

Making a good game is hard. Making brainrot garbarge is easy, and people play it just as much. So what is the point? I knew a guy who was cheap as fuck. I didn’t know his girlfriend as well, but people said she was pretty much the same. Once i remember he made fun off someone spending like 60 dollars on a video game and he said he’s not a “gamer”. A few month later we talked about some video games that we liked and i didn’t really include him in that conversation because of what he said before.

He chimed in and said that he’s been playing clash of clans since release. Now i hardly even know what coc is, except mobile pay to win garbage (imo) so without even thinking, i asked if that game is even playable without spending money. He said oh no, he spends around 500 buchs a month. We were all shocked a bit, and he realised how ridiculous that is and immediately threw his girlfriend under the bus saying that she spends at least 1k a month for candy crush.

LANIK2000, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

There are plenty of good mobile games, the problem is none of em get promoted on Google Play, finding em is like a fucking treasure hunt.

ch00f, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

Most mobile game developers just want to attract whales. People who spend thousands of dollars in their app. They don’t care about everyone else because they don’t make any money off anyone else.

For some games, 20% of players spend $1800 or more a year. One of those people spent $90k.

So if your game sucks for everyone else, it’s not a big loss.

Good_morning,

I wish I had 90k to just throw away

Valmond,

Take a loan!

Psythik, (edited ) do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

CoD mobile is good… when played in an Android emulator on PC. It’s basically CoD: Greatest Hits, and it’s way better than Black Ops 6 (or any console/PC CoD, for that matter). All the best maps from the old games are there. Takes me back to the days of MW1 & 2 on the XBOX 360.

The only issues is that it takes some tweaking and the right emulator (Gameloop) to get a steady 120+ FPS, and it can take dozens of matches before game starts pairing you with other mouse and keyboard players (instead of just bots or controller/touchscreen users), but once you’ve established your rank, it becomes ton of fun cause you’re not just destroying everyone you match against. It becomes a legit challenge.

WhyFlip, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

Because dweebs like you keep throwing money at garbage.

dustyData, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

Have you ever sat in front of a casino’s slot machine. They are also trash, awful and disgusting. But they’re also engineered with the worst dark pattern psychology to manipulate any human being that sits on it to keep playing and be so addictive that people will burn their money just to keep playing. The qualities of fun, and additive are independent of each other. A game can be very addictive and really bad at the same time. Unlike slot machines, they have the advantage of constantly sitting in your pocket and going with you everywhere you go.

HeyJoe,

I played a new gacha game 2 nights ago that was so overloaded with crap to do I found myself not even playing the game but just clicking the stupid rewards buttons for everything i “accomplished” and I hated it. I continued to play for another 4 hours… thankfully, once I closed the game, I removed it. I also didn’t pay a dime outside my wasted time.

borari,

Idk. I got extraordinarily drunk in Vegas, put a twenty in a dollar slot machine, thought I would get 20 pulls, pulled once, lost all my money, them never touched a slot machine again.

USSEthernet,

Lmao this was my experience as well. What a waste. At least I know casinos are not on my list of things to do when I go places now.

iAmTheTot, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?

There are good mobile games, but you typically have to pay for them.

misk, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?
@misk@sopuli.xyz avatar

If you own an iPhone just get Apple Arcade through Apple One, it’s really worth it if you game on your phone. No predatory monetisation, regular self-contained games, plenty of high quality titles.

BossDj,

Or do the trial, find some games you like, then buy them for a couple bucks when the trial ends

misk,
@misk@sopuli.xyz avatar

Most of the games in AA that I played have been reworked to remove monetisation while their regular App Store versions offer freemium model only.

mp3, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Small screen, combined with poor/touch screen controls, and wanting to make money no matter what by pushing ads everywhere because no one wants to pay $10+ for a mobile software.

The only time I consider a mobile a game is when there is an ad-free option available.

Peffse,

I still miss my Xperia Play. It’s been over 10 years… Still my favorite phone.

ADTJ,

Sony really screwed over the play after promising Ice Cream Sandwich

IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION, do games w Why are most mobile games trash?
@IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world avatar

what shocks me is that nintendo never made some new pokemon games in their old GBA or DS style. it would be perfectly suited to phone limitations and expectations and there is a huge potential market for that style of game.

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

If pokemon got a true mobile port it would have instantly cut their DS/3DS (and maybe Switch) hardware sales in half. Never going to happen

Bezier,
@Bezier@suppo.fi avatar

Just switch, 3DS is discontinued.

ADTJ,

Now I’m picturing a pokémart with micro transactions to buy items and I’m glad this doesn’t exist

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