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BurgerBaron, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
@BurgerBaron@piefed.social avatar

Never liked this lumping of everyone into oversimplified "gamers" as if it's anything different besides conservatives who happen to play games.

It is always conservatives. In any hobby.

thatKamGuy,

There’s a reason that particular cohort is mockingly referred to as capital-G Gamers^TM^.

Zahille7,

Exactly.

ano_ba_to,

Not just any hobby, any country. You think this country still uses fax machines and are a bunch of racists? You think that country doesn’t believe in vaccines and elected a moron? You think that country is committing a genocide?

NaibofTabr, do gaming w Can we talk about the Roblox situation?

Roblox also exploits children directly for labor:

Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers

Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.

It’s basically their business model.

fxomt, do games w what are in you're top 3 favourite games of all time?

My top 3 choices are (in no particular order)

  • Disco Elysium
  • Outer Wilds
  • Fallout New Vegas

I know these are very bland choices, but these games had a huge impact on me. I’ve only played disco Elysium recently, but it truly is a masterpiece. FNV gives me warm memories of [the good parts, at least.] of my childhood, and outer wilds… I don’t even really know how to describe it.

This isn’t an exhaustive list by any means, and there are some other games that affected me on the same level, but I could only pick 3 :)

BurgerBaron,
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I adored Disco Elysium while playing it, but the ending felt kinda rushed/soured for me so it didn't quite hit top 3. However, the book Sacred And Terrible Air by Robert Kurvitz that was fan translated to English semi recently helped a great deal with unanswered questions about the world the game takes place in that I had which really helped brighten my overall opinion of the game in retrospect.

The book isn't very approachable I think with almost zero exposition, so it actually helps to have played the game first.

skribe, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?
@skribe@aussie.zone avatar

KSP2.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

Surprised this didn't come up sooner to be honest.

JPSound, do gaming w Haven't we forgotten someone?

Middle-child syndrome.

Also, this meme makes me want to pirate some Nintendo games. Off to illegally download some roms from 1992. Good time to sell some stock bc as soon as they realized I downloaded SNES Mario All-stars, the market value is gunna crash so hard.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

How is Nintendo going to feed its family now?

JPSound,

In the words of our billionaire elite overlords, “fuck them kids!”

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

You just triggered Epstein’s bones

aoidenpa,

Nintendo is the surname of the founder? Didn’t know that.

JPSound,

First and second name, actually. Nintendo Nintendo was the reason why one of the Mario brothers is named Mario. Mario Mario is based on Nintendo Nintendo.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Fightcade

darksiderbun, do gaming w Heroic motivation

Didn’t Kirby destroy entire planets or something just because he got woken up from a nap?

Neondragon25,

To be fair, Kirby is a literal eldritch god. So only destroying a few planets is still probably on the good side for him.

ProfessorProteus,
@ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world avatar

He also does it for sport! To be fair it’s not complete destruction, but still

LuaPurpa,
@LuaPurpa@lemmy.world avatar

Kirby 🤝 Beerus

Gt5, do games w Pop it in your calendars

I feel like I’m the only person on the planet who thought Subnautica was boring and tedious. It was definitely not for me

Duamerthrax,

It’s a popular streamer game, which means long gaps where nothing happens.

TheLeadenSea,

No, sane here. I also didn’t find its gameplay loop fun, although the graphics were incredible.

Edit: I meant ‘same’, but I’m leaving it.

merc,
@merc@sh.itjust.works avatar

Seeing the underwater world was so much fun. I got it to play in VR and only did that a couple of times, but I completed the original and Below Zero because the exploration and underwater scenes were just so good.

FellowEnt,

Couldn’t get into the main game. In VR, however, just exploring was an unforgettable experience.

cynar,

I want to love it in VR. It’s taking me a long time to train my stomach to accept it however. It gives me SERIOUS motion sickness in VR.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

There’s an improved motion control VR mod now for it now btw

github.com/Okabintaro/SubmersedVR?tab=readme-ov-f…

cynar,

I’ll check it out, next time I get a chance to fire it up. Unfortunately, I hate the teleport mechanism of vr games. I love hurtling through the water. Unfortunately, that also makes me motion sickness. I’m slowly training myself out of it, but it takes time.

Blackmist,

It’s just a shame it’s such a half arsed VR conversion. Way too much UI going on for my tastes.

ProdigalFrog,

I also wasn’t a fan, mainly due to how often you need to resupply to stay alive. You get a very small window of opportunity to do actual exploration before you need to go find more food and water, on top of gathering a bunch of other materials.

I liked parts of it, but ultimately just got frustrated with the tedious parts and bailed.

cynar,

That phase does end. The various vehicles allowed for exploration without returning to the surface, as do deep sea bases.

At the same time, I fully understand why you feel that way. The crunch is required for the fear to be meaningful, it’s not everybody’s cup of tea.

Goodeye8,

I don't know how far you made it but if you make the biggest vehicle you can add planters inside the vehicle which significantly cuts down the need to restock. That said in the end game the survival elements become so trivialize they end meaningless busywork even if you have planters.

ProdigalFrog,

I did build the big ship, but I don’t think I used the planters effectively. I just remember needing to frequently recharge it and repair it.

Balinares,

Nah, that’s valid. I loved it to bits, myself, but what made me love it was how adroitly I felt it curated feelings of dread and sincere awe as I explored deeper and deeper; and that’s highly subjective. I hope you’re finding as much joy in your own fave games as I did in Subnautica!

Texas_Hangover,

Same here.

CidVicious,
@CidVicious@sh.itjust.works avatar

That whole survival crafting genre seems very hit or miss to me, and I’ve noticed that people liking one game in the genre is a very poor predictor of whether they’ll like another one. Subnautica, Don’t Starve, Minecraft, and Ark are all theoretically the same genre but very different games.

However I’ve also seen a lot of people say that Subnautica was the one that clicked for them. I think the story and progression was big for a lot of people.

burntbacon,

people liking one game in the genre is a very poor predictor of whether they’ll like another one

I love survival/building games, and so do most of my friends. Even the terrible ones are usually fun. So I’d posit that it’s the opposite with a caveat: liking one for more than its story means you’ll enjoy the others.

I think it’s more indicative of games/hobbies as a whole than the survival genre specifically. People who love the adrenaline of a motorcycle may not enjoy the thrill of going down a mile high mountain on two thin sticks, IF it was the rumble of the engine beneath them that they actually enjoyed. If it was the rush of the speed though (or in the case of survival/building games, the exploration and struggle to stay alive and not lose your stuff), then they’ll likely enjoy the other adrenaline sports.

OddMinus1,

I found it to be tense and interesting while playing. But looking back, I can’t really put my finger on what made it that way. I swam around and gathered resources to build boats, make food and fresh water - I can’t really ser what the big drive was. But I certainly loved it enough to finish it, which is rare for me regarding most games.

Zorque,

It was very much not an action oriented game. It was more about building resources and exploration. I can definitely see it not appealing to large swatches of the gaming population. Especially those used to the modern spate of action rpgs.

Blackmist,

I just can’t get into it. I can see there’s a progress path of stuff to do, but it feels like there’s grind to get anywhere.

Evotech,

That grind is also why you actually feel like you are losing something if you die, and consequently makes you anxious about going deeper.

TabbsTheBat, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

The steam controller wasn’t for me (the lack of a 2nd stick and a d-pad to a lesser extent were dealbreakers for me), but I do hope valve releases a standalone steamdeck style controller :3 we had those leaks and whatnot a while back, and it certainly has everything I’d want

atomicpoet,

Yes, that’s the other thing: the trackpad D-pad is not as good as a button D-pad.

TabbsTheBat,
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

I love the touchpad as an auxiliary input, and in that regard it does a lot more than a d-pad, but for any games where you want it as a primary input it wasn’t optimal, yeah… currently I use a ds4 controller and having a touchbar on that is great with steam input tho, cause it can just do so much (looks at my 500 minecraft mods with all the keybinds), it can be annoying sometimes accidentally hitting the sticks cause of how it’s positioned tho (and also no paddles) so it would still be cool to see a steam deck type variant controller featuring the touchpads and all the other inputs you’d expect :3

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

Same here. The thing was neat and innovative, but missing the dpad and right stick really brought it down significantly imo. The steam deck got it right - the trackpads are incredibly useful when used as a supplementary feature, but rarely as a full replacement for traditional inputs. Plus the form factor. Dear god the thing was MASSIVE. Incredibly uncomfortable to use and such an awkward shape.

Here’s hoping the leaks come to fruition, because a 2.0 version based on the Deck would be 10/10.

Buffalobuffalo,

I use a steam controller everyday and it feels like my first handjob every time. Given, or received.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

What a way with words LOL

I respect it but it’s not for me. It feels very defined for one hand size in particular, thing gives me cramps.

TropicalDingdong,
@TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world avatar

The steam deck controller addresses all of these issues. I was literally an anti-controller (wasd gang) zealot and the steam deck controller converted me because I can literally play city skylines in bed now…

TabbsTheBat,
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

Yeah :3. The steam deck layout honestly looks really good, and if valve does release a controller featuring everything it has it’s probably gonna be a buy from me

At the moment most of the controllers on the market would require either giving up the features my current one has, shelling out hundreds of euros for a couple of extra buttons, or literally getting the same deal, a steam deck style controller would offer quite a bit more and it would hopefully be more reasonably priced than the “pro” controllers

dualpad,

Unfortunately for steam controller users the touchpads were an downgrade in size, shape, and location for those who liked using them as their main inputs. So even people like me who use dual touchpads on the Steam Controller opted for joysticks on the Deck, since they weren’t satisfied with the touchpad experience.

Which was unfortunate, since there’s lot of options for dual joystick controllers but I’m still searching for a Steam Controller upgrade.

tankfox,

I’m glad at least someone else here had that feeling. I ended up not liking mine at all and sending it back. I couldn’t get used to the pads at all even though I wanted to like it a lot, maybe it’s just my hands. I use my steam deck all the time, first an led and now an oled, and I can count the times I’ve used the trackpads on it effectively on one hand.

tias, do gaming w What are signs that the game devs aren't gamers themselves?

Long cutscenes that don’t let you save or pause when anything comes up that forces you to leave the keyboard or just focus elsewhere.

“Control” was the worst wrt this (or was it Quantum Break? Maybe both). I was just about to go to bed when it showed me a “cutscene” that went on for more than 30 minutes. Turned out later that you could actually go back to watch it again afterwards, but there was no indication of that at the time.

MentalEdge,
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That would have been Quantum Break. I don’t recall Control having any one cutscene that long.

But Quantum Break did the whole video-game/TV-series hybrid media thing, and was full of “episodes” that were essentially 30-minute cutscenes.

marighost,
@marighost@piefed.social avatar

I'm playing through Control now and haven't encountered that (fun game btw!), so methinks it's Quantum Break you're thinking of.

I agree with you, though. Sometimes I have to step away for whatever reason and end up missing something because I can't pause.

bjoern_tantau,
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The Steam Deck is great in that regard. Just put it to sleep.

evening_push579,

Same with the Switch and easily one of the top features. Laundry done? Sleep mode. SO asks something? Sleep mode. Done pooing? Sleep mode.

TheGreenWizard, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact
SaharaMaleikuhm,

From the mind of the one Free Man

Coelacanth, do games w Starting today, Heroic Games Launcher is indexing their Discord server
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Not sure this is the ideal long term solution but anything that combats Discord’s status of being an absolute information black hole is good.

LocoLobo, do gaming w Shower thought: Valve could do the ultimate boss-move this year

OP clearly overestimates how many people would use SteamOS or any other Linux distro for that matter. Most users are casual gamers these days, they are not changing OS just because there is a forced Windows update.

princessnorah,

I don’t know, I think you’re clearly underestimating how many people would install Valve’s OS. The number of people with a Steam Deck that don’t know that what it’s running is a Linux distro is pretty high. The other piece to this is that it’s not just a forced Windows update for a huge chunk of users, it’s a forced device upgrade. Valve offering a free upgrade that negates the need to buy new hardware would absolutely capture people’s attention.

LocoLobo,

Yes and no, people can still use win10, it just won’t receive patches anymore. And in this particular case, my best guess is, that most people would rather use and outdated OS for a long time, rather than changing the OS altogether. Not every game is on steam, also not every non game programm is easily available for Linux. Humans are lazy.

princessnorah,

I don’t disagree in principle, but from what I’ve heard the full screen “buy a new computer” pop-ups are pretty bloody annoying!

teawrecks,

You’re forgetting that valve can also drop support for EOL versions of windows, which so far they have.

LocoLobo,

True, but for example for Win7 they dropped support last year I think. So quite some time.

teawrecks,

I think that was them drawing a line on eol windows. They cut both 7 and 8.1 at the same time. Could just be the policy now.

Part of me wants them to take the opportunity to push people to switch to Linux, the other part of me thinks that will be perceived no differently from msft’s badgering about win11.

LocoLobo,

That would be quite the power move, but unfortunately Steam doesn’t hold that much power alone, I think. There are still enough games that are not on Steam. As of today , Microsoft is the biggest games publisher (with Bethesda, Blizzard, Obsidian, ID, Mojang etc. belonging to them) and there are also giants like LoL or Fortnite.

teawrecks,

It’s hard to say. I agree, it seems like the MAU data for each of League and Fortnite is roughly the same as MAU for all of Steam (which is nuts). Of course there’s no way to know how much overlap is there. Still, both of these titles would be a hard stop for people deciding whether to switch to Linux.

As for msft themselves though, ironically I don’t know what titles they have that keep players on windows. Battle.net works on Linux, Minecraft Java ed works on Linux (not sure about bedrock ed compatibility or player count, but afaik most of those players are on non-PC platforms), all their zenimax titles are sold through steam and work great on Linux. CoD might be their biggest hold.

I disagree on number of games, but I agree on player count. The number of PC games that are not on steam (or don’t work on linux) is tiny these days. But the number of PC gamers who don’t need steam, or need something that doesn’t run on linux is probably still quite high. Still, even if valve was able to push a few % of PC gamers to Linux, that would be huge. We’re currently at 2% on Linux in steam surveys. I could see a power move by valve around win10 eol bringing that closer to 10%.

LocoLobo,

Yeah that’s true, I think the biggest hurdle are games that use anticheat that don’t work on Linux, which are afaik usually multiplayer games. So they might be able to pull gamers, that only play Singleplayer games.

bloup,

This isn’t about people not wanting to use Windows 11 this is about people not wanting to purchase a new computer

Honytawk,

They don’t have to purchase anything if they just keep using an unsupported OS.

Most people don’t care enough to change.

Shayeta,

They are if they can’t afford a new computer.

JohnnyCanuck,
@JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca avatar

Windows 10 won’t just stop working. I still see businesses rocking Windows Vista occasionally.

teawrecks,

No one is trying to play games on those vista machines, though. Valve pulled steam support for win 7 and 8.1 over a year ago because they were EOL. If they also pull support from win 10 once it’s EOL, then people will need to make a change to keep playing their games. If msft refuse to support existing hardware with win11, then many people will be forced to choose between buying a new laptop/PC, or trying Linux.

Rose,

They won’t stop supporting 10 unless its use drops significantly. They’d not shoot themselves in the foot.

Vinny_93, do games w What is the most "Indie Feeling" game that is definitely NOT from an Indie Studio?

Ori and the Blind Forest/Will of the Wisps?

Made by a smaller studio but published by Microsoft

Azrael,
@Azrael@lemmy.ca avatar

Abso-fricking-lutely!

mic_check_one_two,

That was my very first thought. It has all of the indie vibes, but was published by the OG evil tech company.

psx_crab, do gaming w Papers, please.

Booth guy press the “detain” button.

nek0d3r, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)

In addition to the mentions that this isn’t encrypted, doesn’t have video chat, etc, it’s also difficult to set up with little documentation and an enormous tech stack. They also had some recent controversy about open source licensing that gives me a bit of worry. I decided to go with a self-hosted synapse server.

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