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lowleveldata, do gaming w Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty Review Thread

We have big reviews for DLCs now? Or is this a special case?

Stillhart,

This is an “expansion” not a “DLC” according to CDPR. It’s a lot bigger than your normal DLC. Up to you if you think that’s enough.

I think it’s also a chance for them to try to find some redemption. Journalists have a lot to sink their teeth into with the whole meta story of the game so I think that might have added some encouragement.

RaivoKulli,

How is a paid DLC any sort of redemption for shit that should’ve been in the game from the get-go? If it was free it would easier to understand but it seems like it’s 30€?

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

It’s 30 hours of new content with a new area, story, and characters?

The actual 2.0 update is free and deploying for all players, regardless of whether you own Phantom Liberty or not.

RaivoKulli,

You pay to get new content? What a true redemption arc lmao

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

Yes, it’s new content with a price tag associated with it.

If you don’t want the new content, enjoy the fixes and new game systems got free.

RaivoKulli,

It’s not a redemption arc to get (years later) fixes to stuff that should’ve worked at launch and game systens that were advertised to be there from the get-go.

Idk if I just hold those companies to higher standard but this doesn’t redeem them in my eyes. This just means they weren’t as dogshit as they could’ve been if they just bailed. But they still lied and released a shit product. That shouldn’t have happened in the first place.

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

Sure, the fixes should have been there earlier.

Claidheamh, (edited )

If everything was there from the get-go, how would there be a redemption arc? There would be nothing to redeem.

A redemption arc is when someone or something starts bad or reviled, and eventually comes to be seen through other eyes. Looks like that applies to CDPR and Cyberpunk to me.

RaivoKulli,

Redemption arc would mean from bad to good. Not dogshit to slightly less dogshit. Maybe if they had given the DLC for free as an apology or something, but just fixing some of the issues years later isn’t a redemption arc.

Claidheamh,

Well I’m having plenty of fun with it, and I haven’t even installed 2.0. If it was a release from this year it would be my second favourite after Baldur’s Gate. So I strongly disagree with your dogshit assertion. If the DLC and 2.0 make it better then it’s for sure a redemption arc. And from the looks of OpenCritic, seems like a very universal feeling.

RaivoKulli,

I’m talking about the company. They’re dogshit for releasing it in the state they did and slightly less so for ultimately fixing at least some issues and giving some of the promised features.

If the DLC and 2.0 make it better then it’s for sure a redemption arc

Not even close. Especially with the DLC, how would making paid DLC in any way redeem the company?

Stillhart,

“Slightly less dogshit”? Have you played 2.0 yet? Have you even played 1.6? Doesn’t sound like it. They put in a ton of fixes an QoL in the last two years and this latest patch is just one more FREE update. They didn’t “fix some of the issues years later”. They fixed most of the issues over the last two years and now are providing optional new content. The redemption is that after fixing all that, the new content is apparently free from the issues that plagued the original launch.

And it’s VERY clear from the way you’re talking that nothing they do could redeem them in your eyes. I’m pretty sure they didn’t shit in your breakfast cereal so you can stop acting like they did. It was one bad launch, not a pattern of bad games or anything like that. And they worked hard to remedy the issue. Just because you want MORE free stuff than the content they’ve added in the last two years, doesn’t make them a bad company. Kinda makes you sound bad tho…

RaivoKulli, (edited )

I’m just going to quote another comment I wrote about this for starters

I’m talking about the company. They’re dogshit for releasing it in the state they did and slightly less so for ultimately fixing at least some issues and giving some of the promised features.

If the DLC and 2.0 make it better then it’s for sure a redemption arc

Not even close. Especially with the DLC, how would making paid DLC in any way redeem the company?

I’m not giving them kudos for finally fixing stuff and bringing stuff they should’ve had in the first place. Much less calling bare minimum like that a “redemption arc”.

And it’s VERY clear from the way you’re talking that nothing they do could redeem them in your eyes.

They bungled the false advertising, hype and overall the state the game was in launch so bad that it sure is hard. Then again, all big gaming companies are dogshit like that and I haven’t seen anyone else coming back either. And people keep forgiving them, buying their games and nothing changes. CDPR just had a bigger fall than the rest, coming off the Witcher 3 hype and having created the massive hype for 2077.

It was one bad launch, not a pattern of bad games or anything like that.

It was a massive overhyping and misleading of customers. Then releasing the game in a such a bad state. I just don’t like it when any company does that,

Kinda makes you sound bad tho…

I’m devastated.

learningduck, (edited ) do games w Lies of P - Discussion

I just finished the 2nd boss. This game feel funny to me. I played Soul Like with parrying consecutively (Sekiro , Wo Long, Jedi Survivor), so my instinct is to parry, but not seeing stagger bar and hearing people calling it Blood Bourne cause me to try to dodge primarily instead. Hey, it got me this far.

I will try playing it with parrying and see if it make my life easier. Those damn charging enemy with their multi hit drill require parrying on every tick. I’m not gonna Daigo that shit lol.

I think this game need Hanbei to teach the player basic. Those punching bags are so useless.

jeeva, do games w Lies of P - Discussion

I was really interested, but heard that they added Denuvo after the review window, which is somewhat offputting.

Xylinna,
@Xylinna@lemmy.world avatar

I read the same thing but performance still seems to be solid.

WanderingCrow, do gaming w I am so pumped for Phantom Liberty and Cyberpunk 2077 v2.0!

I played on my launch ps4 system. Had to reformat the drive to resolve some hard locks when loading. But goddamn when I finally got into it, I found the game so enjoyable. The quests, and stories hidden in some the corners were great and detailed. My only true complaint was a bit of a shallow open world experience (wanted mini games, better cop interactions etc.) Once I cranked up the difficulty and really loved the combat. Even doing leveling loops just fragging or slicing apart groups was satisfying. I cannot wait to load it up on pc with PL and see how far it’s come.

PrettyLights, do games w Lies of P - Discussion

Hold the parry button rather than clicking it quickly. When you first hold the parry button is when the window starts, and it lasts a few frames while held. This works for perfect guard as well.

You’ll still need to time it properly, but holding it longer should have a noticeable improvement in the consistency of your parries.

finthechat, do gaming w I am so pumped for Phantom Liberty and Cyberpunk 2077 v2.0!
@finthechat@kbin.social avatar

Cyberpunk 2077 didn’t have the best launch (lol)

Lmao, even.

I'm ready for PL. I just finished re-watching Edgerunners last night in one go. It was just as good this time around as it was when I first saw it a year ago.

Although both games launched to controversy, there is no real comparison between Starfield and Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk is flat out better.

thingsiplay, do gaming w I am so pumped for Phantom Liberty and Cyberpunk 2077 v2.0!
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@Stillhart I was still waiting. One of the reasons is that I wanted to build a new computer (which happened last week) and waiting until the game got fixed a lot. Both happened. Now I am waiting for the launch of Phantom Liberty in a few days, as the base game will be dropped in price again. That's when I go into the game for the first time. And it will be the best version of the game so far.

all-knight-party, do games w whats your unconcious sign that you really really like the game you are playing
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When I start making notepad lists of long term goals or shopping lists and such, usually in open world games with lots of tasks where you'd forget on your own what you might be working toward

klay, do games w What are some great open source games?

Like many open source games, it has that distinctly ‘alpha’ feel to it right now, but I do enjoy NodeCore on occasion. It’s a zen minimalist block game with a unique diagetic crafting system. Instead of a traditional “recipe book” or “crafting grid”, you produce new materials through in-world transformations. For instance, to make glass, you have to surround sand with fire, and to control fire, you basically want to build a deliberately-shaped dirt or stone pit… the whole thing feels a little like minecraft and a little like a sand physics sim or cellular automata.

popcar2,

Pretty interesting, reminds me of Vintage Story. Thanks for sharing.

Shapillon, do games w What are some great open source games?

If you like classic RPGs, I can’t recommebd you Andor’s Trail enough \o

Silinde, do games w What are some great open source games?

Helium Rain launched a few years ago as a commercial game with an open source launcher (BSD-3), and as of a few weeks ago the game became free on Steam. The developer is no longer maintaining it, but there’s still a small community that are interested in it.

rustyricotta, do games w What are some great open source games?

Pixel Dungeon, or its more updated and popular fork, Shattered Pixel Dungeon.

Randomized Dungeon Crawler.

Available on PC and Android (at least)

klay, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

I think part of the problem is just that there are a lot more good games that people know about! Unfortunately one of the tradeoffs for all the riches of heaven is that it’s a lot harder to cover them all.

Voyajer, do games w What are some great open source games?
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Xonotic

Tee Worlds

Hedgewars

lazycouchpotato,
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Xonotic is the only one I’ve played out of all the games in this post. Only tried it for a couple hours, but it was fun.

Pxtl, do games w What are some great open source games?
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Zero-K. It’s a competitive online RTS loosely based on the classic Total Annihilation (which led to Planetary Annihilation and Supreme Commander). Some of its features are a bit overcomplicated, but it does an amazing job innovating within the RTS genre.

It’s fast, aggressive, and fun. You spam units, claim territory (in the form of metal-extractors and energy-grid that upgrades their output, and building defenses to protect that) and raid and assault your opponents.

It abandons the hoary old concept of factions, instead giving you your choice of starting factories… and as the game progresses, you can expand into other factories to access the synergy of units. So you start a battle with a narrow slice of the unit-pie, but ultimately can access the whole inventory in a single match. There is no “teching” really, besides constructing resource-buildings, which keeps the focus on resources, construction, and combat.

It has a full single-player campaign that introduces the game’s complexity bit-by-bit… but the campaign does have some difficulty spikes, particularly since the units do get rebalanced once in a while and so an old mission will become suddenly easier or harder as the developers patch the game.

The game has a Lua-based GUI plug-in architecture if you like WoW-style UI mods as well.

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