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Sharpiemarker, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

I used to be into brainy games. When life gets busy, I tend to enjoy simpler games that are easy to put down.

MMOs require a lot of time and effort.

I think some games require you to be a bit ADHD.

ag_roberston_author, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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First of all, BG3 is built on the DnD 5th Edition system, (with some slight changes) so a lot of people who have played DnD are going to be very aware of the system and how it works. But to be honest, on the easier settings, it’s almost impossible to fail the game, you can do what ever you want.

A big tip for BG3 inventory management is to use the “Send to camp” option for items. Grab them whenever, they don’t take up inventory space.

argo_yamato, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

Generally I just start playing. If the game keeps my attention and I keep playing at some point all the various character abilities, what is valuable or not and managing items just clicks. And some days I just don’t feel like figuring stuff out so I play games I am familiar with.

LegionEris, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

There are tons of games that don’t require that sort of knowledge base or study investment. It’s a minority that do. But you’re on Lemmy. This is a self selected community of extra thoughtful nerds. This community is more likely to be excited about games with homework than your average gaming community. I do genuinely love the research part of complex games. I like crafting builds and planning battles. I loved both Divinity Original Sin games and will love BG3 when I get there.

But sometimes I do just want a game for my hands to play while by brain takes a break. That’s why I spent most of the summer with Earth Defense Force 5, a 9/10 space insect exploding experience. Highly recommend it if you don’t want to fuck with the details.

helenslunch,
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There are tons of games that don’t require that sort of knowledge base or study investment

Oh yeah I know that, it just seems like these type of games are super popular. My brother, who gifted me the game, loves it.

I think it may be something about my personality that just gets FOMO if I don’t know everything.

phonoodles,

You really need to put away the idea of having to min/max everything, especially in a single player game. Just make the choices as they come and if they aren’t perfectly optimal, who cares. Games are meant to be fun so if you are having fun then mission accomplished. If you still can’t shake the FOMO then yeah maybe the more complex games aren’t for you and that is okay too.

LegionEris,

Oh yeah I know that, it just seems like these type of games are super popular.

I honestly think that’s just your circle. That does not describe the majority of the gamers I know or have known. I have always been in a minority for wanting to do math in my free time and have to find places online to discuss these games because usually nobody else in my life is playing them. Most of the people I know who played BG3 did so because it is popular, and they avoided as much of the math and homework as possible. And most of them are done with it.

helenslunch,
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I mean it’s all over headlines in the gaming community, and front page all the time in the Steam store, and all these gamers glowing about how great it is. So not necessarily “my circle” but just the gaming community as a whole.

LegionEris,

BG3 is a huge exception. It’s more popular by far than most games of the sort. And still only two of the dozen gamers I work with has played any of it, and they are both done with it.

all these gamers glowing about how great it is

Where? If you mean online, yeah, online discussion and gaming publications focus on more complex games that more serious gamers are playing. There’s just more to say about them. And news sites are gonna pay more attention to exceptions to the norm like BG3. None of the many gamers in my life are talking about it. If you’re hearing about BG3 and other huge, complex games regularly, it’s because you are spending time in spaces where and with people who care about them. Because it’s not just everywhere.

RandoCalrandian,
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Aren’t most gamers technically mobile gamers? Pokémon Go has a user base most PC games only dream of

LegionEris,

Tbh I play the hell out of some Kairosoft games on mobile <_< I love watching my little guys thrive.

sim_,

I’m with you, the research is half the fun for me with complex games. But like others have said, BG3 is a great example of “choose your own” depth. You can absolutely stumble your way through the game and do just fine!

pikasaurX4, (edited ) do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of November 19th

I’ve been watching some GPW3 gameplay, but I also would probably not be able to play it lol. I just beat Jedi: Survivor yesterday. I waited a while to pick it up because of all the performance issues and it really did run like crap, but at least I got it on sale and it was still quite fun.

I’ll probably either go back to Sea of Stars, which I only played for a couple hours so far, or maybe I’ll play The Messenger, which I bought at the same time in a bundle.

Also, with the release of the Rivals 2 Kickstarter, I’ve been playing a bit of Rivals of Aether with friends. It’s one of the greatest platform fighters out there, but I feel like it’s still very underrated

Moonrise2473, do gaming w Anyone knows about calm Windows games with 1-finger touch screen support?

I just played “behind the frame”

It’s a short story that’s perfect to be played on a windows tablet! Even better if the tablet supports the pen

It’s free this month if you have an active Amazon prime subscription

I liked it, it’s casual and it can be finished in a single session (1 hour, puzzles are very easy)

buedi,

Oh wow! That looks like a pretty unique experience. I have a pen, indeed! Thank you very much :-)

Kolanaki, do gaming w What game genre would you like to see more entrants in?
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Cartoon logic point and click adventure games like Sam & Max or Monkey Island. There are still a lot of adventure games similar to that style being made, but they’re all fairly realistic in the puzzles. I want the stupid, non-sense logic used in cartoons to make the puzzles harder but also funnier.

Rentlar, do games w For the people playing City Skylines 2 how do you solve 'High rent"

Rezone for higher density, lower taxes, pollute the area to lower rent values and give them something else to complain about, change to office/commercial.

High rent complaints don’t really hurt your city’s operation too much, it’s just that it’s a blocker to the businesses’ profitability or residential maintenance and can’t level up.

Fizz,
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Lol pollute the area to lower rent values. That’s so dystopia.

JustZ,
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What is this Flynt Michigan?

TALL421, do gaming w What game genre would you like to see more entrants in?
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I’m honestly not the biggest fan of the genre, but point and clicks I feel are a truly dying genre or at the very least they are so incredibly niche today

tal,
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I haven’t been playing any point & click entrants since…God. There were some hidden object games that I got when I got Steam. I guess maybe outside that subgenre, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samorost and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinarium, maybe a bit over a decade back.

But I dunno if the situation is honestly all that grim.

Searching for “Point & Click” on Steam and sorting by user review.

I get over 4,000 entries, and the top-rated entries are dominated by releases in the top few years.

You might be thinking specifically of adventure games, but even if I add the adventure tag, it’s still over 3,000 entries.

ascagnel, do gaming w Rant: Valve's new Steam Deck screws speak volumes about their ethos.

Three thoughts:

  • Valve doesn’t use physical media, so there isn’t a need to enforce DRM at the hardware level
  • the Deck itself is sold at a small profit regardless of the configuration, so there’s no benefit to pushing users to higher-price configurations
  • Valve enforces its DRM in software via the OS

The biggest reasons to lock down hardware aren’t really there on the Deck. On top of that, it benefits Valve to have other devices running their storefront, so using off-the-shelf parts when possible makes it easier for others to use the Deck as a template.

helenslunch, (edited )
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I really have no idea what this comment is supposed to be about. Do you think companies like Apple don’t make buckets of money from their app store? Or their subscription services? Do you think they “need” to charge exorbitant prices for their hardware? Do you think they “need” to strike partnerships with their suppliers to ensure they can’t sell their parts to anyone else? Do you think they “need” to lock them down so that even if you’re able to obtain third party parts, they still won’t work?

Corporations don’t care about “needs”. Their goals are to extract as much money from the consumer as humanly possible.

jarfil,

Apple’s business model is to sell hardware, in order to “extract as much money from the consumer as humanly possible” they “need” to protect hardware sales first and foremost.

Valve’s business model is to sell software, in order to “extract […] possible” they “need” to have as much compatible hardware as possible.

You can argue that Apple’s business model is antiquated or suboptimal, but you’ll have to prove that freeing their hardware and reducing prices, would mean an equal or higher increase in benefits from their app store and subscriptions.

helenslunch,
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Apple’s business model is to sell hardware

That is incorrect. Apple sells a wide variety of software and subscription services, including ALL apps in the App Store, with a whopping 30% share of any app purchase or in-app purchases, much like Steam.

Valve’s business model is to sell software

Valve could just as easily decide they want to profit from the hardware, just like Apple. Especially now that they’ve sold several million of them. They choose not to.

You can argue that Apple’s business model is antiquated or suboptimal

It is absolutely neither of those things. They have a brilliant business model. So much so that they’re able to sucker people into paying 100%+ more than any of their products are actually worth while simultaneously pissing in their faces and telling them it’s raining by building in a locked ecosystem, disallowing the users to decide what software they want to use, and making their hardware almost completely irreparable.

cardboardchris, do gaming w Steam Deck Owners: What’s been your favorite game that you first discovered on Steam Deck and now you can’t seem to put down?
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I really like Kingdom: Two Crowns on my steam deck.

Paradachshund, do gaming w What game genre would you like to see more entrants in?

I don’t really know what to call it, but to my knowledge there has never been another game like guild wars 1 (yes, including 2). I think that undefined genre is actually quite fun and unique and I would love to see more attempts at it.

HidingCat,

Hybrid MMO/ARPG?

Paradachshund,

Sort of, but it has so many things that make it what it is. The deck building skill system, the instanced open world with social hubs to form parties in, the way the combat so heavily emphasizes countering and interrupting your opponents… There’s a lot of small details that make the whole I think.

GammaGames, do gaming w Did anyone get the Limited Edition OLED Steam Deck

I saw someone who had similar issues, saying their account got locked for making too many purchases. Luckily their brother ordered one for them!

LoamImprovement, do gaming w Steam Deck Owners: What’s been your favorite game that you first discovered on Steam Deck and now you can’t seem to put down?

Bloodstained is a top contender, I can’t say I first discovered it on the Deck, but it just feels right on a handheld, in a way that it didn’t with controller on desktop, and the Switch just isn’t good enough to run it at a passable framerate.

raptir, do gaming w Steam Deck Owners: What’s been your favorite game that you first discovered on Steam Deck and now you can’t seem to put down?

Not a new discovery, but I rediscovered Torchlight 1 and 2. The Steam Deck controls make it a lot smoother to play than a mouse.

blindsight,

I’ve heard D2R is really good on the Steam Deck, so I think I’ll start with that one. Or maybe PoE.

I’ve ordered an OLED Deck and I’m looking for games with fun gameplay loops that don’t take too much attention since I’ll most be playing while watching TV with my partner. ARPGs seem like a perfect match.

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