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peteyestee, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Didn’t they get rid of some 11 requirements? Won’t most regular people just do the upgrade to 11?

JackbyDev,

They didn’t get rid of it, they’re allowing you to upgrade to 11 and calling it unsupported. Just like 10 is unsupported.

LeFantome,

With Win 11, you still get the security updates though right?

JackbyDev,

Yes, the “not supported” thing is just their terminology. They could decide to stop pushing them at any time. Though technically they could pull the plug on anything whenever, but they’re explicitly saying “we might stop supporting these unsupported Windows 11 installations at any time.”

MonkderVierte, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

If you use Windows as mere game launcher, you better have a application firewall set to whitelist Steam only anyway.

FrostBlazer, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Is there an easy way to port all my stuff to Linux? I would not have made the switch in the past, but all the good will I attributed to Microsoft is pretty much gone. I’ve heard Mint is petty easy to hop onto?

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

FrostBlazer,

Thank you for you detailed response! I think something like Bazzite would be more up my alley based on what you said. Something that is hard to mess up is something I’d be more comfortable with for sure.

I appreciate your offer for troubleshooting help as well!

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

Make sure to not to choose steam gaming mode when you download it, it makes it a console like experience!

my matrix account is on my profile

viking, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

I can’t switch to Linux due to software requirements for work. On my personal computer I’m using Xubuntu for well over a decade, I didn’t like the unity window manager of Ubuntu. I heard they changed to something else by now, but I can’t be bothered to switch.

AceFuzzLord, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Plan on, if possible, cloning my account to a new account on a new internal drive (preferably a 2TB+ drive) to save all my stuff that I want and don’t feel like moving over due to laziness. Then on another partition, I plan on having the rest of the space being used for Linux. All I gotta do is make sure the win10 partition doesn’t receive an ounce of Internet connectivity at all and pray I don’t end up with a virus or something similar somehow (because even the safest internet practices aren’t safe enough anymore).

Hopefully I can turn that partition into a cold partition where I can keep the current games I have that aren’t downloaded through Steam installed to ensure I can still play them. Then I can slowly debloat it by uninstalling everything I don’t need on there and get rid of a ton of files/unnecessary programs so that way I can still have roughly 500-600GB for win10 just in case I ever need it for anything, like a program I genuinely cannot figure out how to get working on Linux.

Critical_Thinker, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

linux primary with dual boot for a windows install just because of the games that won’t work.

CaptKoala, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

When that time comes I’ll probably either remove networking from, or just wipe win10 entirely.

Been using mint as my daily for a while now and I hate booting into windows 😂

HollowNaught, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@HollowNaught@lemmy.world avatar

Swapped to Linux last week. Currently dual booting. Over the coming months, I’m going to slowly transfer all my stuff over as well

SaharaMaleikuhm, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I have Windows only for League, no Steam installed. Ergo I don’t count

DragonTypeWyvern, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Linux. I’ve been putting if off because of hardware reasons that would be annoying to explain beyond the solution is upgrading the motherboard, which is bottlenecking me anyways.

Cocodapuf, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I still use steam on Windows 7. I don’t see the problem.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Do you worry about connecting it to the internet?

Cocodapuf,

Nope

Shannaresh,

Just please make sure it’s not internet connected if you value such things as your privacy, and bank accounts not being breached extremely easily. End of security support is no joke.

Cocodapuf,

I don’t really use the browser on that machine. It still has basic virus protection, and such.

End of security support is no joke.

Well really… that all depends on if you’re laughing.

Shannaresh,

Using a browser isn’t the only way it would be connected to the internet though, I know for sure there are malware bots actively searching for network connected XP machines that can brick systems just for existing on a public network, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the same wasn’t the case for 7. Anti-virus can only do so much for you if you’re a victim of ransomware or some remote execution exploit found since EOL

Cocodapuf,

Well, I have the ultimate defense against ransomware, full disk backups. Honestly, with automated backups, the whole world is a little less scary.

Nighed, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Nighed@feddit.uk avatar

Build new computer. Old computer to be a home server running Linux or something fancy.

bzah, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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I will dualboot to keep a windows 10 for software that only runs on it, but I really hope I will be able to be gaming on linux only.

Poopfeast420, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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I’ve been on Windows 11 since it was released. The only problem I had were NVIDIA drivers sometimes causing a bluescreen (mainly my fault).

Linux doesn’t work for me currently, since I use RDP to connect to systems for work, and RDP clients on Linux are ass.

AceSLS,

RDP clients on Linux are ass.

Remmina is better than windows native remote desktop shit imo

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Used it, it was probably the best, but still bad. If not for work, it would have been good enough though.

Most of the RDP implementations are also just based on FreeRDP, so they’re basically the same. I had terrible picture quality on all of them, even over local network, and the USB passthrough barely worked.

Tbh since I need the system for work, I wasn’t able to test stuff super long. Maybe I should install Linux on a secondary system, so I can just play around and try stuff.

secret300, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?

Gravity Rush is such a banger I just downloaded the second one on my PS4. I beat the first one on my Vita a while back but I don’t really remember how it ends so I might replay that before I start the second one.

MellowYellow13,

Same with me, never played the second one

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