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Semjaza, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

World of Warcraft ruined Warcraft.

Capitalism ruins franchises.

callouscomic,

Cataclysm ruined World of Warcraft.

CallMeAnAI,

Pssssshhhh wow was ruined after beta was finished 🙄

B0NK3RS, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?
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I wouldn’t go as far as ruined but Halo 4/5/Infinite all suck.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

4 and 5 didn’t ruin anything for me. There’s stuff I genuinely like about them that got me excited for the next game. Plenty I didn’t like about them too.

Then there’s Infinite… it feels like the DLC or post-game content to a game we never got. And the multiplayer was unplayable last I saw. It made me no longer excited for the next game.

I still do Halo game nights a couple times a year though.

brucethemoose,

4/5 made so much accumulated story baggage though.

Infinite would have been better if 4/5 and whatever requisite novels didn’t exist.

Omegamanthethird,
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How much baggage do you have to address? Evil Cortana, Guardians, and Prometheans. The rest can be managed around.

If Infinite didn’t have to wrap up the previous games, it wouldn’t have that stink on it. But then it would have had even less substance. And the shitty open world wouldn’t have been any better.

It would have been better if they just used Cortana and the Guardians to wrap up the Promethean saga. But then they’d still have to write a decent story, which apparently they are incapable of.

brucethemoose,

It’s more that they wrote themselves into a corner with Cortana’s state/loss, all the forerunner lore being out in the open now, the weird Guardians stuff…

Infinite could have been a much more subtle expansion on the forerunners, keeping them enigmatic like the trilogy, and kept Cortana. That’s much more straightforward and “Halo”

The open world stuff wasn’t awful. I loved the marine encounters. But yeah, it felt half baked.

PalmTreeIsBestTree,

Everything after 3 is poorly written fan fiction to me. It still is one of my favorite franchises of all time, but it’s never going to be the same again. Halo Wars 2 was all right though.

ampersandrew,
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Half of Halo 4 was the best story they ever put in a Halo game. The other half was embarrassingly formulaic sci-fi.

Menschlicher_Fehler, do games w So are GOG going to relist Devotion? Seeing how they're about freedom to buy games.
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“Gamers” aka angry Chinese nationalists.

Coelacanth, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?
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Viconia and Sarevok had no reason to be in BG3 and by choosing to use WOTCs deplorably terrible supplemental product lore as canon Larian has now cemented those character portrayals forever, which was just pure character assassination.

MyDarkestTimeline01, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

Dragon Age 2 ruined Dragon Age for me.

Mass Effect 3’s ending soured me to anything EA until Titanfall 2 was less than $20.

I’m sure I’m forgetting a few more ones but those two stand out the most.

Senseless,

The asset recycling in DA2 was absolute madness. I really tried to like DA:I and finished it once but it was painful at times. Has nothing on common with Dragon Age but its name.

gerryflap, do games w Gamers have you ever been in a game competition or something similar?
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2 things come to mind:

The first thing is that at one point many years ago we participated in Rocket League’s RLCS. Participation was completely open. We were actually doing quite well until we randomly ran into pro players and got completely demolished. It’s kinda humbling to know that even though you’re part of the top ~1% of players, pro players are still in a totally different league and absolutely unbeatable. Their speed and game sense is so much better than that of any mere mortal, it’s like we weren’t even there. We were probably low Grand Champion around the time, and we got beaten like we would beat Gold ranked players. Personally I don’t mind losing like this, it’s a good learning experience and shows you how much is possible.

At uni I also participated in plenty of LAN parties that had random game competitions. Usually they were games that a lot of us didn’t ever play before. We’d usually start playing the game a few hours in advance to get a feel for it. There I’ve found that I’m quite decent at this usually, but that there are definitely a few people who can get quite decent at a game in 2 hours to the point that they challenge people with casual experience with the game. It as always good fun though, and because I tended to put some effort into it I regularly managed to get into the top 3.

brsrklf, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

I don’t think it would be possible for a bad sequel to ruin a game I liked.

Metroid Other M has not ruined previous Metroids for me (its terrible Adam Malkovich depiction doesn’t even register when I’m playing Fusion, since the character has barely any continuity between the two).

Okamiden did not ruin Okami, it just sucked on its own and what little story it tried to change I disregard. I’d replay Okami today in a heartbeat.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 took a direction I hated, both in style and gameplay, and it made me want to replay XC1. I did. It’s still awesome, though XC3 became my favourite.

And complete opposite of the topic : Baten Kaitos was not bad, but kind of a silly popcorn game to me. Baten Kaitos Origins did not ruin this game : it was so great and flipped the interpretation of the first game so well it made BK better.

N0x0n, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

Probably unpopular opinion but Prey is clearly on that list ! Not because the new game was bad, but they just took everything that was interesting and original in the first game, throw it away and just made it another doom-like game :/…

The original Prey wasn’t a GOTY or whatever, it just felt different and something new and original… Something I liked and they just made a total reboot with nothing in common on what made prey original/interesting !

evujumenuk,

What aspects of the newer Prey make it more like Doom than the older Prey? To me, that’s kinda like saying, “System Shock was just Wolfenstein 3D 🎶 in space 🎶”

N0x0n,

I know the atmospheric design is doom like (aliens, weapons, paltforms…etc.) but gameplay mechanics were totally inovative and original (wall walking, portals, spirit walk) and chracter focus was also cool (native american).

I’m not saying Prey 2016 is a Bad game, I just found it sad that they totally changed the franchise spirit 😄

EntropyPure,

It never was planned as a sequel/reboot of Prey by the studio. The publisher insisted on the name in hopes of more revenue from „long time fans“.

giddy, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?
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I could not get into Dawn of War 2 and 3 despite pouring thousands of hours into DoW1 and it’s expansions. Why do makers of classic RTS games (looking at you EA) have to f*** with the formula?

moncharleskey,

You like base building and big armies? Well, too bad!

Harrk,

Was the same for me too. I remember getting DoW2 and being so disappointed. Then 3 came along… I’ve given up them making a decent game again.

Even that DoW remaster isn’t looking good. I’m holding out until I see the reviews but if they’re only going with AI upscaled textures for £30 then no thanks.

felbane, do games w So are GOG going to relist Devotion? Seeing how they're about freedom to buy games.

This entire controversy is from 2020. Spoiler: GOG did not relist the game. Red Candle sold it on their own storefront, and both Steam and GOG retained a tally in the “bends over for CCP” column.

billwashere, do games w Recommendations for games to play on a treadmill (i.e. not too intense)

Death Stranding 1 & 2. I mean they are walking simulators anyway. I’m not dissing the game at all. Probably have 500 hours plus in both of them combined.

slimerancher, do games w Day 383 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
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Yeah, there were couple of fights where I died quite a bit too, don’t recall if it was this same location or not though.

It can be a fun series to revisit.

psx_crab, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

Halo 4, kinda suck tbh. This is coming from someone who play the MMC so i basically marathon it and is able to compare it back to back, and it peaked at Reach. The gun play is wonky and no dual wield, Covenant somehow become the bad guy again after the event in 3, and none of the one that help human defeat Gravemind came back as an ally.

But it doesn’t ruin the franchise for me though, to me canonically there’s only 5 Halo game. The rest is fan fic.

Duamerthrax,

It’s explained in the game that the Covenant faction you fight is a splinter faction. There’s more details in the books, I didn’t have problems when I played it.

psx_crab,

Glad you don’t have any problem with it. I do though.

Jestzer,

Right, the books that also seem to constantly have continuity errors with the games. :P

Reading the books has actually taught me to not take Halo’s plot so seriously and instead just try to enjoy whichever piece of the story I’m currently engrossed in.

BuboScandiacus, do games w So are GOG going to relist Devotion? Seeing how they're about freedom to buy games.
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theskyisfalling, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

Two of my favourite games of all time are Diablo 2 and Guild Wars.

Both of these games I was insanely hyped for the following games in the series and got them both on their respective releases days. Both were utterly disappointing crap when compared to their previous games and both probably contributed heavily to how I will now no longer get hyped for any game let alone buy one in their first year or two of release.

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