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Surenho, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of August 24th

Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2. Amazing game, just like its predecessor. Clunky movement and combat as usual though, kinda sad that it did not improve that much. Still improved though.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod, do gaming w Have fun
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Aaaand I’m a stealth archer again

aeronmelon,
tgirlschierke, do games w The recent Steam censorship debacle actually sort of opened me up to adult games.

“Some hentai games are very good.” -Edward Snowden, referring to Lovers

Apeman42,
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Oh damn I thought this was some “Fuck bitches, smoke trees - Abraham Lincoln” shit, but it’s a real quote. Nice.

aeronmelon, do gaming w Have fun

I used to be gamer like you, but then I took a childbirth to the knee.

Denjin, do gaming w Have fun

I’ve never played skyrim. Am I a bad person?

Stamets,
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Horrible and unforgivable

grue,

Depends. Have you played Morrowind, or at least Oblivion?

Deflated0ne, do gaming w Have fun
@Deflated0ne@lemmy.world avatar

I refuse.

scintilla, do gaming w Duality of Gamer

I feel like there is a balance I need to enjoy a game fully. I really like modded Minecraft because I can approach the problems in many different ways but there is still progression. While in vanilla I often find myself lost because the things I have available to do next are only to help me do more things in the future.

selokichtli, do gaming w Duality of Gamer

This is me playing Elden Ring. I learned to ditch games I don’t enjoy after finishing The Last of Us Part II.

EDIT: Loved Dark Souls and Bloodborne, BTW, so, it’s not about it being too hard.

Derpenheim,

Elden Ring? Maybe we had very different experiences, but it felt to like Elden Ring was the easiest to find my way around in

selokichtli,

We sure did. Not only was hard to find the intended route to advance the game, it also got too long in consequence, to the point I lost all interest in the story and lore. With some luck, maybe our experiences could have been similar.

Derpenheim,

Can I ask what part you remember being lost at? Im not trying to retroactively guide you through the game, just trying to come to grips with where the game lost you

selokichtli, (edited )

Well, several parts, actually, but I definitely don’t remember all of them. I just let go after defeating the Fire Giant when I realized there was still too much of the game to play to finish it. I was already burnt out and not enjoying my time. Other parts that got me bored were the infinite amount of optional bosses, so many of them being harder than actual bosses. I remember that getting to Radhan was a maze, too. Also the Giant Snake boss that requires a specific magical weapon that doesn’t show anything special against other enemies to be defeated, I mean, I guess someone had beaten it without that weapon, but it becomes stupidly hard even for Souls games. One thing that was a constant set back was that comment in the Round table about an albinuaric woman knowing some secret path to advance. Overall, I really couldn’t keep track of the secondary quests.

Now that I think about it, it probably had to do with the fact that I don’t play games online. So, there is a lot of feedback and help from other players that wasn’t coming to me, I guess.

lordbritishbusiness,

Elden Ring has a lot of focus on bouncing around the map and sort of finding stuff.

There’s hints if you’re looking for a specific challenge, but overall you just sort of wander until you say “ooh cool” followed by “ow that was really tough” and eventually getting through it laughing and saying “you all said a tarnished couldn’t possibly do this, now who’s laughing!”.

But hey, if you’re not feeling it, don’t feel bad about it. You kinda need to be in the right mood for it, and I’ve not been able to find the energy for a replay because the ‘oooh shiny’ from exploration is gone.

Dark Souls has a similar exploration piece, but much more defined pathways, and I find it more replayable. ER is just so much.

Katana314,

I had this exact issue with the first two Dark Souls games. I explored, but did not find the “intended path forward” that would give me a gradual difficulty curve.

This is why I think a better game formula is: Give players some kind of overt objective marker or in-world guidance for their primary destination, but also point out they’re going to start having a very hard time if they never explore for themselves.

tomkatt, do gaming w Duality of Gamer
@tomkatt@lemmy.world avatar

This is about No Man’s Sky. I’ve experienced both sides of these reviews.

nocturne,
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That was my instant thought too.

spankmonkey,
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Yeah, there is a huge gap between being forced to do what you need to do because the whole thing is on rails and not being given even a hint of what to do. So many games can’t find a spot in between the two extremes.

Not being able to find things isn’t finding my own way, it is just frustrating because I probably walked right past it and didn’t happen to look at it the right way to get the interact option. I need strong hints or even the choice to be told where to go or I get frustrated and quit games.

Stamets,
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I’ve been wanting to play it on PC again for ages, used to on PS5 and this update isn’t making that easier

TheOneAndOnly,

Could be Outer Wilds, too. Having played both, I can see it going either way.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w A message from the medic

“What am I supposed to do for you?”

😂

Cataphract, do games w The recent Steam censorship debacle actually sort of opened me up to adult games.

Oh man! You’ve just giving me something that I think will really help stoke the fire in my relationship!

I’ve never really been into sexual roleplay and it’s one of the things my partner previously expressed an interest in. We regularly game together either doing co-op or single player since we feel it’s more engaging sometimes than zoning out on a movie., so the recommendations like “Leap of Love” sounds like the perfect gaming/drinking night that might kinda dip into the roleplaying aspect!

I really wish I claimed it when I saw it, just a few clicks and I’m kicking myself for it now. Are there any others you or anyone else would recommend that are more fantasy roleplay focused and might be good for two people?

nightlily,

That’s a difficult one. Due to their target audience, a lot of them are more focused on storytelling (usually limited gameplay and more reading along in a choose your own adventure style) for a single player. What you’re describing is a bit of an untapped market, but give F95zone.to a look and you might find something. It’s a site dedicated to collating freely available adult games (with ways to support the authors linked). It’s where a lot of the games OP talks about found their audience.

grue,

I’m suddenly wondering if horny multiplayer games for couples is already a thing, or if it’s an untapped market.

ThunderComplex, do games w Are those of us who grew up on older games more attuned to latency?

No. The thing is AAA games are now being released in an unoptimized state way too often. Even if you still get good FPS microstuttering and short lag spikes still occur frequently.

Of course this can make you wonder if this is a you problem and you just got too sensitive.

Nope, this is an industry problem. Why would you optimize a game? No, legitimately asking. It doesn’t affect sales numbers, it often doesn’t significantly tank your steam review score (that most publishers don’t care about), there are practically no downsides to not optimize your game.
But if you do value optimization, it lowers dev velocity, requires more training/awareness for devs and artists, and you won’t be able to ship as fast anymore. And on top of that you get… nothing. A few more sales maybe?

NuXCOM_90Percent,

I’m going to push back on that a fair bit.

I used to agree it was “optimization” problems. And there are definitely some games/engines with those (I love Team Ninja but… god damn).

But it is also that mindsets have changed. Most people know of the “can it run Crysis?” meme… if only from Jensen. But it was a question for a reason because Crysis (and other games) genuinely pushed the envelope of what desktop computers could handle. It was an era where you really would put a LOT of effort into figuring out what settings would get you what framerate and “ultra” was something that only the super rich or the people who JUST built a new computer could expect to run.

But around the launch of the PS4/XBONE, that all changed. Consoles were just PCs for all intents and purposes and basically all games “worth playing” were cross platform. So rather than taking advantage of the latest nVidia card or going sicko mode for the people who got the crazy powerful single thread performance i7, they just targeted what the consoles could run. So when people did their mid-gen upgrades of PCs… suddenly “ultra” and “epic” were what we began defaulting to. Just crank that shit up, turn off whatever you don’t like, and see your framerate and go from there.

The refresh SKU consoles bumped up the baseline but… not all that much since those games still had to run on a base XBONE. And then we got the PS5/XSEX which… you know how it is never a good time to build a new PC? It was REALLY not a good time to build a new console as ray tracing and upscaling/framegen rapidly became the path forward in the hardware/graphics space. But also? Those launched during COVID so the market share of the previous gen remained very large and all those third parties continued to target the previous gen anyway.

Which gets back to PC gaming. Could more effort be put in to improve performance? Yeah, definitely. But we are also getting reminded of what things were actually like until the mid 10s where you might only play a game on Medium or High and wanting that new game to be gorgeous is what motivates you to drive down to Best Buy and get a new GPU.

But instead it is the devs fault that we can’t play every game on maxed out Epic settings at 4k/240Hz… because this generation never knew any different.

ThunderComplex,

I get what you’re trying to say but I’ve definitely experienced performance problems even on lowest settings.
The issue isn’t that everyone tries to run the game maxed out. The issue is that fundamental problems are often left in the games that you can’t just fix by lowering quality settings.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

And there is a reason the +/- (?) buttons literally changed the render window for DOOM and the like. Like… those iconic HUDs were specifically so that those playing on a 640480 monitor might actually only have to worry about a 640360 game and so forth.

Same with those of us who played games like Unreal Tournament at 18-24 FPS on an 800*600.

Like I said, there are definitely some problem children (again: Team Ninja). But it is also worth remembering that most games are still targeting a previous gen console SKU at 1080p. And, ironically, the optimizations are going to be geared more towards that.

Which… is why upscaling is such a big deal. Yeah “AI Upscaling” is a great buzzword. But it really is no different than when we used to run OFP at a lower resolution on the helicopter missions. It is just that now we can get “shockingly good” visuals while doing that rather than thinking Viktor Troska looks extra blocky.

Like, I’ll always crap on Team Ninja’s PC ports because they are REALLY bad… even if that is my preferred platform. But it took maybe 2 minutes of futzing about (once I got to Yokohama proper and had my game slow to sub 20 FPS…) to get the game to look good and play at a steady 60 FPS. No, it wasn’t at Epic (or whatever they use) but most of the stuff was actually on High. Is it the same as just hitting auto-detect and defaulting to everything maxed out? Of course not. But that gets back to “Can it run Crysis?”

ArsonButCute,

Much of this specifically is devs implementing MSAA, which once upon a time was cheap, efficient, and looked fine. Nowadays with RT added into the mix MSAA just simply can’t function well on modern hardware, to the point where even city builders like Cities Skylines 2 will crawl to 14-15fps on low settings if you haven’t overridden the graphics pipeline to remove msaa and replace it with one that actually functions.

Arkhive, do games w Day 406 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

If you liked this maybe check out Hi-Fi Rush. Very good third person fighting rhythm game.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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Not a big Rhythm game person, but i definitely will give it a try. I think I have it in my Steam Library thanks to a humble bundle

rafoix, do games w Are those of us who grew up on older games more attuned to latency?

If you folks want to have a really hard time find a way to play the NES version of Mike Tyson’s Punch Out on original hardware with a CRT monitor and then play it on any emulator on a modern monitor. You will feel like you’ve aged 80 years.

bridgeenjoyer,

I do play this on original hardware and crt. It feels so bad otherwise!!!

invertedspear,

I was playing punch out on the switch the other day and 100% this. That game was all about proper timing and reaction speed. All the little latencies add up to it being nearly impossible. I never beat the game as a kid, but I could get to the last fighter, Tyson in my version, Mr Dream? In the non Tyson version? Anyway, can’t even beat the Russian dude that laugh taunts me on the switch. I know what to hit, and when to hit it, but HDMI lag, upscaling lag, blue tooth controller lag, all add up to it being nearly impossible to react.

trslim, do games w The recent Steam censorship debacle actually sort of opened me up to adult games.

I’ve been into nsfw games for a while, but I do genuinely enjoy a lot of them. Corruption of Champions 2 is a great game, with a lot of customization and great characters, though it is apparent that the game isn’t finished yet.

Tales of Androgyny has some of the highest quality scenes I’ve encountered in an nsfw game. It’s also pretty funny. More games should have a femboy protagonist, is all I’m saying.

vic_rattlehead,

Oh man, CoC is a name I haven’t heard in a loooong long time. I think I have a save file and the original flash version hanging around somewhere.

Apeman42,
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He’s the main love interest, not the protag, but have you seen Haunted by Femboy? A little on the silly side, but I enjoyed the demo.

trslim,

I did see that but haven’t gotten around to playing it

Apeman42,
@Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not out just yet, but it sounded like they’re close based on the discussion board. Demo took me an hour or two to run through, worth the time if you like the subject matter. Quinn is adorbs.

trslim,

Sounds promising, I’ll check it out!

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