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all-knight-party, do games w whats your unconcious sign that you really really like the game you are playing
@all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

When I start making notepad lists of long term goals or shopping lists and such, usually in open world games with lots of tasks where you'd forget on your own what you might be working toward

Martorias, do games w Lies of P - Discussion

I’ve bought collectors edition of all fromsoft souls-games and initially I really like this, it’s pretty cool so far, although I’ve only just arrived at the hotel.

Xylinna,
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I almost bought the deluxe edition on Steam but didn’t (being cheap I guess).

De_Narm, do games w whats your unconcious sign that you really really like the game you are playing

Around the midpoint of a game, often while still enjoying it, I start asking myself how close to the end I am. Let’s Plays are great for this. I can just open a playlist and read episode titles until I’m around the same point I’m actually at. Let’s say e.g. 45/67 videos or 2/3. If I rarely do this, maybe even not at all, I’m really into the game.

For context, I mainly play quite linear JRPGs. For other games, I usually just look at howlongtobeat.com and compare it to my playtime.

Tibert, do games w whats your unconcious sign that you really really like the game you are playing

I don’t get tired fast.

A boring game will get me tired.

A great game will keep me in.

Tho sometimes it’s a bit more difficult to say. The environment may keep me in, but the gameplay mush me away.

mateomaui, do games w whats your unconcious sign that you really really like the game you are playing

ok, I’ll be the one to say it…

an occasional pants adjustment.

what’s that? no, it’s just dragon age or spongebob at bikini bottom, nothing to see here.

Xianshi, do games w whats your unconcious sign that you really really like the game you are playing

Playing for hours

Nutteman, do games w What are some great open source games?
@Nutteman@lemmy.world avatar

Technimo, a fantastic android version of tetris with tons of options and modes.

nnullzz, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

I get that wikis cost a little time and money to host and run them, but the studios/devs should offer up a wiki on release that could be moderated by a combo of employees and/or volunteers. They’re losing the opportunity to drive community engagement and keep it all close by letting these big wiki sites it up all the competition.

ono,

I like this idea in principle, but in practice, I suspect the same companies that often abandon games (and even whole platforms) would also discontinue their wikis. I would like information about the games I buy today to still be around when I play them again in ten or twenty years.

nnullzz,

That’s a good point. Fan hosted wikis have the same issue unless they’re maintained and funded by users. Big wiki companies are becoming scummy.

I get not every game is on steam, and not everyone games on PC, but maybe Steam could implement something like this as I don’t think they’re going anywhere anytime soon.

Or maybe we need to bring back good ol printed game guides.

jjjalljs,

Steam already hosts forums. Hosting a wiki wouldn’t be a big leap from that.

echo64,

It’s a little money, it’s a /lot/ of time. And for what, what does a company actually get by doing it themselves?

nnullzz,

The company wouldn’t be the ones in charge of handling the wikis content. It would be up to the community like is being done now in other cases.

I’m mainly saying that it would be helpful if they provided the space vs it being done by independent companies/orgs.

ono, (edited ) do games w whats your unconcious sign that you really really like the game you are playing

Avoiding main quest line advancements in order to make the game last as long as possible.

After overcoming a challenge, reverting my progress so I can try it another way, and then another.

Getting through real-life tasks as quickly as possible because I want to get back to the game.

Contemplating game characters and their motivations when I’m supposed to be trying to sleep.

GrimSheeper, (edited ) do games w whats your unconcious sign that you really really like the game you are playing

When I start taking screenshots waaaay too often, that’s when I know I’m really engrossed in it.

I do this especially often with EU4, like whenever I’m in a gigantic war, or when I’ve just taken some land and my borders are looking real sexy

jedibob5, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

I wonder how much it has to do with how much of a shithole the Fandom network is. Between the godawful UX, aggressive SEO to bury competing wikis in search results, and scummy business practices that effectively prevent wiki admins from migrating to other hosts, the idea of maintaining a game wiki probably isn’t all that appealing these days.

I miss Wikia…

Illecors,

Would you care to elaborate on what’s preventing wiki admins from migrating?

jedibob5, (edited )

They don’t actually let admins shut down their wikis or remove content from them. They can leave and start a new wiki, but they have to leave the old one in place (for which Fandom could potentially just find new admins), and they can only link to the new wiki from the Fandom wiki for a period of two weeks. With Fandom’s SEO, there’s a good chance the Fandom wiki will still be ahead of search results of a new wiki even after migration. Source

ono,

I wonder if this could be mitigated (or even nullified) by a cooperative game developer, through DMCA takedown notices sent to Fandom. There is a lot of art on these wikis, after all, and I imagine the copyright holder has some say in who is allowed to distribute it.

Illecors,

Thank you. I’ve been dabbling with the idea of establishing a non-profit for my lemmy instance. I’m not a user of game/movie/etc wikis, but I do love looking after my servers. I wonder if a non-profit owned wiki site bear any weight over time.

DrQuint,

Man this was an issue already some 10 years ago when touhou wiki went self-hosted. It took a whole year for google to get memo and link the new one above the old.

Nowadays I assume it’s pretty much impossible to reverse the flow unless if your game is huge and highly sought after.

EnglishMobster,

What are they going to do? Ban them?

Honestly if I was migrating away from Fandom I’d do everything I can to burn every bridge. Go through and edit every page to have every link redirect to the better wiki. Ignore their 2-week period, and don’t inform the Fandom overlords that the wiki is being shut down (it’s not like they’re going to check without being prompted).

I’d make them ban me, and then good luck finding an admin.

jedibob5,

It’s not too hard to roll back changes on a wiki. Any attempts at sabotage wouldn’t be very difficult to undo.

AlexWIWA,

I am forever grateful that halopedia rolled their own wiki and was spared from the fandom plague.

deranger,

Another stark comparison is UESP vs. Fandom for elder scrolls lore. Fandom is absolute cancer, poor UX even with an adblocker.

AlexWIWA,

Yeah I find it completely unusable. I can’t use wookiepedia anymore because it is just awful to use. Like you said, it’s awful even with an ad blocker

bionicjoey,

UESP is such a gem

GrammatonCleric,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Wikidot was the shit for Dark Souls games 😙👌

detalferous, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

They’re all just ads

Paradox, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?
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This is particularly painful with starfield. I know the game just came out, but the Fandom wiki is atrocious, and I haven’t been able to find any others.

ShadowRam, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

Was it a few years ago Fandom started buying up all these wiki websites?

Then they started with the ads and it all went to shit.

There were a bunch of games that had to move their shit off Fandom because it was a mess..

Now when you want an answer to a simple question, you have to fast track through a some rando's 5min youtube video to get the answer, where they could have put the answer in the title.

Satisfactory and Path of Exile are two games in recent memory that specifically moved their official wiki's away from Fandom,

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Satisfactory_Wiki

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

HooPhuckenKarez,

Coffee Stain Studios seem really give an actual shit about their fans.

Summzashi,

Personally love UESP. It was there way before fandom and will be there long after.

InvisibleShade, do games w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

I actually managed to soft lock a side quest in The Witcher 3 recently. If you loot a container right as a cutscene begins, the item will be removed from the container but not put into your inventory.

I managed to do this with a key (by mistake) and almost lost around 25 hours of gameplay lol.

pastermil,

What container is this?

InvisibleShade,

Avoiding spoilers, one of the major quests has you approach and help someone fight some monsters. In that same place there is a skeleton with a key in it for a different side quest.

After you finish fighting the monsters, a dialog cutscene triggers with the person you just helped, but there is a small window of time between the combat ending and the dialog cutscene starting when you actually loot.

pastermil,

Is this in a garden?

InvisibleShade,

No, it's on a desolate island, and you're trying to help solve the problem which makes it unlivable.

pastermil,

An island with a mansion full of mice?

InvisibleShade,

I'll just tell you, it was Hjalmar.

pastermil,

Yeah, I didn’t encounter anything like that. Probably fixed in the later patch…

InvisibleShade,

It actually isn't fixed because this happened to me only a couple of weeks ago (with the next gen upgrade). But it must be an incredibly rare bug because I've done the "loot before cutscene trigger" a bunch of times before but only once did it glitch.

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