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Hyphlosion, do games w Gaming has a polarization problem

Of course there’s middle ground. You just don’t see it much with AAA games because, as you mentioned, it’s all or nothing with those.

But don’t forget about indies. They comfortably fit in this middle ground because they’re not afraid to take risks.

Cethin,

Yep. Most AAA gaming is too afraid to appeal to a specific segment of the market. They make games that everyone is supposed to like, which often ends up being uninteresting at best.

Smaller games can target a smaller audience and still be successful. They take risks and do new things, and it’ll push some people away but many will enjoy it a lot more for it.

evilcultist, do games w Gaming has a polarization problem

93% vs 77% doesn’t strike me as polarized. 16% difference?

77% doesn’t even seem that bad if it’s a style of game I like. From about 2001 I used to see sci fi movies that looked interesting as long as they had at least a 25% Rotten Tomatoes score because my tastes were different.

Is there something I’m missing? I haven’t played either game and I haven’t looked at reviews. Won’t buy KCD (no character creation) and probably will eventually buy Avowed.

MarcomachtKuchen,

I think there is a strong difference since the steam rating usually ranges between 70% and 97%. This makes the gap way wider then the numbers suggest

Cethin,

The thing is, those reviews must be left by someone who purchased it. It’s got a self-selection bias. People purchased it presumably expecting to like it. They thought it would be a style of game they enjoyed. Most people who think it isn’t something they’ll like will just pass over it and not buy it, and obviously not effect the score.

teolan, do games w Which co-op first person shooters would you recommend?
@teolan@lemmy.world avatar

Does portal 2 coop count? Technically it’s a FPS

bouh, do games w Gaming has a polarization problem

We do have a problem of polarisation. But on the other hand we also have a problem of too many games, so we simply can’t play them all. This leads us to a need to choose which one to pick. And a bad choice is very bad, because games are expensive and time consuming.

Now the real problem is when a community mistaken a new game for another. Like avowed was considered a terrible game because the leader scroll fanboys thought it would be their next game, and it wasn’t. Anyone who know what old school bioware games were will certainly love avowed.

Now while veilgard is not a bad game, is it actually good? I’m not informed enough yet about it, but bioware has been terrible in the last decade, so I am clearly very wary of what they’re doing.

I will wait for a discount for both those games, and I’ll play avowed first because I’m informed and careful, and I have other games to play already.

On the side there’s also the problem of fascist propaganda that will brand a game woke a try to destroy it.

stardustsystem, do games w Which co-op first person shooters would you recommend?
@stardustsystem@lemmy.world avatar

Call of Duty 3, World at War, Black Ops 1, Modern Warfare 3, and Black Ops 3 all have local split screen Co-op as an option

DaveyRocket, do games w Which co-op first person shooters would you recommend?
@DaveyRocket@lemmy.world avatar

If you know how to sail the high seas and emulate things, Halo coop is easily my fave.

JoeKrogan,
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

+1 for halo.

NeryK,
@NeryK@sh.itjust.works avatar

Why emulate ? The Master Chief Collection is available on PC. It’s missing Halo 5 though. And then Infinite went ahead and cancelled this whole storyline.

DaveyRocket,
@DaveyRocket@lemmy.world avatar

True, I forgot that I bought that myself. My mind went to XBox emulation because I’ve been messing around with it. It’d be interesting to hear a comparison between what runs smoother: Halo 1-4 emulated or through the MCC.

stardustsystem,
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There’s technically a reason.

The OG Xbox version made by Bungie was ported to PC by Gearbox back in the day, and the port made some changes to the game in the process. More visual than gameplay oriented changes, but purists will say they ruined the game. The Gearbox port is what they built Halo Anniversary (the Xbox 360 remaster) and the TMMC version off of.

SamuraiBeandog, do games w Which co-op first person shooters would you recommend?
@SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world avatar

What do you mean by DRM here? Are you saying you need to be able to pirate it?

lena,
@lena@gregtech.eu avatar

No, lol. I really dislike this mentality people have that wanting no DRM = “Pirate! Burn her at the stakes!”. DRM, first of all, makes games [defective by design] (www.defectivebydesign.org). It’s an anti-feature which literally only harms those who pay, because pirates will always find a way around it. Additionally, DRM causes some more-than-noticeable performance issues. I can’t support a publisher who makes games with this thing they implement just to fuck us over some more.

Renacles, do games w Gaming has a polarization problem

I’ll be honest, I downloaded Avowed through gamepass and couldn’t stand it for more than 4 hours.

It’s about as dull as a game can be and doesn’t excel at anything, even when compared to games that released 15 years ago.

Do I think it’s garbage? No, but I also would not recommend it to anyone, it’s not worth their time nor money.

MarcomachtKuchen,

What if I from time to time really love some basic gameplay done well? I’ll think avowed is straight up my alley. Not every game I play needs to innovate. There is also a lot of comfort in the preexisting.

Renacles,

That’s fine, have fun then.

conditional_soup, (edited ) do astronomy w Friday Night Stargazing 2025-03-07

Follow up:

Got moved to tonight at my spouse’s request, didn’t get out until 2100.

Seeing was good, not the clearest I’ve seen, but not bad. The stars seemed overall dimmer than usual, but not shimmering or twinkling. Light pollution was definitely slapping though

What I managed (using 12" f5 dob, 30mm wide field eyepiece in 2x Barlow):

M65 and M66. Took me two or three tries to starhop to them. I did not manage to visualize NGC 3628, but m65 and M66 appeared as vague foggy shadows, oval in shape, both tilted to point upper left and lower right, the right above the left. Very difficult to visualize directly, almost had to visualize exclusively via averted gaze.

Bode’s Galaxy: this involved more dumb luck than I’d like to admit. I tried to starhop here by using the bear’s neck stars to form a pointer to a dimmer bunching of stars that would point to the galaxy. I tried probably four different times until I got on the same group of stars and slewed a bit right and maybe a degree down. Bode’s Galaxy has a more circular appearance than 65 and 66, the core is brighter, and it’s beefy enough to tolerate direct gaze. Still a faint fuzzy, but it left me in less doubt about whether I was just imagining it.

What I missed:

  • Jupiter, Rosette Nebula, everything in Canis Major, Orion, Gemini, and Monoceros: just didn’t get out in time and my views got blocked =(
  • NGC 2419: The moon stole the show here, unfortunately. It wasn’t directly blocking my view, but it was bright enough to wash out my view in this area
  • M97 and M108: Tried maybe six different times and got nowhere fast. Not sure why, but trying to star hop here just showed me a bunch of fairly unremarkable stars and that’s all. Maybe I needed higher magnification?
cristorf, do games w Which co-op first person shooters would you recommend?

Halo is my top pick, the first three have great stories and couch co-op if you need that, and if you get the master chief collection (halo mcc), the multiplayer is great and you can find tons of forge mode maps created by people, from race modes to mini golf haha

Gears of war is also fantastic, epic story, fun gameplay, and who doesn’t love a chainsaw bayonet lol

Deep rock galactic is another really fun one, I can’t say there’s too deep of a story too it, but it’s endlessly repayable with all the combinations of weapons and procedurally generated missions.

scrubbles,
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Oh gears, amazing co-op! Great cover system and a chainsaw on a gun. Phenomenal!

nahostdeutschland, do games w Gaming has a polarization problem

But as regular people, gamers, Lemmy posters, why are we doing the same? How is it serving us? Are we all influencers in waiting, hoping to up our updoot count and build a following of… dozens?

Many people are rationalizing their purchase decisions. Not everybody can afford to buy (and play!) two games so if you have two highly anticipated games or consoles coming out in the same time, most people can only get one. And then they have to choose. Afterward, they don’t want to hear that the other game is better, that it’s also great and they are missing out on a lot of fun and that the one they didn’t get is totally awesome.

sic_semper_tyrannis, do gaming w need retro game recommendations

The Pokémon Liquid Crystal ROM hack, a gen 2 remake for GBA

toxicbubble420,

I’ll add polished crystal as well

sic_semper_tyrannis,

That looks awesome. I might switch over to that version, or at least give it a try

sic_semper_tyrannis,

I tried it and it’s awesome. I like it better than Liquid Crystal. It feels way more retro but also modernized at the same time. The 60fps world is a huge improvement

Viri4thus, (edited ) do games w Gaming has a polarization problem

Brother, picking on your example, Avowed had the gall to charge 11€ more than KCD2 while offering a facsimile of what it promised while KCD2 improved upon their past game in every way. The polarisation stems from a game published by one of the richest companies in the world and in production for over 6y delivering a mediocre experience (at best) when compared to CHEAPER offerings that do much more. In truth, it’s not polarisation, it’s requiring a modicum of quality for your money. I returned it because I was advertised an Obsidian RPG and got a linear shooter with barely any choices and performance issues that would not be foreign in a mobile marketplace. That’s the future gamepass brings, slop. Luckily, there’s US indie, Asian and European developers making good games, KCD2 or BG3 being such examples. Shit, even Lords of the Fallen is a better experience than Avowed as people were delivered the experience that was promised in the promotional materials at less than 70€.

Edit: Dragon Age was technically well executed, but, again, as an RPG, it had little to offer. Would be another game perfect for a mobile app store. The total sales of that game and predicted sales of avowed confirm as much, it’s shovelware capitalising on a franchise name to drive sales while having no craft or passion behind it. If you read the reviews for avowed, the overwhelming majority of the thumbs up reviews complain the game is not worth the price of admission and it’s a mid game at best.

pfjarschel,

I am sorry, but it seems your Avowed is different from the one I am playing. I agree with your comment, but I am enjoying Avowed like I haven’t enjoyed any game in years! And barely any choices? Really? I just finished the first area (not the tutorial), and there were LOTS of meaningful choices! But speaking of the tutorial, there was a choice there that impacted certain future interactions. The R is definitely there in this RPG. I haven’t played a game where even the little choices matter as much as in this game!

Viri4thus,

Try stabbing an NPC, let me know how it reacts.

ms_lane,

Just continue voting with your wallet. It’s working.

nutbutter, do games w Which co-op first person shooters would you recommend?

Left 4 Dead 2 has a split-screen mod.

NeryK, do games w Which co-op first person shooters would you recommend?
@NeryK@sh.itjust.works avatar

If you want no DRM, you are basically only going to get your games from GOG.

www.gog.com/en/games?tags=fps&features=coop&order…

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