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kaitco, do games w Is overwatch 2 really that bad?

Typing this in-between matches and after playing for the last 4 hours: It sucks, but I’m still here 😂

Honestly though: If you don’t take super serious, it’s fun to play. Every now and then I’ll buy the battle pass because there’s some character skins I want and when I can get a group of friends to play, we always have a blast together.

People who lose their minds over a Moira who “does too much DPS” or send “tank diff” into the game chat make it annoying to play, and it can get frustrating if you’re a streaming who is trying to rank or something, but just jumping on to have some fun playing in the different roles and getting good at different characters’ kits makes the game remain fun.

helenslunch, do games w Is overwatch 2 really that bad?
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Look at Reddit, Twitter, Discord, Facebook, etc. Consumers cry and complain but they almost never leave. That always leads to perpetually-increasing exploitation.

So yes, its that bad, and no, its not on death’s door.

harcesz, do cyberbezpieczenstwo w CD/DVD nieznanego pochodzenia
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Jeśli nie używasz windowsa to szansa jakiegokolwiek zagrożenia jest mniejsza od tego, że promieniowanie kosmiczne skieruje twoją przeglądarkę na złą domenę.

jordanlund, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
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I dropped it like it was hot when they cut out 1/2 the content I paid for. I might come back if they bring it back.

scrubbles,
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Nope, even then they burned me, I think Bungie is officially dead as I used to know it.

jordanlund,
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Pretty much how I feel. Removing content disrespected the money I spent on the game, sunsetting gear disredpected the time I spent in game.

Though they DID reverse the sunsetting decision after everyone told them it was an awful idea.

vikingtons, (edited )
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And they didn’t retroactively unlock impacted gear. I had a couple god rolled blast furnaces relgated to casual PvP despite the absurd amount of time I had to put into that bullshit forge activity.

Anyone else notice the extent of bungies creativity as far as destiny is concerned:

  • Stand on plates
  • Shoot targets
  • 3 damage phases
  • Juggle balls
jordanlund,
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Goes for Raid design too…

Take a group of 6, split into three groups of two.

A, B, and C.

A go to the right, B go to the left, C stay in the center.

Do the thing, then rotate, A to B, B to C, C to A.

Do it again. Rotate again. Do it again. Rotate again.

Damage phase. Repeat until someone screws up and you all die or boss is dead.

vikingtons,
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It’s funny is how gorgeous the endgame content looks. Sure it plays out very much in the same way, but it’s kinda crazy how hard they go in visuals on parts of the game that very few players can reach. I’m not opposed to this in principle, mind you.

But yeah the raids and dungeons didn’t really grip me in the end. Pretty as they are, there’s a lot of arbitrary systems at play which kill my engagement.

scrubbles,
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To have it in the first place though while the game is still active, horrid idea in the first place.

vikingtons, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
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Something along the lines of hiring an expert on gambling. There’s a lot of game mechanics in games like Destiny 2 which lock you in through little feedback loops.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIuAeFu84kY

It’s a good looking game with decent movement and gunplay, but it fully disrespects your time. RIP if you ended up buying the game in 2017 with the first few expansions because that shit gone now.

Buttflapper,

Seems like most live service games these days are built off of addiction or gambling. For example, gacha gaming is becoming more popular everyday, with their rolls and gambling loops. You can see this in games like Genshin impact. Kind of makes me miss the old days where we had games like battlefield and Call of Duty old school style, just running around playing something that we enjoy for fun.

vikingtons,
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Yup. The gaming industry got lucrative enough for the bean counters to swoop in and bastardise.

KingThrillgore, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
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The same reason people use ketamine. It feels good.

therealjcdenton, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?

There is no competitor, and no other game offers the same raid experience as d2

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
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because they enjoy it?

eramseth, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?

Because it’s fun and I have friends I play it with.

The thing with destiny is that there are somewhat diminishing returns in terms of time invested vs in-game advancements.

The min-maxing and endless search for God rolls and the best builds can push you that extra 10% or so over the gen-pop player base who doesn’t spend 20hrs a week on the game.

But gen-pop and casual can still approach end game content without feeling like a total noob.

That said, there is still end game content that is geared towards “power users”… master nightfall, master raids, etc.

Also, as a D1 year 1 player who actually kinda gets what’s going on, story-wise, it’s great. But admittedly comprehending the story is very difficult given where they drop you in if you just started the game.

I will also applaud Bungie for making adjustments over the years. For sure it’s a lot less addictive than it used to be, and less of a grind. Or maybe its as much as a grind as you want it to be. The changes over the years have made the core game more approachable while they still held some high-level end game stuff for the die-hards. They tried to do the same with the story and it kinda works a little.

Also, for me, the raids are really great. Haven’t really experienced that sort of game play, teamwork, puzzle solving, and requirement for perseverance and gaming skill anywhere else. they’re just plain fun, especially if you have a good group to play with.

tamiya_tt02, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
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I hate Destiny. It’s my favorite game.

I started playing D1 during the PS4 Alpha, then beta, and release. Loved it. Played almost daily through The Taken King, and got D2 on launch day. Played the Red War, then took a break. Dabbled in curse of Osiris, took a longer break, played a bit of Beyond Light, more break, then got back into Destiny last June and played a lot through Lightfall’s seasons and The Final Shape.

I truly enjoyed my time playing, but now I’m starting to feel pulled in other directions. I got into Warframe, and The Forever Winter looks really good. I tried Helldivers and it was ok, I don’t have a group to play it with and don’t enjoy randos.

Anyway, all that to say Destiny 2 is dangerously addictive. It feels so good to play. I especially enjoyed the 10-year saga wrapping up with The Final Shape. I’m a very casual gamer, but Destiny makes me feel powerful. That’s why I play.

eramseth,

This. Will also add its like a gaming comfort blanket for me.

bitwolf, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?

I would still play it… If they allowed Linux gamers

neidu2, do gaming w The hubris of AAA publishing in three panels.

I’m OOtL on this one. What/who is/was Concord? And what happened to it/them?

MrFappy,

A new shooter that Sony launched a couple weeks ago and have subsequently cancelled and is offering refunds. So basically an astronomical waste of money.

CitizenKong,

About 100 million. Probably more, since they had a whole thing with animated episodes to tell the lore already produced.

SkyezOpen,

Sucks for the devs, but it warms my heart to see Sony take a spiked dildo in the ass.

JusticeForPorygon,
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really sucks for the devs. 8 years of development for a game that lasted 6 days.

yozul,
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Sony released a more realistic looking big budget Overwatch clone. It was fine, but nobody cared, because nobody wants a $40 live service Overwatch clone where all the characters have similar silhouettes. They spent 8 years making an okay game for nobody. If they’d done something different with the same basic characters and gunplay it could have maybe been good. They didn’t though, so estimates suggested they sold about 25,000 copies worldwide before pulling it from their store and refunding everyone.

Swedneck,
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Ontop of all of that, it was also just clearly a corporate cash grab where the people who made it either didn’t feel strongly about it or they didn’t get to put their soul into it as much as they wanted.

It’s not just bland, it’s a cold and calculating kind of bland. Like being served nutrient paste, but it’s not even flavourless instead they added artificial banana flavour so now it’s both depressing and makes you feel sick.

chillbo_baggins,

Another Overwatch clone that looks generic, and was shut down after a month bc of low player count. The company agreed to give everyone refunds.

stringere,

2 weeks

TheDonkerZ, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
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I feel as if the “lack of clear path forward” is a bit over an overreaction from the community.

They dropped Lightfall, and people feel burned, saying they’ll stop playing after Final Shape because Bungie never learns. Add the 2 layoffs into the pot, and the player hemorrhage isn’t about the path forward. This is just the first time the players haven’t known the 3 year plan in a long time.

Bungie is still announcing plans at the same rate they used to, the only difference from pre-TFS is they gave the community the names of 3 expansions ahead of time back then.Now all we have are leaks from some twitter accounts and the title of the next year of content.

AFAIK, they are talking about what “Codename Frontiers” is either today or tomorrow. So yeah, no future plans is not really the issue. They have been saying for a long time there will be more D2. The reason people haven’t wanted to play is everything else surrounding the the game (Bungie layoffs, etc).

Source: 3500+ hours of D2, and the ability to read and retain information. A seemingly rare trait in the D2 community.

Buttflapper,

I feel as if the “lack of clear path forward” is a bit over an overreaction from the community.

I don’t think it’s an overreaction considering the fact that they have been building up to the end of this story for about a decade now, it was the grand finale of everything in the entire game’s overarching dialogue, and frankly, no one even considered what would come after that other than the release of Destiny 3 if there even would be one

Bungie is still announcing plans at the same rate they used to

This is just the first time the players haven’t known the 3 year plan in a long time.

Now all we have are leaks from some twitter accounts and the title of the next year of content.

You’re contradicting yourself. You’re saying that they are still announcing things at the rate that they used to, but players don’t know what’s going on, and all we have are leaks from Twitter accounts. How does that make any logical sense? We have no idea what’s going on, but we also know exactly what’s coming, but we also don’t because it’s just leaks and rumors… ummm

TheDonkerZ,
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Destiny 3: They have said several times over the years that making a Destiny 3 would not make sense, so there were no plans. Only thing that ever mentioned there was work happening on a D3 were leak accounts.

Considering it an overreaction is a bit subjective I suppose, but since what said was they are announcing things at the same rate, save for pre-TFS, all we had were the names of upcoming expansions… I don’t see how I’m contracting myself. Unless you mean the leaks, which should always be taken with a grain of salt if you are to believe them.

I say it is an overreaction because, sure, they had a decade long story, but more than half of that was by the seat of their pants, *constantly * needing to stop moving forward and needling to fix core elements of this game. Curse of Osiris infamously almost killed D2, and without the Go Fast update and Forsaken returning everything people loved from D1… Game would’ve died.

I implore you to look back on Forsaken and see that it was just… Fixing D2. The campaign, while having some incredibly memorable story beats, was just… Not good. A bulk of the campaign consisted of Lost Sector like missions in the world that had you killing most of the Barons, with some bigger set piece missions spriklnkled in there.

All I’m trying to say is the only difference between now and then is that we had expansion names up front. Otherwise, about 6 months out, we would get our reveal, and them more info from there as we got closer. If anything, they are talking about Frontiers ahead of schedule. Usually wouldn’t expect anything until like… November/December.

They are in damage control mode, trying to push update son content faster, but with less staff to do it. I imagine it’s hell in Bungie HQ for the devs. Fuck their leadership though.

morbidcactus, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?

My partner and I gave up destiny before witchqueen dropped, played pretty consistently since house of wolves with a pause just before forsaken until shadow keep. Absolutely loved the core mechanics and the PvP is some of my favourite, but it just felt so stale, barely any new maps, sunsetting old ones, lack of committing to ideas (4v4 was actually solid, some of the maps do not play well in 6s, 3s are fine though), rotating gamemode playlists like d1 had (for 6s I find control annoying after a while, 3s I liked relic in d1, mix in elimination and I’d be good)

It’s a shame because as I said, core mechanics rock, slug shorties and hand cannons feel amazing, and fusion rifles are legitimately awesome as well. I have really solid memories of doing stupid things with stuff like the Le Monarque and No Land Beyond. Wasn’t a huge fan of some metas but had some fun times with the games.

FlashMobOfOne, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of September 8th
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Mostly Neverwinter Nights.

We’ve had more active players on the server I DM for, so I’ve been popping in more often to run quests and ambience for all the newbies.

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