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CalcProgrammer1, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it
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They already refuse to fix their EAC so that the game can run on Linux so I can’t not play their game any more than I already do. I played Paladins briefly when Overwatch was having its China drama and enjoyed it, but I’m done booting Windows to play games.

sparrow,
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Their game runs just fine on Linux. Been playing it there for months now.

CalcProgrammer1,
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Paladins doesn’t, the anti-cheat kicks you out if you play anything other than the tutorial.

mihnt, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it
@mihnt@kbin.social avatar

Ugh. I used to love what Hi-Rez put out. Global Agenda was probably my favorite game by them. From my home state as well. They've always made terrible business decisions though. This, of course, is no exception

r0bi,

GA was my first introduction to them, I should have learned when that closed down. The loss of Tribes was a huge blow.

Arotrios, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it
@Arotrios@kbin.social avatar

This reduces the minuscule interest I had in replaying Paladins to a negative number. Smite's been nothing but frustrating garbage, but I thought that with a bit of polish and a lot more character development, Paladins had promise when it came out. Starting a labor dispute to begin a practice that will degrade the overall quality of the game means it's not worth my hard disk space to install their products - it's clear things are only going to get worse for Hi-Rez titles from here.

Ezergill, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it

Haven’t played for a couple of years now, but honestly loved Paladins and Smite appealed to me in concept (never really had enough time to spare to learn how to play MOBA). While the communities and creatives in and around the games are awesome, it’s been known that the higher-ups and some of the management are extremely shitty forever. It’s one of the reasons why the games didn’t get the attention they deserve, why the promising esports scenes around them are dead etc. Not surprised, but still sad they’ve decided to fuck over the VAs like that and shoot themselves in the foot once again in terms of reputation

snipgan, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it
@snipgan@kbin.social avatar

I definitely think some sort of residuals or compensation for reusing their voice AI should happen if they are profiting off of it.

That being said, I see a world in the very near future where voice actors don't even act out their lines and just say a number of things for recording to train an AI voiced version of themselves. Then directors/creators and just manipulate and use it as they please to create their product.

Some mods in games are getting this already, voiced Morrowind and the like, and I definitely seeing it as a boon. Voice acting has always been a weak point when it came to stuff like that as you can write/script/design the best you can but can lack decent/any voice acting.

Interested to see how things play out.

greenskye,

Yep, even if they don’t clone an existing VA, they’ll be able to find others willing to sell their voice for AI, or just have an AI generate a voice from a mixture of different people. The existing VAs will then never be hired.

Accurate and well executed computer voice is a goal of too many technologies to remain unsolved for long. It sucks for the VAs, but there’s no way to go back.

sirjash,

This world is already here, and it’s not even limited to creative industries. Deutsche Bahn AG, the German railway corporation, has already implemented this for the announcements in their stations.

orca, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it
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I will happily continue to not pay for games that do this and I won’t be missing out on anything.

This is on par with restaurants that microwave garbage food. They’re phoning it in to squeeze as much profit as possible out of the product. That tells me you don’t want to make games people enjoy, you want to make games that do nothing but maximize profit. I ain’t here for that shit. I’m willing to pay money for companies that respect art and trades, not ones that worship capitalism and exist to appease assholes in suits.

PonyOfWar, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it

It will be interesting to see how these kind of things develop over the next few years. Of course, it’s very enticing for developers to use AI voices, as they can probably save massive amounts of money through it. Will the voice actors have any options to stop this?

tissek,

Unionizing. Voice actors’ union can say no work will be done with studios using ai voices. Similarly to what writers guild is doing towards Hollywood.

Collective pressure and bargaining works.

Will it work 100%? Nope. But it will work well enough.

greenskye,

I mean it won’t be too long until they don’t need any human VAs at all, so they could just completely ignore the union.

blindsight,

And lots of non-VAs/amateurs/non-union-VAs will be willing to sell their voice for a day’s work and a shockingly small cheque. You don’t need professional voice actors if you can get a wide enough range of voices to mix to simulate any desired voice. “Voice mixing” will be a new job pretty quickly.

Jaysyn, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

It sucks that I can't boycott their garbage anymore than I already do.

Dagrothus,

Not sure I’d really consider it boycotting if their product is garbage anyways

IWantToFuckSpez,

Torrent and share their games to affect their bottom line.

aStonedSanta,

They are online only games and free. So there’s no piracy you can really pull.

narc0tic_bird,

Torrenting their free-to-play games?

verysoft, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it

HiRez being scummy? Well I never, thats not like them at all....

aegisgfx877,
@aegisgfx877@kbin.social avatar

Tribes.. thats all I need to say

parrot-party,
@parrot-party@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, the could release the best game ever made and I'd still avoid it.

Infiltrated_ad8271, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

They are scammers who do not comply with the law, these unethical practices are minor things to them.

NotTheOnlyGamer, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it
@NotTheOnlyGamer@kbin.social avatar

Cool. Now I really want to play Smite. If only it were available without DRM.

Targox, do games w Starfield review embargo date is Thursday August 31st at 9AM PT / 12PM ET / 5PM UK
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Aa a playstation gamer, I still can’t believe that a new Bethesda game isn’t releasing for ps5. Well played Microsoft. Imagine if Skyrim was never released on Sony consoles

nanoUFO,
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Microsoft is a trillion dollar monopolistic anti competitive anti consumer company so once their eyes landed on the gaming space you knew it would result in bad things.

ArchmageAzor,
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It probably will, eventually

Naz, do games w Starfield will be nearly 140GB on PC (Microsoft Store) and 126.1GB on Xbox Series X / S

I’m so glad the prices on M.2s have dropped. Picked up a 2TB Samsung 850 Pro for his under $100 earlier this year.

SkullHex2, (edited ) do games w Fallout 4 GOTY is now available DRM-free on GOG
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  • conciselyverbose, (edited )

    I'm not sure the actual answer to that.

    There are some games that aren't DRM free on Steam that do go on GOG and remove the DRM. In some cases (unfortunately) the GOG version doesn't get consistently updated like the Steam version.

    It's kind of a habit for people telling you about GOG deals or promos to mention that it's DRM free whether the Steam version has DRM or not, because DRM free is the primary selling point of the store. (They also sometimes include hacks/patches to deal with compatibility with modern systems that aren't always on the Steam version.) It isn't necessarily meant to imply that any other versions have DRM (though in a lot of cases they do).

    rikudou,
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    90% of the time Steam games do have DRM. Especially the AAA titles.

    forgotaboutlaye,

    At some level, even a "DRM Free" game like The Witcher could still be argued as having DRM since you need to authenticate your purchase with steam to download it.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    But you need to do the same on GOG, no? So that’s kind of a silly argument imo.

    Once it’s downloaded, you can copy the game directory somewhere else and never need to download it again.

    Thalfon,

    Pretty close to the same at least. The main distinction would be that the Steam version still requires a copy of Steam to be running and logged in on the computer you copy it to, which at least means Steam has to have been online once ever to get the account logged in before using offline mode. GOG has offline installers that can be backed up and used without any client.

    For the vast majority of use cases, it’s a pretty minor difference, but one way in which it might be significant is that the GOG installers will never stop working, but if one day years down the road Steam were to shut down, the Steam version could only run on computers that could be running offline-mode Steam. There’d probably be ways to break that simple bit of DRM, but a legal offline installer is a very nice bonus for things like archival sites or research applications.

    It’s the kind of thing that even if you’re not choosing to use it, it’s nice that it exists, and hopefully it can continue to.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    I don’t think you do need Steam running. If it’s truly DRM-free, just copy the game directory to a new machine and the game will run. Don’t launch through Steam, launch it directly from the game directory.

    I’ve run games directly without Steam running on a handful of occasions, such as when someone else is using my Steam account (e.g. my kids on my other computer) and I want to play a game. I could probably play in offline mode I guess, but running it directly isn’t that hard.

    It’s not an installer, but I don’t need an installer when I already have all the game files in one directory.

    DosDude, do stauf_mansion w The 7th Guest VR - Introducing Edward Knox
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    Cool to see Greg in this game! Excited to see the game soon.

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