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deus, do games w Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss

Amazon are also rumoured to be working on a Steam competitor, called “Vapor”

Oh great, yet another launcher.

slumberlust,

Don’t worry, they havent made a game worth playing yet.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

I'm not worried. They literally titled it "Vaporware". If that doesn't show how insanely out of touch they are then nothing will.

Dozens of companies have tried to make storefronts and launchers to claw back some market share but none have come close to feature parity with Steam.

Nipah,
@Nipah@kbin.social avatar

The main problem is that its not enough to be competitive with Steam at this point... you need to put out something so good that it give people enough of a reason to leave the comfort of Steam... you need Steam and then another layer of goodness on top of Steam.

This is the same issue that a lot of MMOs had when trying to become a WoW killer. You not only needed to have pretty much everything Blizzard put into the game, but more on top because otherwise why would anyone bother to leave the comforts of Azeroth to play something that is maybe marginally better, or a possibly worse experience?

BudgieMania,

Yeah... A new store would need to have a handful of killer apps and significant feature superiority over Steam, all on release, just to have a chance at being a successful competitor. And it would probably need to maintain that momentum for a decent amount of time, and it would probably also need a fuckup on Valve's part.

Freakin EA didn't achieve it, freakin Sony didn't bother trying it, Epic dropped a fuckton of cash just to barely move the needle. I can't imagine what it would take.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Well, maybe? A Steam competitor could try what Epic did and offer better deals. This time to publishers and players if they actually want customers. Or they could try to offer things Steam doesn't. Or they could just try for parity and see if it works? We haven't seen a platform with parity yet so maybe people would want a new option?

SandLight,

But if Amazon does it, it will be a rushed out steaming pile with half the features and twice the price, as is their custom.

szczuroarturo,

The thing is Amazon dosent exatcly need to be competetive.heck they could make it basicaly a Amazon prime semi-exclusive platform for games basicaly competing with xbox game pass instead of steam or with both of them at once

Hadriscus,

Obligatory xkcd

Earthwormjim91,

Could they be any less original?

Their competitor to Steam is just… another word for Steam.

drmoose,

My guess it’s just an internal name to boost morale, inside joke sort of thing. Many software projects do that. Would be funny if that was the name though

SgtAStrawberry,

They already have one where the put most of the prime games called “Amazon Games App”. So if “Vapor” is something new it is more of another another launcher.

If they however just update the game app to also be a store front, it be fine I guess. I’m not thrilled about everyone needing there own launcher, but Amazon already has one, so can’t really blame them for spicing it up a bit, to be at they other launchers level.

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

Amazon already tried, with a Twitch branded game launcher and included game licenses for that platform in Amazon Prime.

bionicjoey, do games w Tenebris Somnia is an 8-bit horror adventure with a flashy twist

Any Matt Colville fans think of the Somnium Tenebris?

PeterPoopshit, (edited ) do games w Starfield Steam Deck performance report: a frontier too far

As a die hard Windows hater that games (I haven’t had Windows installed on any pc I own since 2015) all of the AAA games always get absolutely dogshit performance when they first come out. It was like that with Cyberpunk and it was like that with Hogwarts Legacy. Today, those games play just as well on Windows as on Linux. I’m sure they’ll eventually work it out

nanoUFO, (edited )
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

I remember seeing a video where they compared linux to windows starfield performance and it was basically the same on average fps but the 1% lows were less prevalent on linux so it might actually work better on linux.

Ah here I found it www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC6fb889qo4

PeterPoopshit, (edited )

I bet it works fine on amd gpus right now. If you’re on a 10 series Nvidia card you’re fucked. If you’re on a newer Nvidia card it’s still kind of bad though but not every protondb report involving Nvidia 3xxx or 4xxx cards is complaining about performance. I suspect there exists some kind of performance fix for later Nvidia cards that is not yet well known.

The latest driver is 537.13 I think. Most of the time they only bother to put every multiple of 5 driver version in Linux distro repositories. Someone that was familiar with how exactly the low level parts of this worked could manually get driver 537 working on Linux probably. No idea if that would work or not but I haven’t seen someone claim to have tried it yet.

updawg,

I get a lot of crashes on my rx 6700s, mainly when loading into Neon or The Well

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’m on a 6600 XT and have had not a single crash. I wonder what the difference is. I’m using Pop! with the Liquorix kernel.

updawg,

I’m on Windows 11

circuitfarmer, (edited )
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

As someone playing on Linux desktop, yes. It’s fine*.

*as fine as it can be, because it needs some general optimization

Edit: and yes, I’m on AMD (it’s the obvious choice for Linux gaming; drivers are in the kernel)

FrankTheHealer,

To be fair, Cyberpunk’s performance was awful for everyone at launch, Windows, Linux and consoles.

At one point I remember seeing someone on Reddit show that the game was less likely to crash on Linux than on Windows. In that regard, one could argue the performance was better for Linux users when Cyberpunk launched. Mind you, the games was still a buggy mess at launch too.

circuitfarmer, (edited )
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Cyberpunk’s performance was awful for everyone at launch, Windows, Linux and consoles.

But it wasn’t? There were a lot of bugs, to be sure, but PC performance was not among them. Hell, I was on a 970 at the time, and it was still fine.

The console versions specifically were a shit show.

But in regards to running better on Linux, a lot of it tends to come down to shader precaching. Lots of stutters on Windows are the first time a shader loads. That was definitely the case with Elden Ring.

dyma, do games w Starfield Steam Deck performance report: a frontier too far
@dyma@lemmy.world avatar

mods aren’t for everyone but the Steam Deck Essentials mod boosted me like 10 fps in most areas and I’ve had a pretty good time

HidingCat,

This is hilarious, a mod released within a week of the game's launch boosts it by 10 FPS. Why can modders do it but not the dev team?

PutangInaMo,

Because they’re free and can be counted on.

dyma,
@dyma@lemmy.world avatar

I’m gonna give the devs the benefit of the doubt and say maybe they don’t want to ship compressed textures by default since plenty of people will need them to play on ultra settings, but a modder can cater to the smaller, dedicated fanbase on the steam deck. but idk I’m not a dev

moogs,

Most likely because it makes the game look more potato than the Devs were willing to allow

caseyweederman, do games w Tenebris Somnia is an 8-bit horror adventure with a flashy twist

Ooh. Will I find the front door key inside the jack-o-lantern?

EarthlingHazard, do games w Starfield Steam Deck performance report: a frontier too far

I don’t think anyone is surprised to hear that it does not run well on the deck. Personally I’ll be streaming the game with game pass if I want to play on steam deck

FrankTheHealer,

What do you use to stream game pass games on Steam Deck?

I have a ton of older games in my Xbox library that I’d love to play on Steam Deck

EarthlingHazard,

Microsoft has a guide for it actually and it works pretty well:

…microsoft.com/…/xbox-cloud-gaming-in-microsoft-e…

singularity,

I’m using Greenlight, which I find to be more convenient than the official way: github.com/unknownskl/greenlight

Ismay, (edited ) do games w Starfield Steam Deck performance report: a frontier too far

Too bad the performances are not the biggest problem with that game

Sooooo boring, shitty interface, emotionless characters, the starting plot is dumb as f. I’m really happy to have taken the pass to test it, would have been a waste of money

Well more time for bg3 and sea of stars

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

That sounds like fallout 4 in a nutshell, a game that I couldn’t stand more than an hour of.

aesopjah,

The starting sequence is waaay too long.

Hey, I’ve got an idea for how to start our go-anywhere do-anything space exploration game! 8 hours of hand holding tutorial quests ought to be plenty of buildup, right? None of this exciting dragon attack starting sequence BS, let’s really bore the hell out of our players.

toxicbubble, do games w Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss

i imagine Netflix games would end in a cliffhanger then cancelled before a sequel, google games will track your usage for personalized ads, apple games will eventually require accessories & dongles, amazon will slowly buy smaller studios & become the next EA

dangblingus, do games w Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss

Anyone else just getting to a point where, given the writing on the wall, they feel gaming sort of already peaked? Amazon gaming? Netflix gaming? Apple? Yeah. No thanks. None of those companies are game companies. All of their offerings are going to be excessively monetized. All of it is going to be about data gathering instead of engaging fun games. It’s going to be AI driven. Yuck. Good thing I still have Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 3 to play.

Chailles,
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

People have been saying that gaming is dying and that its reached its peak for like… decades now. With the advent of game creation being more accessible and more available than ever (still), gaming isn’t going to die.

gveltaine,

The same thing was said about Microsoft when they released the Xbox as well when it was first announced

bfg9k, do games w Starfield Steam Deck performance report: a frontier too far

I barely get 30-45fps at 1080p with an rtx 2070, not surprised the Deck is struggling.

BruceTwarzen,

That is just the Bethesda experience

Brunbrun6766, do games w Epic are hiring for a Fortnite open world survival game
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

So…the original game…

stratoscaster,

Iirc the original game was wave-defence. I remember hearing about it in 2012 ages ago, but they axed it soon after they released the battle royale

TrousersMcPants,

Nah they didn’t axe it, they just really limited development. You can still buy and play the game and it’s alright. Frankly if it wasn’t for the battle Royale mode no one would be talking about Fortnite today, I played the testing from before BR mode and it wasn’t that cool.

BlinkerFluid, do games w Epic are hiring for a Fortnite open world survival game
@BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one avatar

What kind of survival game?


Get out of here, Stalker!

yelling at Darth Vader

jopepa, do games w Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss

Gatekeeper reports, Outsiders are scary and different

dangblingus,

Who do you want shaping your console gaming experience? Sony or Amazon?

jopepa,

“Or”? I’d rather have the consoles makers and game developers working independently so that we don’t have to wait twenty years for Crash Bandicoot to become available on Nintendo. Fuck Amazon but Sony isn’t looking out for the gamer when they make Spider-Man a PS exclusive.

Dagnet, do games w Sea of Stars devs working on DLC and next game as throwback RPG sells a year’s worth of copies in one week

And that’s while being on game pass, so they technically ‘sold’ even more. Been playing it myself, very charming game

lechatron,
@lechatron@lemmy.today avatar

It’s also on the PS+ game library. I just found out about the game today and was happily surprised to find it already available to me.

njm1314, do games w Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss

Like anyone is worried about more Google gaming. It’s like an idiot tax on people who are too dumb to have learned not to trust them.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

I did some of my gaming for like 2 years for basically free thanks to Google’s refund, and got free gaming hardware (controllers)… call me an idiot or call me a genius, but, that was a heck of a deal.

drmoose,

Honestly I really like Play Pass on android. Mostly because it’s only 3usd here thanks to regional pricing and there’s a lot of great value! My issue is that Google generally sucks at keeping things going so I’d never invest anything beyond that with them.

My Steam account from 2006 is still going, all of the games work, it’s mostly the same platform but better. I don’t think Google can match that.

hogart,
@hogart@feddit.nu avatar

This. Valve is doing a lot of good. People can claim they are doing a lot of bad as well but I can’t mention many companies with purity from top to bottom.

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