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rodneylives, do games w The RPG that inspired Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Demon’s Souls is now more playable than ever - Wizardry!

Wizardry inspired a lot of games, but the three games listed have greater influences elsewhere. (FF and DQ in particular are more like Ultima.) Sadly the games that were most inspired by Wizardry, sometimes called “blobbers,” have mostly died out: The classic Bard’s Tale games, Might & Magic, Dungeon Master and Eye of the Beholder. Etrian Odyssey and the Japanese Wizardry games hold the torch but are pretty niche these days.

The demise of the original Wizardry series is one of the greatest injustices in the history of computer gaming, up there with the closing of the original Atari.

CubitOom, do games w The RPG that inspired Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Demon’s Souls is now more playable than ever - Wizardry!

Here’s a link to the developers website since i didnt see it in the article

www.digitaleclipse.com/games/wizardry

ObsidianZed,

Man, I fucking hate articles like that.

"This Steam/GOG game on sale at lowest price ever!”

And then refuses to actually link to it at the store.

jawa21, do games w The RPG that inspired Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Demon’s Souls is now more playable than ever - Wizardry!
@jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’ve never had the drive to beat any of the Wizardry games.They are simply too difficult for this filthy casual.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

You might enjoy CRPG Addict’s blog posts about his adventure in Wizardry for DOS.

I beat it through emulation and save scumming, but his playthrough was a lot more tactical, and now Im starting to understand I’m not support to just hit the attack button over and over again!

rodneylives,

DOS Wizardry has a significant bug that makes it one of the worst versions.

moshankey, do games w The RPG that inspired Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Demon’s Souls is now more playable than ever - Wizardry!

High school. Wizardry and Ultima. I am so old

Pronell,

You are older than me, I suppose. I was playing it at 11 years old or so. My first CRPG, although my dad had run a D&D game for the family a few years prior so I had a reference point.

I remember my cousin telling us about the Creeping Coins and my imagination went wild, assuming you could loot them and they’d attack you later from your inventory.

Nope. Just normal randomly spawning encounter.

theRealBassist,

Awesome idea for a D&D monster though. A coin mimic which only attacks when you try to spend it lol

Pronell,

I will have to try and use it. I am running Curse of Strahd now so cursed money would be spectacular!

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

And good old Bard’s Tale. :)

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w The RPG that inspired Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Demon’s Souls is now more playable than ever - Wizardry!

It inspired like, every Japanese game ever made, not only those listed.

And if Wizardry didn’t inspire it, then Ultima did.

Cybersteel,
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

I remember playing Xanadu and was like hey this is just Ultima but jap.

Kissaki, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon
FeelzGoodMan420, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

Zzzzzzzzzz

Hugh_Jeggs, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

I’m starting to dislike the word “leaks” being used in place of “advertised” almost as much as I despise seeing the word “slams” in headlines

apprehensively_human,

Lemmy user slams game developer over use of controlled leaks

Hugh_Jeggs,

Lemmy user has prostate problems, slams his cock against toilet in attempt to produce leaks

HawlSera,

It’s how copros talk now, they saw “Leaks” are spicier than “Reveals”

It’s just what they do, they co-opt our langauge and misuse it. Plenty of restaurants around here claiming their cheap menu items are “Hunger Hacks”

When no they aren’t, as a hack would be a manipulation of loopholes to get a result not intended by the person who made the rules, a cheap item menu clearly listed is not a hack.

rwhitisissle, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

Deadlock sounds like the name of a no-budget indie horror game that would release on Steam for a dollar. Not a big budget Apexwatch or Overlegends or…whatever you call this style of game.

lemmyvore,

They’re actually two different genres, team deathmatch and battle royale. This Deadlock would be the former.

rwhitisissle,

Wikipedia says that Overwatch and Apex Legends are each part of the “Hero Shooter” genre (boy does that sound like an uninteresting genre). I’m guessing there are greater subdivisions of play structure that matches what you’re describing, but it all sounds like an uninteresting blend of character based FPS, like multiplayer Borderlands. I guess that’s where modern gaming is, though, since these really took off after 2016, which is solidly after my “hardcore gaming” days were mostly over.

lemmyvore,

character based FPS, like multiplayer Borderlands

That applies too, but it’s orthogonal to game structure. MOBAs also tend to be character based and you can add it to basically any game (eg. card based rogues like Slay the Spire).

But there are also lots of battle royales without characters (like PUBG or Fortnite) and team deathmatch without characters like CS.

TheOakTree, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

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I’m not really understanding why this portrait looks this way… Is the black blob on the bottom left his bent leg? If it is his bent leg, what’s the tan colored bit at the bottom? Or is the black blob some random giant pouch on his hip, alongside the other more pouch-like object on his hip? Is the bow being held close to his body (arm bent?) or does he have a short left arm?

So many questions…

Khrux,

Oh noooo, I hate this art and design style:(

Lojcs,

I think he’s wearing a skirt

ryannathans, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

I’ll wait for the final release, Deadlock 2 /s

teawrecks, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

The only part of this that interests me is how they decide to handle anti-cheat on linux.

LennethAegis,
@LennethAegis@kbin.social avatar

Don't they already have VAC?

ianhclark510,
@ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

VAC is far from flawless

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

All anticheat is far from flawless lol

erwan,

It’s from Valve, they’ll make sure it works on the Steam Deck.

Caligvla, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Valve’s

Oh?

hero shooter

Oh…

SoupBrick,
Mint,

I’m assuming you didn’t enjoy Team Fortress 2 then?

Kissaki,

TF2 was great before they increased the player limit (I think that was before it became free to play?). It was a hero shooter with strategy and synergy. It became a spammy farm fest with too many items and too many players for what the maps were designed for.

Mint,

You’re not op?

Kissaki,

Is that a rhetorical question?

Mint,

That wasn’t a question, but statement. I was asking op whether they played tf2

HawlSera,

Eh Marvel’s Hero Shooter looks pretty good…

Though why people are making Hero Shooters NOW when Overwatch 2 has outright murdered public interest in the genre, I have no idea.

BmeBenji, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon

Sounds like the Team Fortress 2 team has been busy, but didn’t want to count to 3

perishthethought, do gaming w Valve’s hero shooter Deadlock leaks with screenshots, gameplay details - Polygon
@perishthethought@lemm.ee avatar

They had me at tower defense mechanics.

lemmyvore,

They’re surprisingly fun and I wonder why more team deathmatch games don’t include them.

I used to play Tremulous and it was super addictive to live and die by your base elements. Gives the game a whole new dimension about strategy and teamwork.

apotheotic,

Oh my god thank you for reminding me that tremulous existed. I spent so many hours playing that

Midnitte,

I’ve never heard of it, did it serve as inspiration for Natural Selection?

lemmyvore, (edited )

Here is some gameplay (from the alien camp point of view). This is another good example of gameplay.

Apparently both Natural Selection and Tremulous were inspired by the Gloom mod for Quake 2, according to the Tremulous FAQ:

Development on Tremulous began long before NS was in the public domain. If Tremulous is inspired by anything, it is inspired by Gloom for Quake 2. NS has a similar ancestry (please see Game Developer Magazine February 2001 issue); this is probably where the confusion arises.

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