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PlasmaTrout, do gaming w We can't keep making videogame stories for players who aren't paying attention to them

I go back and forth on this a lot. I’ve been gaming since the Atari 2600 and I agree this happens in games, but personally disagree that Veilguard was a clear example. I really enjoyed that title and platnum’ed it. I think it’s more likely, that just like music, movies and tv, expensive studios tend to use the most profit / least risk model. So if a game is appealing for age 1 to age 80 it gives them the least risk and the widest demographic. To further minimize that risk, every game has to have the same stupid Hollywood pitch lines of “Oh this game is <insert popular title here as X> but with a different Y and a new Z” in order to get traction from investors. Boring and dull are side effects of it. The fact it started to spread in the RPG genre is just another level of degradation.

TheGreenWizard, do gaming w We can't keep making videogame stories for players who aren't paying attention to them

I wanna blame the writers more for this but honestly, I think a lot of Netflix writers know their audience is just on their phone. I have people in my life that just watch their phone, notice they missed something, then REWIND THE SCENE so I get to watch twice. It really is bad, it happens with people older and younger than me.

CubitOom, do games w Whisper of the House takes the cosy isometric decorating of Unpacking and unleashes it upon an entire town like an ultra-relaxing endless mode

Unpacking is a great game because of the storytelling. This seems promising but unless it has a similar ability to weave a narrative then it won’t be to fun to play.

t3rmit3, do gaming w We can't keep making videogame stories for players who aren't paying attention to them

Exposition != story.

A good story can be (and usually is) told with minimal exposition. AAA games being exposition-fests is a result of game executives and writers infantilising players in the name of “widest audience appeal”.

Call_Me_Maple, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world avatar

Fuckin guy, completed his little car collection and dipped after leaving Bungie in a worse state than it’s ever been.

rafoix,

Living the dream of shameless profit.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

His replacement’s not much better. Lots of mixed sentiment from past employees, and even though he did acknowledge it with a joke, the “overdelivery” thing is such a red flag to carry.

I quit the game this past fall after literally 12k hours on steam. Huge number of growing reasons, but the top reason has always been the way bungie c-suite treats their devs and their players. One of the most toxic in the industry by a mile.

Venicon, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@Venicon@lemmy.world avatar

Might be bitter but I lost interest when I bought Destiny years ago and the main campaign just…stopped. To be continued only when buying DLC. Never spent a penny on them since as I believe a game you buy should be the entire thing end to end with additional content available to purchase. I wanted a main storyline with conclusion.

thejoker954,

I lost interest when I first tried Destiny 2 years after it was 1st released and realized they didn’t seem interested in new players.

Too many storylines merging and diverging before you have any idea whats happening.

It was like reading a book (and it’s series) out of order.

TheFeatureCreature,
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca avatar

I stopped playing when I learned the DLC I paid for would be removed and no longer accessible. I already had some growing negative sentiment towards the game at that point but being outright ripped off was the last straw.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yep. I didn’t have a huge issue with them charging for new DLC. If the DLC is good then fine, devs gotta eat.

When they sunset content that I paid for and tell me it’s no longer accessible, that’s when I dropped the game like a hot potato. Should have requested a refund, actually.

WhiteOakBayou, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit

I didn’t know destiny 2 was still going. I played it for like a year after release before getting tired of it but it was fun enough. The only game I’ve played since then was elden ring so I’m not real up on the times

TwinTitans, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

Fucked that company to near death. You do not deserve retirement.

InfiniteHench, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar

Good, the game needs some fresh leadership. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that on the same day they announced this, Bungie also announced that all previous season passes will soon return to a kiosk in-game and you can finish them at any time (yes like the Helldivers model). Plus, players who never got the pass before will be able to buy them for a pretty reasonable price (around $6 USD I believe).

bigmclargehuge,
@bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

Does this mean that sunsetted content can be played again (ie the original campaign)? If so I would mayhe consider getting back into it. Otherwise I still have no interest in returning

InfiniteHench,
@InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar

No, I think Forsaken (Dreaming City) is the oldest content still in the game. If you want to see the old campaign I’m sure there are playthroughs on YouTube you could watch.

bigmclargehuge,
@bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

Considering I payed to play those campaigns, not watch them on YouTube, I’ll just save my time. Warframe has scratched the Destiny itch for me in recent years while also respecting me as a customer

lime, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@lime@feddit.nu avatar

a “traditional battlefield experience” for me will always be the guadalcanal map. are we getting that back?

Deyis,

For me, it’s crashing on take-off on Tobruk which I don’t think we’ll ever get back.

nullpotential,

For me it’s getting sniped, respawning, getting sniped, respawning, getting sniped…

Deyis,

You should definitely consider playing Hell Let Loose!

t3rmit3,

Desert Combat was so much fun. Really great memories from that mod.

JillyB,

Is that the one with the A10 and cluster bombs?

t3rmit3,

I think so. I was mostly a chopper pilot flying blackhawks so I don’t recall most of the fixed wing aircraft, but an A10 would make sense.

JillyB,

If it’s not a solid 10 minutes to load a map on my parents e-machines PC, it doesn’t feel like Battlefield.

TabbsTheBat, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

Mm movement :3

Cevilia, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'

“The Sweaty Movement”

Deyis,

Smells as bad as it sounds.

RollForInitiative, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'

What a shitty title. They could just leave out the first part, wouldn’t change the meaning.

Deyis,

They could have taken out “sweaty” and kept the same meaning but that probably wouldn’t have driven the same engagement.

ranandtoldthat,

“Sweaty” has a specific connotation in video games, so it does provide some meaning.

Deyis,

A specifically negative and demeaning connotation which isn’t necessary.

ranandtoldthat,

Maybe? I’m not that deep in “gamer” culture, so I always just thought of it as descriptive of a particular intensity of play that leads to sweaty palms. We all experience that from time to time, some prefer it, others don’t.

t3rmit3,

No, it means the guys who don’t take hygiene seriously. The Cartman Gamers, so to speak.

Vodulas,

No, it means the other. It is typically used in competitive games. The unshowered gamer is kind of an outdated trope at this point.

t3rmit3,

Interesting. TIL

often used interchangeably with “try-hard” as a newer version of the terminology

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Flamekebab, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

Interesting.. I felt like I was the only person that doesn't care for that kind of movement in shooters.

Deyis,

It really depends on the kind of shooter and the average caffeine intake of the people playing it. Works great in Titanfall but doesn’t make sense for Battlefield.

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

It feels like an additional layer of mechanics that I didn't sign up for. I used it as necessary when playing Titanfall 2 but didn't care for it there either!

DieserTypMatthias, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml avatar

Just give them Counter-Strike running speeds with slow walk and with crouch.

Deyis,

You’d run faster with your knife out.

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