Jesus christ. People need to realize that this is a scam. No video game is worth thousands of your dollars, especially a decade old game still in alpha.
It isn’t a scam, just incredibly mismanaged. Chris Robert’s has a very hard time saying “this is good enough” and that makes the company bleed money as they repeatedly remake things. People then don’t tell Chris no. They weren’t making a good space Sim, they were making the best darn space Sim evah! Their wages aren’t great and now they are trying to push illegal levels of crunch time till they got caught.
They’ve completely redone the flight model several times to various levels of success. Time frames get so damm long that they have to go back and remake huge chunks of the game in order to keep things up to snuff graphically.
I get the feeling that they never felt the need to stress out about timelines as the funding kept rolling in, in fact the funding accelerated over time! The game has 183 different ships all designed down to the tiniest detail in the game right now. That’s a fuck ton of work hours, but ship sales gets the funding rolling so they have to keep cranking out new ships.
I do really like playing the game, but it is really a shitshow for management. There was one point where they had to throw away a massive amount of work because one studio was making things that didn’t fit the metrics for scale and animation of the rest of the game.
Edit: and ships are a dumb thing to buy anyway! You can earn them in game anyway for really not all that much work. It’s the most cost inefficient grind skip I’ve ever seen in a game.
this is just a long winded way of saying it’s a scam. if you ask for money promising something and you have no plan of delivering, it’s a scam.
they have to keep developing and redeveloping because they have a bunch of idiots with more money than sense pumping money to them. if they actually finish the game and release it chances are revenue will come crashing down. selling a promise is much better than selling a finished product because people like to wishcast and throw money at their own hopes and imagination. anything missing they fill in the blanks. surely the game will deliver eventually.
Are you asking this about any other games? GTA6 doesn’t have a release date yet, do you have the same worry?
… Genuinely, I do see the difference between the two, but it’s weird to me that people are calling it out for things that aren’t said. They say enough; if you can’t make complaints based on reality, that’s a bit lazy.
Edit: for what it’s worth, I’ll “move the goalposts” on this one if you come back with some nonsense around how they haven’t delivered anything yet. I’ve played a fair few hours on my ship (probably a few hundred over the last decade), despite not having invested millions of pounds.
Sorry, I’m confusing a conversation I saw the other day that said we’d have had two GTAs in the same time star citizen had been in development for. Weird comparison.
Do you think they don’t intend to deliver? If so, we fundamentally disagree.
yes it is. if you’re asking for money you should have a reasonable plan for paying it off. you can’t just take money and say well, let’s just see how things turn out.
well, you clearly can, but I’m not gonna pretend it’s legit
it’s out? I can finally buy the finished product? awesome! I couldn’t find it on steam though. surely it must have come out on steam, such a big release.
maybe I’m typing “star citizen” wrong. could you link me to the store page? thank you for informing me, I’m so ready to take back everything I said once I start playing.
i don’t care about people alpha testing unfinished games. I’ve been talking about release. they said “it’s out”. where is it. what’s the plan. when was it finished. why is it not out. stop trying to feed me bullshit, you’re confusing me with someone who lives on hype alone. if I were I’d be playing the star citizen half-game myself.
I mean you don’t live on hype, neither do i, but you do live on hate, as someone else here already pointed out, in fact you seem to engaged by hating this game, and anyone who likes it, it seems unhealthy. idk, maybe do some introspection if the yearly star citizen clickbait makes you rage to this degree and consider not using the web for a while, and seeing the rest of your comments across the site only backs up this assessment.
you have called for people to be jailed due to not making the games you want, ffs
hate? what’s with you guys weirdly anthropomorphizing a game that’s only maybe halfway done in a decade? you got too invested, too attached maybe, that someone calling it a scam seems “hateful” however that works? rage? lol wtf have you seen anyone rage before, mate? calling something a scam is not personal, it’s not even an attack. and it’s definitely something I live on. I have called people to be jailed for swindling.
how much money has this game extracted from dummies over the past decade? how much money’s worth is “playable”? I was gonna say “out” since that was the original claim but obviously the answer is zero. the games not out. but I’ll settle for playable since apparently you guys have already given up hope on an actual release and have settled on playing half baked demos bit by bit.
pointing out that you’re being scammed is not hate. it’s a wake up call. I understand though, an alarm clock seems hateful to me too when I’m enjoying my dream too much.
you called Ubisoft to be jailed because they dissolved your favorite game studios, also your entire basis in calling it a scam is it not being done in a time span to your liking, what else is this but a poor excuse for you to dogpile some hate on something other?
sorry i didnt realize you were rummaging through my comment history to find something to attack because you cant come up with a good argument in the relevant conversation so i thought you meant i was talking about this scam.
I don’t know what depths of your ass you pulled that the team of the latest prince of persia is my “favorite game studio”. I think you should be jailed for playing with people’s livelihoods despite their success merely for more profit, yes.
a time span to my liking? how about any time span? tell me when it’s coming out mate. where’s the plan? you don’t know why I’m calling it a scam, you don’t know what I criticized about it… why is it so hard for you to follow a conversation?
I wouldn’t say running through, I did see it while looking at other stuff tho
and yes, a time span to your liking, because you clearly don’t actually care about any of the work they are doing, so by your definition anything you see that’s not already done the first time you see it is a scam that should get someone tossed in jail
The episodic rollout of SQ42 is presumed to be a way to inject new cash into the studio alongside reported plans to release higher priced ships and the rumored third game.
What?.. Higher priced ships? You’ve got to be joking…
One of my favorite ships in the game, the Drake Corsair, is already $250. It’s a great all-rounder, but it’s not even a large ship comparitively! And they’re going to start charging more for the newer ships?!
They just released a new ship as well, the RSI Zeus MKII, which is yet another $175. And that doesn’t even mention some of the larger ships like the Anvil Carrack, sitting at an insane $600, and the Origin 890 Jump at $950…
And if that’s not bad enough, they’ve had concept ships for years available for purchase in the $1,500-$2,000 range. How can these ships get more expensive?
Marketing and sales strategies are excellent for this game. It unifies in game purchases focused on whales like with mobile games and selling early access to an alpha. There’s also an aspect of collectibles and exclusivity like with NFTs. It‘s also cult like in many aspects. An utopian perfectionist vision evangelized by a prophet.
So they’ve been telling us it is done and just needs polish/finishing touches. If that’s the case it is odd they’d need sudden forced overtime for a simple demo…
Usually means almost ready for release not many years away.
Hell even in their own words it’s just around the corner.
As we move into the polishing phase, we’re fully focused on optimizing and fine-tuning all aspects of the gameplay experience to deliver an unprecedented cinematic adventure
no, no it does not, It means it is feature complete, that is all, feature complete meaning “we are about to release” is some radical redefinition shit you are doing to justify your feelings
I used to work with a guy who had thrown away upwards of $10,000 at this game. The last time it came up, he told me he had spent over $8,000, and that was several years ago and he didn't seem to be showing any signs of slowing down. When I asked him what he got for that money, he showed me the one ship he has. He had one ship. The rest were still in development and wouldn't even be released for years.
He spent more than some cars cost, for a handful of digital space ships, 90% of which aren't even finished. I have no idea how to reason with people who do this sort of thing.
I have a bunch of ships in the game. The most fun I’ve ever had in the game was after a reset I ignored all of the other ships I had and just focused on starting with the cheapest ship in the game and earning my way up. I had a blast.
I haven’t touched the game in probably 3 years, basically just waiting for more things to get finished before jumping back in. But it is hard to get excited for the game with how long it has been and how… not good things have been in the company.
These people have a mental illness. They’re being taken advantage of by unscrupulous companies. They’re in exactly the same boat as people with gambling addictions. We should feel bad for them, but not (always*) as bad as homeless folks, who are still worse off.
*One of my elementary school teachers was married to a gambling addict. The guy was secretly hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and had stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of heavy construction equipment to pay off some of his loans. The guy ended up in a police chase and took his own life before he could be arrested. His wife, the teacher, was left massively in debt (he had secretly remortgaged the family house to pay for gambling debts) and grieving the loss of her husband but also in shock at discovering the extent of his crimes and debts. Really awful situation and nothing but profits for the casinos!
Some people are defending things tooth and nail when trying to reason. Not only things like this either, might be something purchased or some ideology.
Did you mean “empathizing”? I’m having difficulty empathizing with cases like that too. I mean, ugh, it’s mind-boggling, $10k is a life-changing amount of money for most people and this guy threw it away on a game that’s not out yet. Still, people like him are being exploited for personal gain, and that is also wrong.
I mean it’s not like any person has ever to decide between “should I buy something fun” (whatever the definition of “fun” is), or rather “should I just go and donate 100$ to a random homeless dude”
Bloody hell, I spent a little over two dollars buying Elite: Dangerous (a similar space game) when it was on sale about five years ago and haven’t spent any more money on it since. I can’t even comprehend spending 10,000 dollars on an incomplete game.
The idea sounds very very similar to Last Oasis. I heard that just turned into a gank fest on launch so I never played, not sure if it is any better now.
Same as. I played it for about 2 hours not really getting very far the. the server went down for like 2 - 3 weeks (this is in early access) so I refunded. After it was back up all I heard about it was massive gank groups and the inability to play at all solo so I never bothered.
I liked the Palia beta and the Chinese New Year event. The world seems a bit dead sometimes though, and the quests can be boring. I haven't played in a while, I lost interest. I'll have to revisit it sometime.
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