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hector, do gaming w Trajectory

The shooting in R6 feels so fucking bad now. It’s also quite unbalanced :(

admin,

Wait til you try to hit a target 25 yards away with a FN 5.7 with no sight… IRL

chiliedogg,

I mean, if there’s a pistol cartidge it’s easy to shoot with precisely at medium range it’s a 5.7x28. Recoils like a 22 with downright stupid velocity. A good shooter can do a 2-3-inch 5-shot group at 25 yards without an optic on an FN FiveSeven. With a red dot, they can get 1.5 inches pretty easily.

Some would say it’s grossly underpowered, and only really useful tactically in the armor-piercing variety. But there’s no arguing it’s a breeze to shoot.

admin,

It is indeed a breeze, but as a personal preference I think is more effective at 25 yards or less, I don’t consider myself a good shooter and I have trouble hitting the target at 25 yards accurately with a 5.7, but with a 40 I can do 50 yards with ease.

Maybe the projectile speed plays a factor, also I tend to practice shoot with one hand, which might be playing against me.

chiliedogg,

You should try 10mm if you’re good with 40.

I am not. I’m too much of a skeet shooter to be good with a pistol.

admin,

I have tried it, is my girl’s favorite so we shoot it pretty often.

Edit: and how funny, I’ve never tried Skeet Shooting, but seems like a lot of fun.

chiliedogg,

Skeet shooting is a lot of fun, but trains you to jerk the trigger.

vikingtons, do games w Day 198 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

what a majestic game.

noble even.

check your vector.

MajorHavoc, do games w Day 198 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Oh, yeah. Reach is worth finishing.

There’s some great stuff.

Spoilers for Reach+ I personally found it very satisfying that the mission leading up to a space battle actually then includes participating in the space battle, and it’s fun. Most games would cutscene past what the game engine couldn’t handle, or would include a barely playable space battle. The one in Reach was a nice surprise. + The cutscene after taking down the space station is easily among the top 10 video game cutscenes, for me. It may be the most Spartan thing ever Spartan-ed. + The end fight is pretty unique. I replayed it recently with my kid, and I was amused by the respect it earned with him. I can’t even put it in a spoiler tag, though.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

i’ve heard good things about the ending fight. I’m really excited to get too it. I wish i hadn’t spoiled it for myself years ago though

MajorHavoc,

I wish i hadn’t spoiled it for myself years ago though

For what it’s worth, I read the book the game was based on, before playing the game, so I knew ::: spoiler (vague nature of a Reach spoiler) how the ending would go ::: in advance, but it still works great, even when spoiled. The game really earns it, so it works even if it’s not a surprise.

But that’s why I still can’t even include it inside a spoiler tag. Feels best to let folks find it themselves, who don’t already know.

AutoPastry, do games w Day 198 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Congrats on the new rig! What kind of hardware do you have?

200 is getting pretty close!

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Nothing too fancy, but certainly enough to get me by until i upgrade the GPU. I have a Ryzen 3700x i bought used, 32 GB of DDR4 RAM, a 1 TB NVME SSD and a 250 GB HDD, and a Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB. I planned it around having a bit of wiggle room to upgrade. The CPU is probably fine, but the GPU i want to upgrade eventually. Maybe not now, but someday

HelixDab2, do gaming w Trajectory

I would like to see a game that calculates the distance to the target, the wind speed and direction, and the mechanical accuracy of the rifle, and the adjust the bullet trajectory accordingly. E.g. an AR-15 should have a mechanical accuracy of about 2-3 MOA on average, and usually has a 50/200 zero (e.g., your optic is zeroed at 50 yards, and height over bore means that you’ll hit slightly below your point of aim at less than 50 yards, above your point of aim between 50 and 200 yards, and then below after 200). So you should have to aim, say, about 24" high on a target that’s 400y away, but then your point of impact is anywhere within about a 12" diameter circle. 7.62x39mm in an AK? You get a 25/200 zero, 4 MOA mechanical accuracy, and at 400y you have to aim 46" high.

Oh, and calculate velocity for realistic time to impact, and actual damage; at 600y, a 5.56 is doing to be stopped by pretty light body armor with minimal injury.

Essentially I’d like a game to force people to understand real-world ballistics and performance, and adjust their strategies accordingly.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

I also want the player to slow down if they get pegged in the legs. If they get hit in the arm your accuracy falls or you have to do it one armed and your accuracy really drops. If you get hit in the chest there should be at least a couple seconds where your stunned or your accuracy drops.

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  • JackbyDev,

    Helldivers 2 has a super interesting damage model. You can really notice it with a sniper rifle against the bots. You can knock off so many parts of their body.

    HelixDab2,

    TBH, most of those would simply knock you out of the fight for all practical purposes, except being hit in the chest or back in areas fully covered by armor. A rifle bullet through your shoulder can be fatal quickly without being able to pack the wound, and you won’t be able to use that arm at all if your scapula has been hit. ANY solid hit with a rifle is going to be a very, very bad time for you.

    To put it in context, armor only covers the places on your torso where a hit will cause near instant death.

    Corkyskog,
    @Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Well that’s kind of what I want. Although unfortunately this has been tried to be accomplished in the past and it was non-viable.

    Like I want it to be realistic… But 98% of gamers don’t

    engagewithzorp,

    Just play Arma with Ace installed. Already has all that and more

    RedAggroBest,

    Does anyone really play Arma, or does one person build a mission, and then everyone fucks around until that person gets frustrated and stop trying to direct anything?

    supersquirrel, (edited )

    Just go play Operation Harsh Doorstop, it is free (community funded free not microtransaction casino “free”), runs a million times better, has vehicles and support for large maps and is moddable!

    (including support for players downloading a server’s mods on connection so players only have to click on a server to try out a new gamemode or mod)

    I constantly praise this game and it is because of the crazy potential of it, it’s accessibility and the fact that the foundation is already awesome.

    …steampowered.com/…/Operation_Harsh_Doorstop/

    Or check out Easy Red 2 for realistic WW2 battles and easy and useful controls for giving orders to AI teammates.

    store.steampowered.com/app/1324780/Easy_Red_2

    (it it is usually around $9)

    Sylvartas,

    Doesn’t Tarkov model this somewhat correctly ? (Save for the wind not affecting bullets, and the optics zeroing/distance setting being a bit too arcade-y)

    pineapplelover,

    Nah the hackers don’t follow these rules

    flyingSock,

    Hotdogs horseshoes and handgrenades does all of this.

    sorter_plainview,
    Rin,

    Arma 3 did this like 10 years ago.

    They also considered thing like the speed of sound, stars in the sky and other stuff i don’t quite remember. I wonder if they simulate bullet drift from the earth spinning.

    HelixDab2,

    That’s a real thing at extreme-long-distance shooting, but not really an issue at realistic engagement distances for small arms. E.g., if you were doing a King Of 2 Miles simulation, you’d want to account for it, or an artillery sim, but probably not for infantry engagements.

    donuts, do games w Day 198 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

    A trip down memory lane! Forklift battles are fun :D

    I was going to push for 120 but for some reason i guess my monitor can’t do that despite me being 100% sure it could. I even had it hooked up via DP.

    DP 1.2, perhaps? Either on your GPU or your monitor. 1.2 only goes up to 75hz at 4k, while 1.4 can do 120hz.

    MyNameIsAtticus,
    @MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m thinking it’s the monitor. I think i was just referring to the wrong manual for a newer version of mine when looking at it. I’m a bit disappointed, but I’ve lived this long without 120hz, i can live a while longer

    iltoroargento, do games w Day 198 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
    @iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    You’ve got to tick the other games you want in the dlc page after going to the game’s properties in steam.

    You can do that now to add the ones you want to play. For some reason if you just click download without selecting any other dlc, it just installs Reach.

    MyNameIsAtticus,
    @MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

    I was thinking it would carry my selections from Steam Deck over. I went ahead and started the downloads this morning and they’re all done now thankfully

    cholesterol, do gaming w Trajectory

    Except the bullets come out of the player’s eyes, not the gun.

    NoSpotOfGround,

    That’s what’s shown for Rainbow 6.

    Noobnarski,

    The bullets also come out of the players eyes in Counter Strike. I don’t know how it is in the other games.

    StinkyRedMan,

    As far as i know only tarkov works otherwise.

    zipzoopaboop,

    This is why I hated re4 remake

    rickyrigatoni, do gaming w His brain is out of space

    It’s called priorities, honey.

    Matriks404, do gaming w For unknown reasons, it won't load the game right sometimes.

    This shit didn’t go away. I let 2 people borrow my Oculus Quest and both of them deleted all my games and put their own accounts there with a PIN code to access the device without any permission to do that.

    Martineski,

    That’s wild! Were they kids?

    Matriks404,

    No, lol.

    chuckleslord, do gaming w My disappointment immeasurable...

    Bad design

    Walk_blesseD, do gaming w Trajectory

    I’m gonna take this opportunity to plug Phoenix Point, an XCOM clone by the original creators of XCOM. It’s definitely not as polished as XCOM EU and XCOM 2, but its targeting system feels a lot less bullshit: you get to manually aim with two concentric circular reticles. There’s a 100% chance that all projectiles fired will land within the outer reticle, and a 50% chance of any projectile fired to land within the inner one. Though this does mean that you’ll never miss a properly aimed point blank shot from one tile away.

    Besides that, there’s also a lot more to do in the geoscape section of the game than in XCOM 2.

    lime, do gaming w Trajectory
    @lime@feddit.nu avatar

    i’m missing ARMA here

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Take Battlefield’s, but add a few more arcs as the bullet bounces.

    chiliedogg,

    I need to try Arma again. I love the concept, but with all the complicated controls it felt like a marriage between Battlefield and QWOP.

    Delta_V, do gaming w Trajectory

    and then there’s Fallout 3 & NV, where low skill points in Small Guns makes bullets bend away from the crosshair

    Snowpix,
    @Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

    And your gun sways all over the place. Worse in 3, your character just moves their neck forward instead of using the sights when aiming. That just magically makes the bullets spread less despite not actually aiming… thank fuck for Tale of Two Wastelands.

    Mac, do gaming w Trajectory

    Needs one for Halo where the bullet does go to the target but it doesn’t originate from the weapon barrel. lol

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