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dankm, do gaming w What an incredible step in human explorati-

I’d hate to be the first human… in the original game there are dead people all over the place and the evil humans you do see are posessed.

morphballganon,

Also… and I never see anyone else mention this… DOOM does not take place on Mars.

DOOM episode 1: Knee-Deep in the Dead takes place on Phobos. Episode 2: The Shores of Hell takes place on Deimos. Episode 3: Inferno takes place in Hell.

Doom 2: Hell on Earth takes place, as you might think, on Earth.

The whole plot of the first game is that humans are experimenting with teleporters between Phobos and Deimos, when Deimos mysteriously vanishes. To investigate, the player character is sent to Phobos, with the mission to make it through the teleporter to Deimos to see where it is. But upon arriving on Phobos, something is horribly wrong…

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

The music can be heard all the way from Mars’ moons.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Mars adjacent.

dankm,

Right, forgot about the moons. I managed to confuse new and original doom in my mind. IIRC the humans didn’t even invent the teleporters. They were already there.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

Also… and I never see anyone else mention this… DOOM does not take place on Mars.

But Doom (2016) does.

I feel that many gamers nowadays mean the 2016 reboot, when they talk about Doom, and not the original from 1993. We’re getting old …

AngryCommieKender,

I don’t know if the '93 version of Doom will do it, but it probably will. I installed Dark Forces on a machine several years ago, and was happily playing for about 20-30 minutes when I suddenly got motion sickness. Those older games run at a lower fps, and apparently my eyes really don’t like that.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

The original DOS version of Doom runs at 35fps, exactly half of the 70Hz refresh rate of 320x200 VGA mode. I thought it felt really smooth back in the day, but it does feel weird and stuttery on modern systems when played through Dosbox. I get used to it after a bit, but still.

Fortunately as Doom is open source, there are many enhanced Doom ports that lift this 35fps limit and allow it to run on modern machines without emulation. I usually play in GZDoom which can run at the max refresh rate of my monitor (144Hz), so it feels silky smooth.

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Haven’t played Doom myself but I have a couple of questions. Did doom 1993 happen in 2016s universe and was doom guy canonically the first human on Mars is ether universe.

chiliedogg,

Definite “No” to the second. Doom (2016) definitely takes place in a universe where the Doom Marine has been around the block a few times, but I’m not sure how clear it is that they’re in the exact same universe.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

First of all, there really isn’t all that much story to the original Doom. There are a couple of paragraphs in a readme.txt file tucked away in the installation folder, and an ending screen after each episode… but that’s basically it.

As I understood it, Doom 2016 is a re-imagining of Doom, so the universes are not canonically linked. Kinda like how The Thing From Another World (1956), which takes place in Alaska, isn’t canonically linked with The Thing (1982) which takes place on Antarctica.

Uruanna,

2016 and Eternal are still in my backlog, but I remember discussions about Eternal showing the hallucination of a bunny, and it was a hint that it was in fact the same doomguy: OG ends with the reveal that doomguy’s pet bunny on Earth was murdered and beheaded during the invasion by the demons (that ending screen with a bunny’s head on a spike). It’s the whole reason doomguy is mad at the demons, and he’s still pissed in 2016 and Eternal.

It might be mostly player deduction and there’s no official lore about it, but the bunny is definitely a hint or at least an easter egg. The wiki says the pet bunny was called Daisy.

hemko,

Doom =/= Doom (2016) or Doom 4

If you’re talking about Doom, it’s the original Doom game (not to be confused with Ultimate Doom)

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

Doom (2016)

If you’re talking about Doom, it’s the original Doom game

Sorry but you’re not the arbiter of worldwide speech, so you don’t get to decide that. The name of the 2016 game is just Doom. If there’s a chance of confusion you can add (2016) for clarity, as I did, but it really has the same title as the original Doom game and there’s nothing wrong with just calling it Doom. Which it is.

See:

https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/9c2f4a86-cdf1-4b05-b213-356cca7feb9a.png

It’s like Scarface and Scarface, or Cape Fear and Cape Fear, or Dune and Dune, or … you get the point.

Nelots,

For the vast, vast majority of Doom (2016) players who have never played Doom (1993), they would probably completely disagree.

I think it makes more sense to refer to the more relevant, popular, and well-known game as Doom and just refer to the other as “the original Doom” or Doom (1993). Especially since that’s what the store page does, as the other person made clear on the 2016 end, and this store page should make clear on the 1993 end.

store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM_1993/

Honytawk, do gaming w Again.

Whooopsie

therealjcdenton, do gaming w Again.

Again?

Justas, do gaming w Again.
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

I like eugenics in my games. Just a little of them, as a treat.

DragonTypeWyvern,

hides his CK3 dynasty of genius albino giants

Haha, yes. Just as a treat!

tacosanonymous, do gaming w Again.
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

What do you mean, “turns into?” The entire point of breeding in that game is eugenics.

LordKitsuna,

Well, on the sfw ones anyway ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Kowowow, do gaming w Again.

I’m surprised this isn’t a bigger problem in the 40k fandom

kogasa,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

40k breeding forums are usually pretty chill

Xtallll,
@Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Except for the Krieg.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Fascism?

One of my conservations in a game store was with an Asian dude who was very insistent that the real life Crusades were defensive wars.

Why is that even your damage, dude, it wasn’t your ancestors that did it…

candyman337, do gaming w Again.

Eugenics in a game where it’s been decided in universe that the animals “just like fighting” and that “it’s fun for them!” Is not surprising lol.

canis_majoris, do gaming w Speak for yourself
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/6250fb94-0779-4cfe-b633-ac5176ed2248.png

I want to live the dream. I want it to be true.

Please let me be well rested.

Zahille7, do games w Something from the old days

AoE 2.

That’s it, that’s the post.

melroy, do gaming w GTA: Vice City Remastered
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

It looks very real. Is this with or without ray tracing?

AFC1886VCC, do gaming w GTA: Vice City Remastered

Eyyyyyyy Tommy!

iamjackflack, do gaming w Imagine, if you can.

This is where selective memory wiping would be awesome . Can you imagine how awesome this could be to replace games like this, smw, and botw again for the first time (as long as there are no negative side effects from the process). I would love to replay the greatest heavyweights of Nintendo again for the first time.

Atherel,

I’m sure Nintendo would find a way to monetize it or sue you

Wilzax,

You’re thinking small. Imagine being able to play outer wilds for the first time whenever you want. Or portal 2. Or inscryption

iamjackflack,

Meh, in my eyes the ones I listed are greater

Wilzax,

Inscryption and Outer Wilds have unforgettable twists that will never be the same on any future replays. Portal 2 has some of the funniest dialogue ever.

Mario 3, Mario World, and Breath of the Wild all were revolutionary games, but offer nothing that wouldn’t be just as cool on a second playthrough.

Further, the existence of Mario Maker and Tears of the Kingdom would make a blind playthrough of older games underwhelming, unless you were willing to erase your memory of all games since the release of the target game.

iamjackflack,

I meant what I said. I would take hl2 over portal as well. Should have listed that one too.

Wilzax,

Over portal? I agree. Over portal 2? Absolutely not

iamjackflack, do gaming w GTA: Vice City Remastered

I don’t remember that corvette being in vice city originally

E; nevermind… apparently it was. Maybe I just recall seeing from the front

ech, do gaming w GTA: Vice City Remastered

He even has the same amount of pixels.

can, (edited ) do gaming w GTA: Vice City Remastered

Already had the shotgun though

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Shotguns are excellent home defense weapons, and honestly are a bunch of fun to shoot. I have a clay pigeon thrower at my mom’s farm (where I keep my shotgun) and it’s a blast.

FireTower,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

The Spas 12 isn’t exactly a practical choice in 2024 compared to other shotguns on the market. Still definitely a cool one though for anyone who likes any of the number of games and movies that featured it heavily like Jurassic Park or Half Life.

FluorideMind,

It is a perfectly practical choice. Only thing more modern shotguns have are provisions for accessories.

Psaldorn,
@Psaldorn@lemmy.world avatar

They’re infamous for fragility, or so I hear. Something to do with the pump/semi toggle ability?

FireTower,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

The cost of a Spas 12 is astronomical compared to other new production tactical semi automatic shotguns. You can get a Mossberg 940 tac for around a grand. A Spas 12 will probably set you back more like four grand.

It’s definitely a cool gun, but not something I’d recommend someone go to for practical purposes. Others just do the same, or more, for less.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Given the rarity of SPAS-12s I’d say decent chances it’s an airsoft gun.

Anticorp,

The shotgun is the most versatile gun someone can buy. By changing the shells used in the gun, you can completely change its usage. You can even get interchangeable barrels for different uses, and most shotguns have interchangeable chokes to change the distance and pattern. Shotguns are awesome.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

The fun thing about home defense guns is that you’re more likely to shoot a family member by accident then a home invader on purpose.

SomeKindaName,

Win-win

marduk,

Skill issue

can,

Herd of boars?

Viking_Hippie,

No thanks, I already ate.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

You usually want high caliber rifles with boars, but I guess slugs would be effective.

lone_faerie,

And the military humvee?

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Those are also fun.

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