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apprehensively_human, do gaming w Assassin’s Creed Publisher Continues To Downsize, Lays Off More Staff

I think people know who Ubisoft is, Kotaku.

Norgur,

I think you can't take that for granted anymore.

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

Nah, people know individual dev studios, they just don’t know which major tech organization owns and publishes their titles these days.

Norgur,

I was more along the lines of "they messed up so many titles, nobody knows them anymore"

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

People still remember the old, good AC games. And FarCry, I guess.

muhyb,

For some weird reason, someone really loves to unlock areas by climbing to a tower.

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

I remember seeing it the first time as a kid on AC2 and I was like “wooooooaaaaah look at this kick ass view and sick spin around” and then I saw it for the next 10 games and I was less impressed.

Zahille7,

“Oh, this is pretty cool.”

Then it turns into: “can I skip this? Please?”

hogunner,

My guess is that the Venn diagram for the set of people who know Ubisoft is the publisher and the set of people who would read this article is pretty much a circle.

Metal_Zealot,
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

They made Crash Bandicoot, right?

MDKAOD, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

I just bought the only game I’ll likely ever buy on EGS. It was Alan Wake 2. Being published by Epic, it will unlikely ever be anywhere else until EGS shuts down.

My justifications are as follows: I love the developer and want to support them.

That’s it. The experience was… fine, but far from streamlined. The Epic achievement system is terrible. Imagine walking around in a horror game, immersed in the atmosphere, then a loud cheery mobile app chime blaps through your headphones and a giant banner splatters across the top of your screen announcing your achievement totally jarring you out of the atmosphere.

Then, imagine you find out you can turn on a ‘do not disturb’ mode by pressing shift+f3, then imagine you need to turn it on every time you launch the game. That’s the Epic Games Store experience in a nutshell.

PenguinTD,

Lol, this is something they could have done before the layoff.(no seriously, how hard it is to just disable any notification with a preference?)

Coreidan, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

Good reason to shut it down then. No one needs their crap anyway.

Omega_Haxors, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable
overzeetop, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable
@overzeetop@lemmy.world avatar

Wait…they sell games, too?

TomAwsm,

Is it “selling” if nobody’s buying?

patatahooligan, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable
@patatahooligan@lemmy.world avatar

This is very common among big tech companies and we should start treating it as what it is, a scam.

nova_ad_vitum,

A scam for whom? My epic library is full of games that they literally gave away for free. I didn’t pay for any of them. Hard to see how I’m being scammed. I’m not surprised that it’s a shitty business model though, and I suppose their investors could argue they’re being scammed.

jackalope,

They subsidizing in hopes they can gain monopolistic marketshare.

laconicsoftware,

How does them giving free games have anything to do with their desire for a “monopolistic” market share? Couldn’t they just do the same if they wanted any market share?

jackalope,

Because if you have to subdize to get marketshare then how are you going to maintain that marketshare once you stop subsidizing?

This has been the play for the last decade of cheap VC debt in tech. Wework, Uber, etc all these businesses operate at a loss in the hopes they can someday get a monopoly. That’s the explicitly stated business goal or Uber!

It’s not sustainable. It’s stupid and the bill will come due eventually.

Games as an industry is impossible to make money in unless you’re a platform owner. That’s just how it is. The 1983 game industry crash and Nintendo resurrection showed that. It’s just repeating the cycle.

JustEnoughDucks,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

This is literally how amazon works.

They operated at a big loss until people were only using their platform and then hiked prices.

They literally price undercut up and coming websites by a ridiculous margin (20-30% sometimes) subsidized by their rich benefactor loans until they were driven out of business and then jacked up their prices to make profit.

The whole game is getting people using your platform as exclusively as possible and then return to normal prices once you gave enough market share.

patatahooligan,
@patatahooligan@lemmy.world avatar

The scam is that they undermine the actually viable platforms by offering something that is literally too good to be true. Then when all their competitors are dead their store will go to shit and you won’t have an alternative. When the time comes, you will wish you’d spent some money on a real store rather than play for free on theirs. See enshittification.

mrfriki, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

I don’t know why. I own about 80 games from Epic. I didn’t pay a dime tough.

burliman,

Oh wow I thought I was the only one.

Evilphd666, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable
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FuckyWucky, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

L tbh. They don’t even have good regional pricing unlike Steam.

joelfromaus, do games w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

Maybe less investment in trying to monopolise the market and more investment in developing their shopping platform so it’s not a smouldering turd.

BakedGoods, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

Thanks for the reminder to claim my free game. Never going to buy shit from the Epic store as long as they pay developers for “exclusives”.

jaden, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

This is good, 30% cut is only possible because of monopolistic behavior.

ripcord,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

Why would this be good, for that reason...?

WHYAREWEALLCAPS,

I could be wrong, but I believe Epic or Sweeney threw something like that around about Steam's pricing model. Or maybe it was just an Internet thing. Regardless, the idea floated was that the only reason Steam took such a cut was it's monopolistic powers. What I believe jaden is trying to say is that that line of reasoning is being shown to be bullshit and that Steam takes that much so it can be profitable.

Zima, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

Hopefully this becomes a case study of how not to antagonize your customers when launching a product.

NightOwl, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

They started out pissing off Steam users with Metro Exodus going exclusives and pulling it from Steam. Not a great first impression and a lasting one at that. Not everyone will care and will buy from epic, but alienating a whole bunch of Steam’s core users off the bat is probably going to ensure they’ll never win them over.

I claim games from epic and have bought from even origin and uplay, but I’ll probably never spend any money at epic.

thingsiplay, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

I'm not surprised.

NightOwl,

I’m surprised since I’d assume most people don’t care where games are from and just buy it from whatever launcher. At least that’s what people claimed throughout the years.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@kbin.social avatar

I don't think anyone has claimed that ever. Having all my games spread across 8 different libraries is a pain in the ass. Having Steam plus Blizzard's Battlenet launcher was already pushing it in my opinion and I dropped them too after Overwatch 2. (Which, hilariously, is also now available on steam anyway).

espiritu_p,

to disagree slightly: there were many different stores and lunchers before Epic even existed. Apart from Steam I have bought games and other digital goods on Gog, Humble and the now- extinct Desura. While totally avoiding the stores from companies as Ubi or Ea because they just suck.
Having an addititional account wasn't the big issue. There were already attemts to integrade several libs into one launcher, and if not you can at least run the start commands for that games out of steam.
What was sucking from the beginning was that arrogance of this sweeny guy, his promises of hot air, and his telling us of being the great saviour for all developers - while we as paying custemers were fed up with this bad launcher that is still missing every user interaction.
In the end not even the developers have profited from the store. Sales are not as promised, and in order to release a game on this platform sweeny blackmails you to give away older titles for free.

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