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ThatOneKirbyMain2568, do kbinMeta w Blocking and Downvote Stalking
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Bad idea imo.

Blocking someone means, "I want nothing to do with this person," so it makes sense that you'll be unable to see what they do. This should include direct messages, threads, comments, etc. @PugJesus's idea of a setting to hide votes from blocked users is a great idea, as you should be able to fully ignore someone you've blocked.

It also makes sense that someone you've blocked wouldn't be able to do any 1-on-1 interaction with you. If you've blocked somebody because they're spamming or harassing you, it wouldn't be great for them to be able to DM you.

However, preventing them from voting on your posts is something different entirely, as votes don't just concern the creator of the post and the person doing the voting; they also concern everyone who sees the post. Upvoting a comment is a message not just to the creator but also to everyone else that you like that comment, and the same goes for downvoting. Blocking voting is much more farther reaching than blocking DMs, and with votes being visible on the fediverse, it's a great way for trolls to hide people's views on their posts.


EDIT: Typo

wagesj45,
@wagesj45@kbin.social avatar

But if a troll blocks everyone that down votes them, eventually no one will be left to see their stuff. It is a self solving problem. On the other hand, a troll that you block can interfere with your stuff being shown to others depending on the sorting algorithm.

NumbersCanBeFun, do kbinDevlog w RTR#39 Further development of the ActivityPub module
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  • ernest,
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    Sure thing, I've noted that some accounts are stuck in the queue for deletion. This typically applies to older accounts. I'm currently working on it, and everything should be functioning properly soon. Your request is in the queue. Sorry for that.

    ThatOneKirbyMain2568, do kbinMeta w I'm starting to see some serious downsides to being able to see who downvotes you.
    @ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social avatar

    While that's definitely a notable downside, I think the upsides outweigh it.

    For one, being able to see upvotes & downvotes seems to have made a lot of people a bit more thoughtful with handing them out. This obviously isn't the case for everyone — there's still a good bit of downvoting people for disagreeing with the hivemind — but I and others have observed that downvote quality is a lot better here on kbin.social, and I think that vote visibility is a big part of that.

    It's also just transparency on kbin.social's part. If votes federate, anyone can set up an instance to view your votes or just go to one that shows them. Someone could literally make a website listing downvotes throughout the fediverse, and there's nothing stopping them. Kbin.social is being transparent about the fact that votes on the fediverse can be accessed by the public, and I have no issue with that.

    EDITː Removed a stray asterisk

    livus,
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    @ThatOneKirbyMain2568

    Kbin.social is being transparent about the fact that votes* on the fediverse can be accessed by the public

    This is important. The kind of petty, persevering trolls that @billothekid2 is worried about are exactly the kind of people who'd be likely to look up who downvoted them.

    Kbin just makes it clear to us that this info is out there. Anonymous voting isn't possible in federated social media.

    Jonny, do kbinDevlog w /kbin RTR#5 Transfer request for ownership of abandoned magazines
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    Just wondering, does anyone know how long it usually is for ownership change to be approved? I applied for one a few days ago, and just wondered how long it might take. Thanks in advance!

    ernest,
    @ernest@kbin.social avatar

    Done!

    Jonny,
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    oh thank you! I hadn't meant to badger you, but thank you again!

    testing, do kbinDevlog w RTR#32 Further refactoring, debugging voting errors
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    @ernest
    RTR#32 Voting Bug Report:

    • upvoting any post in the microblogging section of the random magazine does not work
    Kierunkowy74, do kbinDevlog w RTR#32 Further refactoring, debugging voting errors
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    ghostatnoon, do kbinDevlog w RTR#32 Further refactoring, debugging voting errors
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    Currently getting an error trying to block @news_us_politics via the magazines page.

    ghostatnoon,
    @ghostatnoon@kbin.social avatar

    Now @politics.

    ghostatnoon,
    @ghostatnoon@kbin.social avatar

    @uspolitics. I'm half suspecting the error might be related to how many requests I've already made to block things recently, since I was having no issues going through the first couple of pages and blocking about half the magazines on them and now suddenly am encountering a bunch of errors? But I have no actual evidence for that.

    ghostatnoon,
    @ghostatnoon@kbin.social avatar

    Successfully blocked the second two magazines about two minutes after this post but @news_us_politics is still giving me errors. It doesn't seem to be particularly consistent.

    Kierunkowy74, do kbinDevlog w RTR#32 Further refactoring, debugging voting errors
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    https://kbin.social/m/asklemmy@lemmy.world/t/677318/What-is-your-favorite-lemmy-post-so-far
    Upvoting a "recursion" post briefly caused 500 for me just now. Later it worked, though.

    ContentConsumer9999, do kbinDevlog w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes

    Will collections get a way to tag them like magazines?

    ernest,
    @ernest@kbin.social avatar

    Additional options will probably be introduced in the near future, but for now, I need to attend to other matters ;)

    ernest, do kbinMeta w Where can I find documentation on how federation works?
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    0xtero, do kbinMeta w Where can I find documentation on how federation works?
    ernest, do kbinMeta w Feature comparison - kbin vs Lemmy
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    These points are not a priority, but relatively easy to achieve. They will gradually appear on the instance in between working on significant things. It's worth following https://kbin.social/m/kbinDevlog

    ernest,
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    I'm just wondering about 'spoiler alert' - what is it exactly? I haven't delved into Lemmy's code for a long time.

    massive_bereavement,
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    I would guess it's the capacity of masking text through markdown for spoiler purposes:
    https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/104

    Teppic,
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    ::: spoiler masking text
    Like this?
    :::
    kbin does that just fine.

    Damaskox,
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    Oh my Deity how did you do that?!

    I've been cursing enviously for days when I see a spoiler (system) I couldn't use myself!
    I didn't get Lemmy's style to work.

    ernest,
    @ernest@kbin.social avatar

    ::: spoiler hidden text title
    hidden text
    :::

    ::: spoiler hidden text title 
    hidden text
    :::
    
    
    Damaskox,
    @Damaskox@kbin.social avatar

    ::: spoiler test
    Does this thing work?
    :::

    sigh Finally.
    Now I just need to find a convenient way to save this piece of code and copy-paste it whenever I need it 🤔

    .


    ...except that when I wrote more text into this comment, the code broke 🤔

    Upon further testing - if I edit a text, the spoiler stops working. When I update the page, the spoiler works again.

    ernest,
    @ernest@kbin.social avatar

    Indeed, I missed that case, thanks.

    DarkThoughts,

    Now I just need to find a convenient way to save this piece of code and copy-paste it whenever I need it 🤔

    Honestly, I'd just suggest to add a button for it in the editor after the code one? I think it's a common enough thing to use to warrant it. For every other formatting maybe a little link for a pop up or expandable that shows the remaining formatting rules, similar to how it was on old.reddit.

    Somewhereunknown7351, do kbinDevlog w RTR#22 Further improvements interspersed with code refactoring
    @Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social avatar

    ::: does this work
    Nope
    :::

    mizzyc,
    @mizzyc@kbin.social avatar

    ::: spoiler you forgot to type
    spoiler at the beginning
    :::

    Somewhereunknown7351,
    @Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social avatar

    ::: spoiler test
    Thanks
    :::

    Edit: still not working

    mizzyc,
    @mizzyc@kbin.social avatar

    Here it looks fine!

    Somewhereunknown7351,
    @Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social avatar

    It’s working on my end now

    ThatOneKirbyMain2568, do kbinDevlog w RTR#22 Further improvements interspersed with code refactoring
    @ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social avatar

    huh,
    that's pretty neat

    ContentConsumer9999, do kbinDevlog w RTR#22 Further improvements interspersed with code refactoring

    What is "Mercure" and "dynamic feed"?

    Kierunkowy74, (edited )
    @Kierunkowy74@kbin.social avatar

    well,
    with the dynamic feed you can receive the updates live - as they are published (without refreshing the page)

    ernest,
    @ernest@kbin.social avatar

    Exactly so, additionally counting votes and comments without refreshing.

    ContentConsumer9999,

    Would that also help with boosts leading to 404 pages?

    mizzyc,
    @mizzyc@kbin.social avatar

    Are there any plans for the feed to always show new posts that you haven't seen yet, just like the reddit feed?

    I mean, every time I open the "hot" section, for example, I see the same posts that are trending, even when I've already seen them before. It'd be nice to be able to see only content I didn't saw yet, so people will be always receiving new content and raising their interest and engagement :)

    EDIT: I'm not complaining about the experience, just making a suggestion and I wanna thank you (as always) for your awesome work with /kbin! It's for sure my favorite social network!

    ernest,
    @ernest@kbin.social avatar

    I will be working on and prototyping something in the coming months. The first step in the near future will be marking unread comments in some way.

    It's for sure my favorite social network!

    Great to hear ;-)

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