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olicvb, (edited ) do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles
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Always suprised when I remember that WatchDogs 2 is from Ubisoft. Such a well made game, i played the crap out of it twice

Edit: awe man Steep was super fun too

M0oP0o,
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Did we play the same game?

olicvb,
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Maybe they fixed it? I didn’t play day 1 so I’m not sure how it was then (played maybe 2-3 years after it’s release)

M0oP0o,
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I just found it soul less and unbalanced. But then again I was going into it early when they where still calling it the “GTA killer”.

Zahille7,

That was my experience. Got it at GameStop in sale after it had released, played through the whole thing, then I went and played the first one.

I think I like the second better, but the first one is good for what it is.

I never played Legion.

lud,

I played it a few months after launch due to the gaming being included with my GPU and I really enjoyed it.

bitwolf,

I wanted to like Steep but the Controller experience, even on the Steam deck is so horrible I didn’t last a full hour

olicvb,
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I know there are some changes you can do in settings. I mostly did snowboarding and since I snowboard irl I found the controls were close to how you’d control your feet on an actual board. So that probably helped ^^

But rider’s republic mixed it all up so I get what you mean

JusticeForPorygon, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles
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“The Board has investigated itself and found no evidence of incompetence.”

scrubbles,
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Nah in this case this is real. The board is investigating the executive leadership, two separate entities. It’s like corporate investigating stores management, in a way. This could mean executives getting fired

JusticeForPorygon,
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Good fuck em

P1nkman,

They’ll get payouts which is more money than you and I will ever make combined. I’m hungry. When do we eat?

FISHNETS, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles

Finally, let me address some of the polarized comments around Ubisoft lately. I want to reaffirm that we are an entertainment-first company, creating games for the broadest possible audience, and our goal is not to push any specific agenda. We remain committed to creating games for fans and players that everyone can enjoy.”

Creating games for the broadest possible audience is what has made Ubisoft games so lackluster in recent years, and I think players are tired of games not targeting a specific niche. It feels these games are full time jobs in themselves with how much needs to be done to complete/100% it, and I think that formula is now stale.

I’ll be interested to see what results of this investigation. Hopefully better art, but I am cynical

Katana314,

100% is itself a bit of a misleading target.

I think I remember Just Cause 2 had it so the top achievement in the game was only for 70% completion because they knew they had such a ridiculously huge map.

Breath of the Wild aims the same way - they like having you come across a bunch of Korok seeds while traveling, but not scouring the land with a magnifying glass looking for them.

Zahille7,

Just Cause 2 was insanely huge.

frezik,

. . . our goal is not to push any specific agenda

This is the part they’re actually getting at. Not that the fundamental game design is for everyone (which, yes, is what they try and fail at), but rather they’re responding to people who think they’re failing because they put a woman as the protagonist in some game or another.

Hugin, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles

Ubisoft isn’t making money. That’s something wrong as far as the board is concerned.

Nuke_the_whales, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles

Here’s one. Your main series assassin’s Creed still has the same glitches and bugs it did 15 years ago. The last one was so much more of the same that it’s the first Ac game I put down and gave up on after an hour cause it felt like I had played it already. How bout building a new game from scratch instead of repeatedly dipping into the same garbage pile and charging premium for it, while your other titles are overflowing with micro transactions and bullshit

Eyck_of_denesle,

Prince of Persia 😴

ampersandrew,
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That new one is a solid metroidvania. It would have been better if they shrunk the map a bit or introduced meaningful upgrades more frequently, but it was still very good.

Bakkoda, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles

Management has decided that the real issue is the lack of employee involvement. Mandatory beatings will commence.

Jake_Farm, do games w Ubisoft's Board is Launching an Investigation Into The Company Struggles
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I bet they will find embezzlement, possibly funnelled through consultancies.

ms_lane,

“Ubisoft investigates Ubisoft and found that Ubisoft did nothing wrong at Ubisoft”-situations, isn’t it?

“The consumers are wrong, it’s those damn Millenials again”

Followed by continuing to change nothing and fading into obscurity like Atari or Commodore. (hopefully)

Jake_Farm,
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It needs to happen to all the big developers.

BreadstickNinja,

I bet at first it seems like multiple consultancies, but the more they investigate, the more they realize it’s just minor variations on one consultancy copy-pasted around the map, and at a certain point, investigating each one just feels same-y and boring.

helenslunch, do games w Ubisoft Cancels Press Previews of Assassin's Creed Shadows
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Something must be going on at Ubisoft.

Yeah, they’re fucking dying.

rimjob_rainer,

Good

helenslunch,
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They did it to themselves!

mechoman444, do games w Ubisoft Cancels Press Previews of Assassin's Creed Shadows

Sweet Baby leaves its taint over a long lasting beloved franchise yet again!

Thank God for Space Marine 2!

systemglitch, do games w Ubisoft Cancels Press Previews of Assassin's Creed Shadows

I want Ubisoft to crumble.

carlnachos,
etchinghillside,

Can I have a solid Black Flag remaster first?

Ledivin,

No, just play Black Flag.

Noodle07,

They’re working on it

systemglitch,

Feels like they are buying their own booster packs to speed things up.

kat_angstrom, do games w Ubisoft Cancels Press Previews of Assassin's Creed Shadows

Don’t worry, this one’s definitely gonna be AAAAAAAA

hesusingthespiritbomb, do games w Ubisoft Cancels Press Previews of Assassin's Creed Shadows

I feel like a lot of companies that put the most emphasis on making diverse IP make the worst products. I don’t think that the lack of quality is due to diversity. Rather, I think that companies with soulless corporate leadership have a habit of producing mediocre content and attempting to obfuscate said mediocrity by making an otherwise uninspiring game a referendum on the culture war.

I’m willing to bet that there are developers who can make a game that is more organically diverse and genuinely fun, but that they don’t get an honest shot due to the state of modern gaming.

Anyway this game is gonna be crap, IGN is gonna give it a 10/10, and Polygon is gonna go on a tirade when it underperforms in the same way every AC game since black flag has underperformed.

slaacaa, (edited )

I mean it is a diverse portfolio, but only on the very shallow surface level. Like COD or FIFA, AC games are the same every year / 2 years with a different skin.

I remember when it was actually different 10+ years ago, like when we got AC Unity, Black Flag close by, with some Far Cry 3 on the side. Their open worlds had similar elements, but it was still very different at the core.

Now it’s just repetitive and boring.

whereBeWaldo,

By diverse I believe he meant the DEI stuff.

pyre,

what do you mean by diverse IP? Ubisoft has notoriously done the exact opposite by eliminating every distinguishing characteristic of their games and converging all of their designs into assassin’s creed with another name. Ubisoft has one of the least diverse portfolio of any AAA company, and that’s saying something.

the only good (and diverse) things that come out of Ubisoft have been from a small team inside that somehow missed all the rituals to sell their souls to Asmodeus so they keep making bangers like Rayman and the recent Prince metroidvania.

jeeva,

Sadly, I think this person is railing against “having more than just white guys featured” (as if that’s forced, when you start making games in new locations around the world) rather than the bland Ubi-style open-world map checklist that you might expect to be the sane complaint.

pyre,

oh. going through their profile certainly suggests that way. it’s weird to call that “diverse IP”… but weird is pretty on brand for that crowd i guess.

hesusingthespiritbomb,

I’m railing about corporate making a mediocre game and then jamming some culture war shit into it in a blantant attempt to distract from the fact that the game is mediocre.

Also AC has had “more than just white guys” featured since the first game.

ampersandrew,
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No one jams culture war shit into things like people complaining about culture war shit.

KingThrillgore,
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The first few games were actually good, though. AC2 is one of my favorites.

hesusingthespiritbomb,

Exactly. The problem isn’t diversity. The problem is soulless corporations who put out mediocre games, and then try to shoehorn diversity in a fairly surface level and lazy fashion as a distraction.

It would have been weird if AC1 didn’t star an individual of MENA descent, because the game was set in the middle east. Origins had minority protagonists for similar reasons Connor being Native American in AC3 added a lot of depth when it came to the concept of freedom and how it relates to the American revolution.

I feel like I’ve seen the same story a million times. Mediocre IP, lazy forced diversity, culture war commentary, undeserved stellar reviews, underperformance with audiences due to fundamental issues.

KingThrillgore, do games w Ubisoft Cancels Press Previews of Assassin's Creed Shadows
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They’re wasting such a badass historical figure in Yasuke on such a color by numbers game.

PunchingWood, do games w Ubisoft Cancels Press Previews of Assassin's Creed Shadows

Gonna wait and see what their statement is.

If it’s that they’re gonna change something in the game, I doubt it’s gonna be related to the (black) main character. I can’t imagine it would be an easy fix to fully replace him with a different character at this point.

If people really find it such a big deal I think best they could do is to let people choose their own main male character, like Odyssey and Valhalla.

lowleveldata,

I feel like the discussion is way past “the main character is black” at this point

PunchingWood,

Pretty sure it’s not. Have you seen the average discussions about the game?

lowleveldata,

Ya. What I have seen is mainly related to Ubisoft saying the game is history accurate but it is not at all that. Also they used some stolen / AI generated assets when promoting the game. Also it is disrespectful to have a foreigner going around killing Japanese.

Ledivin,

:Also it is disrespectful to have a foreigner going around killing Japanese.

This part is fucking stupid but the rest makes sense.

lowleveldata,

It’s one of those things that you won’t care generally but stands out when other things make you think they might be not respectful

bread,
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Inaccuracies, both historical and caused by a general lack of research. Stolen assets that they have no right to use, some of which could be considered culturally insensitive. Differences in the English and Japanese “apology” letter which make it seem like they’re disregarding the Japanese, or attempting to turn the rest of the world against them. General lack of polish.

VelvetStorm,

From what I understand he is not THE main character he is one of the two main characters.

It would be impossible to replace him at this point in the development and other than the super hard-core racists I don’t think anyone wants that at all.

slaacaa, do games w Ubisoft Cancels Press Previews of Assassin's Creed Shadows

Just when the sequel to Ghost of Tsushima was announced - I don’t think it’s a coincidence: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z7kqwuf0a8

simple,

I don’t think they’re related but it is a hilarious turn of events for ubisoft

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