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onlooker, do gaming w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
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“We want more money.” There, that’s the article.

Flemmy, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

I’d rather pay for a large pizza tutorial. And eat it.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

“This is the stuffed crust… filled with cheese and pepperoni. It’s like calzone in a bread stick form factor!”

toxla, do gaming w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

Ugh I have thought about getting a Switch for approx 6 months but decided to wait for Switch 2. I feel it is worth l as I don’t own the previous version, still all the complaints make me want to wait as well as I get that Nintendo strategy is not correct.

jordanlund,
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Good news! Used Switch 1 prices are about to crater…

Thesilverpig, (edited ) do gaming w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

I got a feeling in my gut that the switch 2 is going to do pretty well and I kind of hate that. Or if it does fail to meet expectations it’ll likely be cause the tariffs and not because Nintendo’s greed.

ByteJunk,
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Oh look. Another Nintendo console that I’m NOT going to buy.

My last one was a used Wii that came hacked and I could load anything into it, and I’m perfectly happy if that’s the last Nintendo console I’ll ever buy.

samus12345,

Hard to say, with the world economy being so volatile right now. I can say that as someone who has owned every one of Nintendo’s consoles and handhelds (even the Virtual Boy!), I have no intention of buying a Switch 2. Nintendo’s done plenty of shady stuff in the past, but everything about the Switch 2 smacks of arrogance and greed on a level beyond what they’ve done before.

KeenFlame, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

I feel stupid but I have only ever bought devices that are open or able to be jailbroken. I don’t get how sometimes when the jail walled garden bdsm relationship punishes it’s people, they react with a gasp, as if they thought their locked hardware that isn’t open to their owner that they “have” isn’t made for exactly that purpose?

It’s like yeah Janet. It’s why you brought it. So you can play only their games and watch their movies and enjoy things that they decide the price and allowance of. You selected that? You chose to hire this device? Well I split mine open to use it for what it can do. No drm has ever succeeded. It’s a grift protected by laziness and - as always, lawyers and lobbyists who have yet to grow up

mlg, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
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I like how there’s so many fees on this console that we haven’t even gotten to the $50 skype webcam accessory which they spent a solid third of their direct showing off.

I miss the DS era :/

EDIT:

I also want to point out this: nintendolife.com/…/reggie-had-to-fight-for-wii-sp…

Fils-Aimé pushed for the bundle, and initially company President Satoru Iwata turned the proposal down: “Nintendo does not give away precious content for free.”

“Neither of you understands the challenges of creating software that people love to play. This is something we constantly push ourselves to do. We do not give away our software,” Mr. Miyamoto stated.

It’s ironic that with the success of Wii sports, Nintendo completely ignored the lesson.

A_Random_Idiot,

All the important people at nintendo have been separated from reality by their own fame and success for so long that they’ve lost their common sense and rationality.

But despite it all, their absolute contempt for their costumers and supporters continues to get rewarded by masses of fanboys/fangirls who keep unloading dumptrucks of money on Nintendos doorstop out of some obsessive nostalgia, and thus keeps nintendo from ever actually learning an actual fucking lesson.

jordanlund,
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Or how the “Chat Button” is pay gated after the first year…

polygon.com/…/switch-2-nintendo-confirms-c-button…

echodot,

Who’s going to buy that camera though? It’s only so you can talk to 3 other people, and none of the games that make use of it look any good.

hal_5700X, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

The more Nintendo talks, the worst it gets.

TwinTitans, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
@TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

There isn’t one reason they could give that would ever justify this for the consumer. Absolutely unacceptable and anti consumer.

ekZepp, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
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Nintendo explain: " It’s not free… we want your money… all of it"

Quill7513, do games w Path of Exile 2 Dev Announces More Emergency Changes as Recent Steam User Reviews Hit 'Mostly Negative'

ban elon’s characters for a guaranteed boost in ratings

Halosheep, do games w Path of Exile 2 Dev Announces More Emergency Changes as Recent Steam User Reviews Hit 'Mostly Negative'

Man, reading the complaints people have really shows how bad the average poe player is. I blasted the whole campaign with 2 skills and did so much quicker than the release season.

The QOL changes they made are nice though, much appreciated.

ShadowRam,

I blasted the whole campaign with 2 skills

Which skills? because yeah, there's like 4 that does that, and that's what people are complaining about. It's only 4

Halosheep,

I started with rake and blood herald then swapped to lightning spear and explosive spear somewhere around act 3.

Maybe I just picked the good stuff by luck?

ShadowRam,

yes.. Lightning and Explosive Spear is on the nerf radar as being insanely OP compared to everything else

ryven, do games w Path of Exile 2 Dev Announces More Emergency Changes as Recent Steam User Reviews Hit 'Mostly Negative'
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“If you’re a masochist who enjoys being punished for little to no reward, this game is for you,” reads another negative review.

Hot damn, they made this update just for me? I was holding off checking out POE2 but I guess I should.

CoffeeBreakfast, do games w Path of Exile 2 Dev Announces More Emergency Changes as Recent Steam User Reviews Hit 'Mostly Negative'

It’s sad to see so much hate. I wasn’t reading anything about the patch when it came out and I was digging it, then I checked out reddit and it was all negative. I think at least some of it is just from the nerf patch numbers and not how it actually plays. GGG has a lot of credit with me based on how they’ve run poe1 so that might just be my own bias. They’ll turn it around though, and I’m happy to play through the early access ups and downs.

nfreak, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC
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Nintendo’s really making it easier and easier to not buy the $500 Metroid Prime mouse control box.

SolidShake, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

Don’t worry. Super fans will still defend it. They’ve been using the “but but but but” strategy lately

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  • victorz,

    I’m a big fan but I’m not stupid. This is some horseshit.

    I have both DLCs and I didn’t expect this garbage. Really bad stuff.

    MelodiousFunk,

    I have both DLCs

    So then you still get to play them. The only people this affects are new buyers, which… scans internet will be approximately nobody, given the raging hate-boners on display. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    victorz,

    But if I buy the upgrade pack, what will happen to the DLCs when I play on the Switch 2?

    MelodiousFunk,

    Then you’ll play the DLC with the updated graphics etc. There’s nothing mystical about the upgrade pack - it’s just engine optimizations to let the game run natively on new hardware, probably some revamped textures, etc. The base game has been DLC-aware since the DLC was released. Having the DLC doesn’t change the game code, it just makes the extra content accessible.

    victorz,

    Okay, so then it’s just like normal? This is no news at all? It’s the same as buying the game on the original Switch? Because the DLCs weren’t included with that version either. 🤷‍♂️ How uninteresting of a post.

    HawlSera,

    I will get it and play MKW but…

    Yeah no I can’t justify getting too many games for it. Will probably just have World and MAYBE DK Bananza

    SolidShake,

    You’re going to buy an entire console for just one game?

    MelodiousFunk,

    When I hit 360 hours in BotW, I asked myself, was this worth a dollar an hour? Yes, yes it was. That was almost 8 years ago, and doesn’t take into account time spent playing other games, or the 7+ years of playtime since.

    SolidShake,

    Yeah… But that’s Zelda and not Mario kart.

    MelodiousFunk,

    Different strokes for different folks. I’ve been playing MK8 for 9ish years on two systems. I don’t expect World to be a step backwards, but it could happen.

    I may have bought a Switch at launch solely for BotW (even though I had a Wii U), but that’s not the only game I played, even if was the only game I owned for a bit. More games came later. Anyone saying “I’m only going to buy one game” is basing that off of what’s available at launch. More games will come later, at which point people will make their value decisions.

    People are losing their shit about Nintendo bumping prices for the first time in several gaming generations. Broad declarations of “never, not me, I won’t!” There seems to be a large overlap between the most vocal and the following two groups:

    • Happy with your Steam Deck? Great! I’m glad another actual gaming company (Valve) has entered the hardware space. (For MS and Sony, gaming is just one part of their enormous portfolios.) Nintendo doesn’t interest Deck folks. That’s fine. I can’t play first person or close third person games, and never liked RTS-style click as fast as you can games, so PC gaming has never been my thing. The impressive Steam library doesn’t do much for me. That’s fine. We all have options. Great!
    • People that just pirate their shit? Great! Piracy always has and always will exist. Companies have always fought back against it, and always will. Getting around those barriers is part of the scene. Remember when Sony lost in court against Connectix, then bought VGS just to kill it? I do. I was an adult at the time, and played a lot of THPS using a shitty USB gamepad on my computer. The world kept turning. Games are still free for those that want them enough.

    The thing those groups have in common? Neither of them were all that likely to buy anything Nintendo. But any unfavorable news makes them come out of the woodwork to declare that they’re not going to buy any of it even harder. Great! Just totally irrelevant. It’s the latest chapter in the long running saga of the console wars. It’s never been a good story, but does it ever have staying power. Yay tribalism.

    Cethin,

    $/h is a shitty metric. Some hours are more enjoyable than others, and also time is a resource we spend, just like money, not something we’re gaining, so it taking time is a negative. Enjoyment/$ is the metric to use, or maybe (enjoyment/h)/$.

    $/h is a marketing term. It isn’t a term consumers should bother with. It’s what has lead to boring over-inflated games that waste your time doing things that don’t matter and aren’t fun.

    MelodiousFunk,

    Enjoyment/$ is the metric to use, or maybe (enjoyment/h)/$.

    Or, as I stated, “worth the money.” I’m not interested in turning it into a hard formula, universally transferable. As you noted, there’s too many variables. I was stating that the money was well spent. That’s it.

    Cethin,

    OK, but you didn’t say that. You said worth the $/h, which is a common metric people use but is less than worthless.

    $/h is useful because it isa universally transferable measure. Enjoyment is not, but is actually what we care about.

    I’m just trying to work to remove $/h as something people discuss, because it’s ruined so many games.

    MelodiousFunk,

    Fair enough.

    HawlSera,

    Yesn’t. Gift from the family since it comes out on my day. Just not looking the horse in the mouth

    Cethin,

    Why not ask them for something else, unless they really want you to have that device in particular for some reason.

    HawlSera,

    My brother wants to play it too and he lives next door

    Hyphlosion,

    I’m not at all defending the price, but am secretly hoping this outcry will make it easier for me to be an early adopter. I still don’t have a PS5 due to how burned I got trying to preorder one.

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