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RebekahWSD, do games w Baldur's Gate 3's Huge Patch 8 and Its 12 New Subclasses Are Coming April 15
@RebekahWSD@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think I’m getting to room 46 in Blue Prince before then…oh no

simple,

Probably not hah, I’ve been playing Blue prince as well and it goes way deeper than it looks.

RebekahWSD,
@RebekahWSD@lemmy.world avatar

I shockingly got there yesterday by whoopsing into it! On day like 86!

hal_5700X, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

The more Nintendo talks, the worst it gets.

cyberpunk007, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

Ya not sure if I’ll ever get a switch 2. I played the living shit out of my switch 1. Easily was my favourite console… Until I got a steam deck. Instantly I have over 1,000 games purchased already and a hefty percentage of them playable.

…not to mention the switch games that are still sitting on my shelf that I just play on here instead.

callouscomic, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

Morons will still throw cash at them.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

lol the Nintendo hate is so odd, 99% of games do. It come with the dlc. Unless you buy a season pass additionally. Why only call out Zelda for something that is normal and has been for a long time?

This sub has Nintendo derangement syndrome

WarlordSdocy,

I mean generally if a company releases their game on a new console years after the original game came out it does include the DLC and is like a definitive edition. At least that’s how I remember it used to be when I actually bought console games.

melfie, (edited ) do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

I’ve been a huge Zelda fan since I was a kid, but I played BotW in 2016 and found it playable, but way overrated. Not a 10/10 masterpiece, more like 8/10. I have yet to even bother with TotK. I am also a huge Metroid fan, but Prime 4 seems like just more of the same.

After playing both KCD and KCD2, for example, Zelda games just seem lacking in depth in comparison. I don’t know, maybe Nintendo is past their prime—either that, or I’ve just played too many of their games and am bored of them now.

The fact that they seem to be screwing the pooch with their latest console maybe means they’ll stop being arrogant and lower their prices, but I’ll be emulating their games only from now on anyway.

spicystraw, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

I got a hunch that the team behind prepping the game for new hardware just didn’t have enough time to polish the port for DLC as well.

The outrageous prices are provably set by sales and/ or upper management anyway.

I kind of don’t get the urge for buying BotW on switch 2 if you alredy have it on original. Why not save your money on new games to play that are coming for thw system?

Hyphlosion, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

We’re only paying a measly $70 for the Switch 2 version. Just get a third job and be grateful for the opportunity to purchase the DLC at $20. Then you can use the last of your hundred dollar bill for that one tech demo game!

ShinkanTrain, do gaming w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
TachyonTele, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]

No worries, Fishburne. I doubt anyone in the general public will return for a Matrix 5 either.

DaMonsterKnees,
@DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world avatar

You’re done today soldier, go home. Spot on!

TachyonTele,

o7

atro_city,

They really are trying to milk everything out of that franchise and doing a terrible job at doing so.

protist,

Franchise?

atro_city,

Correct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix_(franchise)

A media franchise, also known as a multimedia franchise, is a collection of related media in which several derivative works have been produced from an original creative work of fiction, such as a film, a work of literature, a television program, or a video game. Bob Iger, chief executive of the Walt Disney Company, defined the word franchise as "something that creates value across multiple businesses and across multiple territories over a long period of time."[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_franchise

protist,

Wow, thank you for the definition of the word franchise, I had no idea /s

atro_city,

> asks question as if they don't know what it means

> gets a frank response with definition

> pretends they knew all along

protist,

It was a joke, because everything after the first movie might as well not exist. Apparently it wasn’t received.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea,

    Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea,

    It was a single word, Franchise? . Getting a sarcastic answer is absolutely expected.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea,

    Is that how you treat people in your daily life?

    No. I also generally don’t do it online.

    Is that just normal behavior to you?

    Sadly, yes. Especially online.

    The original question was completely lacking enough context to understand the intent. Here are two reasonable interpretations:

    • sarcastic - it’s pretty popular to ignore anything other than the first movie and maybe the animated series, Animatrix
    • unaware - the games weren’t all that popular, and they weren’t that good either

    I understand not wanting to step into potential troll bait. So the sarcastic response, while not appreciated, is completely understandable.

    LandedGentry,

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  • sugar_in_your_tea,

    Troll the troll.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m still not sure why this is in the games community.

    celeste,
    @celeste@kbin.earth avatar

    I guess he canonically dies in a videogame, which is a reason they might not bring him back

    Flemmy,

    Because in videogame Deus Ex was better ha (and Max Payne)

    citizensongbird,

    My understanding is that’s deliberate. The Wacowskis were done with The Matrix, the original trilogy (+ Animatrix) was the complete package. But the powers that be demanded more to milk the franchise, and when the Wacowskis tried to push back, the higher-ups said they would do it with or without them. So the Wacowskis are deliberately sabotaging the sequels, and good on em.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    The fourth movie was written by one of the Wachowskis as a metaphor for their own transition, as a creative outlet during a grieving period after the death of their parents.

    Zahille7,

    I thought the original trilogy was supposed to be the metaphor for transitioning.

    At least that’s what the Wachowskis themselves and the Internet say.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    As I recall them saying, they felt that way maybe in retrospect? They hadn’t transitioned in real life by then, so that’s getting pretty subconscious at that point. At the time, the metaphors that were clear were about dreams, the savior allegory, a sense of not mattering as a cog in the machine, and so forth.

    RampantParanoia2365,

    I think modern society and technology may have played a role, too.

    TachyonTele,

    Did you watch the movie? It’s not a metaphor, it flatly states it’s just a money grab.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I did. Its cynicism about making another Matrix movie is well-noted and some of the most fascinating things about that movie, but it’s also a protagonist swap between Neo and Trinity, which makes a ton of sense for the trans metaphor. It can be cynical about the realities of making the movie and still not be sabotage. And also it was only written by one of the two Wachowskis.

    Yawweee877h444,

    I’m still definitely gonna watch it. It’ll be bad, but I’m gonna watch it.

    Not like in the theater for money. After it’s floating out on the high seas.

    But even if it’s bad it’s still a nostalgia trip back to something that was undeniably amazing.

    I saw matrix 4 twice and liked it. Sue me. Fight me lol

    TachyonTele,

    I would too. That’s how i watched the 4th movie.

    I was obviously taking about in the theatre.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    In general, people aren’t returning to the theater for much of anything anymore.

    TachyonTele,

    I like to boil my porogies, just till they float, then saute them to add some structure to the dough.

    Elevator7009,

    Is this a metaphor I do not understand? Seems like you might have accidentally posted in the wrong community if not.

    dan69,

    OG cast or bust!!

    kopasz7, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]

    That’s actually crazy to me. There must be some untold personal reason.

    spankmonkey,
    @spankmonkey@lemmy.world avatar

    I assume it was because the story involved everyone around Trinity and Neo being different/recast.

    Couldbealeotard, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]
    @Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

    Fishburne was very diplomatic when asked for his opinion on the finished Matrix 4: “it was better than I expected, but not as good as I had hoped”.

    Hugo weaving, the actor for Smith, didn’t appear in the film due to alleged scheduling conflicts, but I suspect he took a look at the script and noped out of it.

    It’s a shame, it could’ve been good.

    4am,

    No way Lana Wachowski didn’t fucking tank Matrix 4 on purpose. It’s even in the fucking dialog it couldn’t be more clear

    Zahille7,

    This has to be it. I watched the RLM video where they say the same thing, then I watched the movie for myself and in the first five minutes of dialog when the new Smith says “our bosses at Warner Brothers” and I was just like “ooookay”

    RampantParanoia2365,

    Didn’t he not even want to do Infinity War and Endgame, which were actually solid stories? I have a feeling he wants no part of The Matrix at this point.

    ragas,

    So he was expecting a major shitshow and was positively surprised that it was just a bit of smelly poop?

    Coreidan, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]

    That’s ok. The movie will be terrible no matter who plays the role.

    SplashJackson, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]

    Matrix resurrections was nothing without morpheus and smith

    CosmicTurtle0,

    I felt like Matrix Resurrections was kind of a circle jerk against itself.

    Boss: “Mr. Anderson. We want you to write a game for this old franchise”

    Neo: “but it’s dead. Why don’t we make something new, and exciting.”

    Boss: “💵”

    p03locke,
    @p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar
    Bezier, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]
    @Bezier@suppo.fi avatar

    Smith: Now what? Things have changed. The market’s tough. I’m sure you can understand why our beloved parent company, Warner Brothers, has decided to make a sequel to the trilogy.

    Neo: What?

    Smith: They informed me they’re gonna to do it with or without us.

    Neo: I thought they couldn’t do that?

    Smith: Oh, they can, and they made it clear they would kill our contract if we didn’t cooperate.

    The film itself explained pretty well why it exists and why it was how it was.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan,
    @inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

    I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling or not…

    Is that seriously in the new one?

    Bezier,
    @Bezier@suppo.fi avatar

    I copied that directly from imdb quotes section.

    I knew resurrections wasn’t going to be a very serious movie, but it caught me off guard when they just went and spelled this out in front of me.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan,
    @inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

    Jfc. That’s so sad. Fuck you WB. For this and many other reasons.

    overload,

    It may have been the best part of the movie too

    Bezier,
    @Bezier@suppo.fi avatar

    Sure made it more memorable

    NotKyloRen,

    I’ve watched it. It is, though it also makes more sense in the context of the film’s plot.

    NuXCOM_90Percent,

    Just to provide context for those who didn’t watch Resurrections:

    Neo is back in The Matrix as Thomas Anderson and is actually a video game developer and his claim to fame game is The Matrix. His business partner shows a lot of signs of being Smith “reborn”. They kind of lampshade that the people who own the rights to their game were going to make another one regardless of whether the creators were involved so it is up to them to either step aside or make the best of it.

    Honestly? Resurrection has grown on me a lot, in large part because the credits sequence of all things recontextualizes the entire movie.

    spoilerBasically, the first act of the movie is (re-)awakening Neo so all the marketing makes it feel like a reboot of 1. Except then it takes a pretty big shift as we find out that everyone who fought in the original wars is old and retired, if not dead. And The Machines want Zion to return as a power source except a faction of The Machines believed in Neo and fought, leading to basically the premise of the MMO where there are two big factions. One wants to return and the other wants to stay free. And a key part of The Matrix is that it requires a Neo and Trinity to provide just the right amount of rebellion (which is more power) but to torment them so that they can’t ever move on and have a happy ending. And the rest of the movie is basically The Kids rescuing Trinity and Neo and Trinity both having The One powers. Culminating in basically a repeat of the ending of 1 where they challenge The Machines and fly off into the distance. All while a fucking ska cover of Rage’s Wake Up plays. And… that is kind of what made me really like the movie even if I really fucking disliked watching it? Because… we (GenX/Millennials) fought our fight and… what did we accomplish? The world is a shitty place that gets shittier by the moment (exponentially in 2025…). We choose to go back to our cages because we are too afraid of the world outside of it and our lack of comforts. And that is what the movie was about. Humanity escaped The Matrix because of Neo… and Humanity went back in because the outside world is scary. And Neo and Trinity are going to have to fight our war again and maybe we’ll care this time but we probably won’t. Rage Against The Machine should have been the anthem of a generation and it mostly was ignored or loved by the machine de la Rocha et al were raging against. And… that is also the thing that gets too real. Because we have a generation that were inspired by what we did. But… what fucking kid even cares enough about Rage to want ska covers? Much like… what kids actually care enough about The Matrix to want a sequel? The sequel is still for the crowd that largely didn’t learn the message of the originals.

    So yeah. I don’t LIKE Resurrections but I also kind of love that it exists? Even if… it existing makes me depressed?

    MimicJar,
    @MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

    I think that’s a pretty great summary. When it comes to unnecessary/years later sequels most are just garbage. I think Matrix 4 is still bad, but I have to give it credit for trying something interesting. It doesn’t work ultimately, but it tried something.

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

    Resurrections was basically a parody of the original trilogy, along with the politics going on in the background of producing Resurrections. The Wachowskies didn’t want to do it at all, but ended up taking the reigns because WB would have made it without them, so they used the opportunity to basically shit all over WB and Hollywood and capitalism in general.

    In that regard, it’s an awesome movie. If you expect more of the same kind of stuff from the originals, you will likely be disappointed.

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