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  • VindictiveJudge,
    @VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

    Same with Paradox games. 4X in general is just really hard to get right on release because of how many interlinking systems there are, so waiting for balance updates at a minimum is never a bad idea.

    recall519, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5

    Civ 7 is out?

    Kolanaki, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5
    @Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

    Civilization peaked at 2.

    shiroininja,

    3 for me. Although I really like 4 too

    T00l_shed,

    I do enjoy 5. But I don’t like 6

    shiroininja,

    I think 6 has too much going on. I don’t care for the districts.

    T00l_shed,

    Me too! I think if the districts were in the city it would be great. Taking up a tile is dumb. I also hate the workers are only good for 3 or 4 tasks

    FarceOfWill,

    It peaked at 4 with the fall from heaven 2 mid

    circuitfarmer, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5
    @circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    It’s more expensive for a worse game than V or VI, both of which can be had for the price of dirt.

    Not surprising.

    Rentlar, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5

    I think a lot of people are waiting for the first Civ7 expansion pack to be released, whenever that may be.

    Civ 6 without R+F, GS feels like a completely different game. As an example, in vanilla you can expand anywhere right up to someone’s borders whereas with the expansion straying too far from your territory you could just lose it to influential pressure from neighbouring cities.

    OutlierBlue,

    I think a lot of people are waiting for the first Civ7 expansion pack to be released

    I’m waiting for the last Civ7 expansion pack to be released.

    Evotech, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5

    I mean, each of these games are just the same as the previous but with less content more or less?

    OutlierBlue,

    They do make changes throughout the series, but every new game is a complete reset to a basic game so they can sell you all the DLC and expansions to make it into a full game.

    glitchdx, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5

    Civ6 still isn’t in a state that I’m happy with playing it over civ 5, or even civ4. What makes them think I’d give civ7 the time of day?

    revanite, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5

    When this game came out, took it as my cue to buy Civ 6 + the DLCs.

    KingThrillgore, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    should have kept that Luigi kid as QA

    ivanafterall, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5
    @ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

    Bring back the UI team from 6 and I’m sold.

    ampersandrew, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    As the article says, it’s history repeating itself. This one made more foundational changes to the formula than 6 did over 5, and once again, if you’re looking to play a Civ game, the old game is still going to be cheaper. I loved 6 when it came out, but when friends were curious about dipping their toes in, I just referred them to 5 because it was almost as good and far cheaper to try out. Civ 6 charts compared to 5 around the same time period are similar. I haven’t picked up 7 yet just because I’m still trying to get through other games, but I’m looking forward to it.

    mox, (edited )

    I just referred them to 5 because it was almost as good

    Why do you consider Civ 6 better than 5?

    Edit for anyone else wanting to answer: Please specify whether you’re including Brave New World (or Gods and Kings) in your comparison, since those expansions significantly improved upon the original Civ 5 release.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    On a technical level, it functioned better. On an artistic level, I liked the look a lot better. On a gameplay level, they were pretty similar, but I liked what they did with city tiles in 6.

    Skua, (edited )

    I'm not the person that you asked, but I do hold the same opinion. My biggest reasons are:

    • Civs are far more incentivised to expand in VI, resulting in more conflict
    • Districts make city placement a much more complicated question
    • The city state influence game is much more interesting than just a spending race and also has more game-changing rewards
    • The culture and science victories are much more interactive with other civs now, rather than just hiding away and waiting for a bar to fill

    I don't think V is bad by any means. It was the one that got me into the series after bouncing off III and IV. I just think that most of the changes in VI were improvements

    mox,

    Are you including Brave New World in that comparison? I’ve never played Civ 5 without it.

    Skua,

    Yes, and Gods & Kings. I did technically play the game without them but it was long enough ago now that I don't really remember it without them

    mox,

    Thanks for the perspective. :)

    alekwithak, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5

    I honestly forgot about civ 7. Wow what a crazy long month it’s been…

    TommySoda, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5

    My philosophy is that Civ 5 and Civ 6 are just fine. My friend was going to buy 7 on release and I was like “yeah, but you can just go play Civ 6. It’s not like it’s a bad game just because the new one is out.” And I’m glad I convinced him otherwise because of how “okay” Civ 7 has been so far. Nothing against the game, I just already have the last three Civ games with all DLC and there is still a mountain of content that we already have to play with each other.

    DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Civilization 7 Outlines Crucial 1.1.1 Update as It Struggles to Compete on Steam Against Civ 6 and Even the 15-Year-Old Civ 5

    No ghandi = fuck you.

    You know they’re going to bring him back as DLC

    deegeese,

    Our words are backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

    Grangle1, do games w BloodBorne Released 10 Years Ago Today, Fans Once Again Organize a Return to Yharnam

    My daily reminder that I’m older than I think/feel like I am.

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