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TurboHarbinger, do games w Well played, Todd: You can see Skyrim, or at least its tallest mountain, from the edge of Oblivion Remastered

Just like you can see cyrodiil from skyrim.

But sure, let’s make an stupid article about it.

edgemaster72,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

ad revenue isn’t gonna generate itself

SkyezOpen,

If we can generate content with Ai I’m sure we can generate views too. Just an endless ouroboros of Ai generating and viewing it’s own shit to milk ad money.

thermal_shock,

Krocodil. Not even once.

nuko147, do games w Well played, Todd: You can see Skyrim, or at least its tallest mountain, from the edge of Oblivion Remastered
@nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

This photo is the BG3 home screen lmao

HiddenLychee,

Yeah I mean they straight ripped it off lol

CosmoNova,

It’s also inspired by „the wanderer“ painting that has been referenced a million times without most people even realizing that yes, someone did that first.

FooBarrington,

Do you mean “Wanderer above the sea of fog”?

The greenery makes it hard for me to see that. I really love Elden Rings take on that painting:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a0e68b24-9de3-4a00-9b0f-815e92bf6a85.jpeg

slazer2au, do games w Well played, Todd: You can see Skyrim, or at least its tallest mountain, from the edge of Oblivion Remastered

You can see the mountain range that borders 2 countries? Stop the fucking presses.

callouscomic, do games w Well played, Todd: You can see Skyrim, or at least its tallest mountain, from the edge of Oblivion Remastered

Yes, it appears to be true; according to numerous posts all over Reddit and Twitter, you can see

Wow. Article based on social media posts. Didn’t even try it themselves. Garbage.

geneva_convenience,
@geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml avatar

Ai slop articles about vidya

Eyck_of_denesle,

This is just a game. I have been seeing so many serious, life and death related news articles with their source being a tweet. This industry is cooked.

carrion0409, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I gotta thank Ubisoft for saving me money by consistently saying dumbass shit so I don’t buy their crappy games. The one Elon tweet was still pretty funny though I won’t lie.

SSNs4evr, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

The way of the future…VCRs went away. DVDRs went away, replaced with DVRs and membership streaming, where you can “buy” a movie on Amazon Prime, but if they lose the rights to the movie, so do you - oh well. Your Tesla will brick, if Elon gets mad at you, and your video games will stop working if “the man” unplugs the server. Oh, and dont get caught pulling out your old dusty VCR to record the Super Bowl to watch later…thats a copyright violation. The oligarchs want to make sure the plebes eventually own nothing. If the masters can take it all away, the peasants will do what they’re told, be quiet about it, and smile when in sight of the masters.

Melonpoly, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

And people will still defend this company

FeelzGoodMan420,

Does anyone defend them? I think what happens is that people get mad at them but then still buy the games anyway hecause they’re absolute fucking idiots. I believe this is what happens.

Melonpoly,

Yeah, that’s true

Bakkoda,

People are still buying the games. Call it what you want but if you give them money it’s your fault they keep doing this.

FeelzGoodMan420,

Yea that’s exactly what I’m saying. I blame the consumers. It’s not like they don’t have options.

carrion0409,

Same goes for the people who whine about how broken COD is yet still buy it every single year. People often wonder why the game industry is the way it is, but then you realize the average person has a gold fish brain and will keep wasting their money on crap just to be disappointed over and over. Companies absolutely love that kind of customer and would rather rely on them than actually try.

Phoenicianpirate, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

This is why I will always have some nostalgia for physical media. I still got CDs I bought in the 90s (which I’ve copied onto my hard drives a long, long time ago) and while they need a like coaxing to work at times, they are forever mine and no one can take them from me.

I was very hesitant to go on steam specifically for their ‘you don’t own shit even if you paid and followed the rules’ garbage.

keen,
@keen@lemmy.world avatar

Steam is crazy in how it’s still usable and not completely enshittified after existing for so many years. I don’t know how they do it

Phoenicianpirate,

I bought Star Wars squadrons and it worked for a bit. Now it doesn’t even boot and I don’t know why. Initially it was my shitty anti-virus that was causing the problem, but even after disabling it it doesn’t load.

infinitesunrise,
@infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net avatar

It’s called staying away from venture capital. It really is as simple as that. Because Valve has a lucrative business model they have no need or desire to raise capital from outside investors, therefore there is nobody to squeeze them for value at the expense of their customers.

If you watch Cory Doctorow’s talk where he coined the word “enshittification” he explains how the process works, and it starts with outside investment. Enshittification is just a catchy term for value extraction, from the perspective of the customer.

keen,
@keen@lemmy.world avatar

Damn, now I understand the hype!

A Blessing From The Lord

arc, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I think there is an implication that if you buy a game which is online by nature (e.g. an MMO) that the servers can and will shut down eventually. My cupboard is filled with defunct MMOs. And people do not “own” any commercial software per se, they run it under licence.

So I don’t see that Ubisoft has any legal obligation here. But as a good will gesture they really should put the server code in escrow, or open source chunks of it so that games can continue to enjoy life after the company itself has no economic incentive to continue running it.

GeneralEmergency, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I find it so strange that people hate Ubisoft for this, but would rush to defend Valve for starting this trend.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

It’s because valve has always been transparent about it. They’ve also put in place a lot of protections for gamers, which is why I trust their store. Their stuff is also a license, but I have yet to see something pulled out of my inventory. Actually there was a game once, and it was a Ubisoft game now that I think of it. I believe that’s when they put in more protections.

Ubisoft wants to make everything cloud dependent and then want us to be happy that we can’t play our games anymore. They lost all of my trust. If it’s not a purchase, then it’s a rental in my eyes, and I’d never pay more than $20 for a rental.

GeneralEmergency,

It’s because valve has always been transparent about it

Gonna stop you right there. It’s only recently, after being forced to. That Steam highlights that you are buying a licence.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Yeah, but it’s always been a license. I’ve never been unaware of that, it’s only now that publishers are starting to abuse that fact that they’re making it obvious. Again, I’ve never been burned by valve, so I trust them. Maybe that’ll change some day, but for now, that’s why they’re doing better.

TheGreenWizard, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version
Mallspice, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

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  • Waryle,

    No, make it a entirely employee-owned company, so they can vote the execs out, sanitize the culture, and keep the thousands of worker out of unemployment

    Mallspice,

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  • Waryle,

    The workers, the gamers, and the industry are glad you’re not in charge of anything, punishing them for things they have no control over, and wasting good talents and infrastructure.

    Mallspice, (edited )

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  • Waryle,

    How old are you?

    Mallspice,

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  • Waryle,

    You want to use the “throw everybody out and see what happens”, and you claim how much better things would be under your governance.

    You’re talking like a Elon Musk wanna-be, even using shitty metaphors that mask all the complexity of the problems, and the cruelty that these kinds of decisions imply.

    You want to throw 20k employees out without any consideration for the economic and personal consequences, not to mention all the other companies around who will see their business sometimes heavily impacted.

    All this to make a stupid metaphor. You’re 14 at best.

    Mallspice,

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  • Waryle,

    You needlessly want to punish tens of thousands of people for the acts of a few hundred. It’s cruel, pointless and very damaging, and your tirades from a high-school essay only support the shallowness and immaturity of your thinking. I won’t waste any more time on you.

    ILikeTraaaains, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

    If they don’t sell the game but a long term rental license, then they should not say “we’ve sold 1234557890 copies of <game>”.

    RowRowRowYourBot,

    The thing is with MMOs or online only games do you have a valid expectation of the game surviving forever?

    ace_of_based, (edited )

    It was deliberate choice by them to make even the single player campaign online homie. It ain’t an mmo, and it never should have been built like this.

    Don’t even play like that wasnt fucked up, ok? If your actual argument is “i think companies should get to do what they want” them say that, with your whole chest, not this Weak socratic-method-bootlick-bull…

    Take that stand and defend it. Or you could also stfu

    RowRowRowYourBot,

    It was deliberate choice by them to make even the single player campaign online homie.

    As one would expect from an online racing game. Anyone buying it would know in advance that single player offline modes do not exist when they bought the game.

    It ain’t an mmo, and it never should have been built like this.

    It kind of was and it was intended to work as it did by the company that made it.

    If your actual argument is “i think companies should get to do what they want”

    My argument us that this is a game designed to be played online only. When you bought the game the packaging/materials do not talk about offline play so you shouldn’t expect it to work in a way it expressly isn’t designed to do. Adults should be aware of what things do when they buy them.

    ace_of_based,

    It ain’t an mmo, and it never should have been built like this.

    It kind of was and it was intended to work as it did by the company that made it.

    Adults don’t dance around semantics in debate when they’re called out. I told you to stand up and this is your response? Mebbe you’re not even hidin! Maybe it’s the only way you can talk?

    I guess you disagree, but I find your speech pattern embarrassing and tiring.

    Be better eh? For me

    RowRowRowYourBot,

    Your perspective seems to be you should get whatever you want regardless of the actual product you were sold and the terms of that sale. That’s not rational. You bought an online only game. If you wanted a single player offline mode to exist then you should have bought a game that had one.

    ace_of_based,

    My perspective is quite clear. I’m calling you a liar and (because liars are such) a loser, in no uncertain terms. Pretending authority is your only tactic. As the likely old-head here I deny you my permission to “be the adult in the room”

    Dremor,
    @Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

    Pretending authority is your only tactic. As the likely old-head here I deny you my permission to “be the adult in the room”

    Call out use of argument from authority fallacy, call to his own authority instead… Quite ironic.

    Well you know what, I call upon the deep magic of rule 2 to remove your message (for the part I didn’t quote, for those who wonder).

    roll dice, get a critical failure “well fu…”

    Anyway, please stay civil, no matter how heated a debate can become.

    ace_of_based,

    Eh, the argument was never civil. I don’t like the whole schtick of “showing immense disrespect buuut not actually name-calling” i see so many lowbrow edgelords employ. That sulky teen shit makes me maldy as all get out. I get there’s gotta be lines somewhere an i crossed em, but i gots to call a spade by its name.

    Anyway have a great morning

    Gates9, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

    “You will own nothing and like it”

    JcbAzPx,

    I don’t like it, though.

    captain_aggravated, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Tell you what customers absolutely can do: decide to stop doing business with you.

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