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davidisgreat, do games w The Metal Gear Solid Collection is so true to Hideo Kojima's "original vision" that it needed a new content warning

What is the “stepfamily incest subplot”? I don’t recall that at all. When I search for it I just find this very same article.

MinorityReportingIn,

I believe that’s referring tothe whole relationship between Otacon and Emma and Otacon and his stepmom in MGS2. The backstory where Otacon slept with his stepmom while he was a minor causing his dad to drown himself in the pool and probably the fact that his step sister was in love with him.

davidisgreat,

I forgot about that

MeaanBeaan,

Yeah… MGS2 certainly is something…

magic_lobster_party, do games w The Metal Gear Solid Collection is so true to Hideo Kojima's "original vision" that it needed a new content warning

Great to know they won’t remove magazine as a weapon

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Well, I’m glad that they’re not butchering it like other games, but still this is just stupid.

magic_lobster_party,

I think this kind of content warnings kind of makes sense for children’s television. But these are games primarily targeted towards adults. We’re able to form our own opinion.

PeachMan,
@PeachMan@lemmy.one avatar

Uhhhhh I first played Sons of Liberty when I was like 12 lol. Video games can and will be played by children.

magic_lobster_party,

They can, but MGS2 is rated M as far as I can tell.

bighi,

Isn’t a warning good for that, though?

A warning helps you make an informed decision.

nevemsenki, (edited )

When everything has a label, all labels are ignored.

Like This chemical has been proven to cause cancer in the state of California, literally plastered on everything.

bighi,

If there’s no label, the option to not ignore it isn’t even there.

If you guys are really in favor of adults being able to make their own informed decisions, hiding important warnings is not the way to go. Or maybe you just want to complain, like many other people.

Make up your mind.

nevemsenki,

I design and operate monitoring systems, and let me tell you, information fatigue is a real thing. Warning labels make sense when sensibly used; otherwise people get conditioned to ignore them, even if they would be crucial. Think of road signs: if there was a speed limit of 10 before every turn, all speed limits would soon lose credibility.

Hardest part of the job is actually learning which alerts we need to keep and which to trim… if we simply slap warnings on everything, everyone would ignore them soon enough.

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’ve been an adult for a little while now and I can confirm: Adults don’t exist. We’re all children with various levels of impulse control. But it is frustrating when you feel like you’re being treated like a child. The reason I learned not to repeat swear words on TV wasn’t because they took all the swear words out. It’s because I repeated them, got in trouble, and learned my lesson. So, I’m not against it, but it shouldn’t be news worthy that someone chose not to butcher prior art.

Fuck me I sound like I’m 60.

TheHobbyist,

I think it’s a reasonable middle ground. Much better than outright removing the content and the warning…

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I think it’s stupid that this behavior is considered worthy of an article. This is how we should be handling this all the time. If the values change, then update the content rating, but don’t touch the content. And for some reason the norm right now is to completely memory hole anything that doesn’t fit the values. I should have been clearer with my comment.

Maven,
@Maven@lemmy.world avatar

Unrelated to video games but Taylor Swift has a song where she threatens to tell the friends of her Ex that he’s gay for breaking up with her. This has since been replaced entirely with a new line and can’t be found on anything but the original 2006 release.

aloeha,

She changed the lyrics of a song called Better Than Revenge where she basically calls a girl who “stole” her man a whore.

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Can you still legally obtain a copy of the 2006 version? Because with music, if it’s a separate release, it doesn’t affect the past work. This is all, obviously, just my opinion. I feel that games suffer from the effects of this more because often when a “remaster” comes out for a 15 year old game, then it’s the only way to play it, because there’s no legal way to obtain a new copy of the old version.

Now that I think about I think the real difference is that games and other software require constant support, then music audio files don’t. Most people do consume music from a streaming platform, but you can still buy most of it in a physical format that you then are allowed to content shift to a format you can actually play. And theoretically once the copyright runs out, it can be shared. Although Disney has been ruining that for a while now. Games, for the most part are less “stable”. And since there’s almost no legal protection for people sharing old dead games, then the remasters can effectively erase prior art if they change content.

normalexit, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

It’ll go on sale for $15 eventually. I can wait.

CatDogL0ver, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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  • Kirca,

    Because just having two characters with the exact same lines is boring, Gerry has had 3 games now, I want to explore someone else as a character, with new motivations, character flaws etc

    IEatDaGoat,

    Let’s be honest, he’s only got 1 game. I tried going back to Witcher 1 and 2 after playing 3 and it’s impossible to adjust to the older game UI. Modding or tweaking it is also not worth it imo so I wouldn’t mind another Geralt game.

    mycelium_underground,
    @mycelium_underground@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t like 2 out of the the 3 geralt games, so I’m going to pretend two don’t exist too support my beliefs is some serious snowflake energy

    IEatDaGoat,

    Snowflake energy? Na man I’m just realistic. I have never met anyone who recommended Witcher 1/2 online or irl. It’s always about Witcher 3, and that’s because it’s still very playable and one of the best games ever.

    It’s the less extreme version of Baldur’s Gate 3. Technically, there are two other games, but you won’t seriously recommend games 1 and 2 to anyone.

    I know you understand my point, and it’s easier to say I’m a snowflake rather than actually say anything useful.

    vordalack, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    I can’t play games anymore because of nonsense like this. I changed hobbies to writing Chinese poetry and watching ballet. The last Ballet I saw was Swan Lake in China. Absolutely beautiful.

    vxx,

    Swansea is too woke. It has a female lead role.

    Apeman42, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"
    @Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

    Not gonna lie, I was hoping they’d use some Law of Surprise stuff to give Geralt a new ward and let you create your own Witcher. But, if instead I get to do teleport strike bullshit with Ciri’s powers, I’ll be content.

    Aux, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    Americans telling Polish how to write their books and make their games, lol. Fuck off!

    vane, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    Why complicate things ? Games are not books. I see Witcher game I expect Geralt. What is wrong with this thinking ? Do I need to think everytime I play Horizon ? No when I play Horizon I expect Aloy.

    There is nothing to do with woke. If you expect people to read books before they play a game there is something wrong with you not with people who want to play a game with their favourite character.

    nuko147,
    @nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

    Geralt needs retirement. The ending of Blood and Wine expansion, tells you that loud and clear, and agree with that. It was a perfect ending for the Trilogy.

    Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now. I dont agree with the decision of Ciri becoming a Witcher (not making her the protagonist, but her taking the Mutagens), but i want to see how they explain that turn of events.

    vane,

    That’s the problem, they want to put Ciri in same gameplay but different story and say that’s new Witcher. I would more likely play as Yenefer sorceress and slay monsters in a Witcher game than play as Ciri that somehow becomes a Witcher just to slay monsters with as sword. We already have character that slays monsters with a sword in Witcher game, he’s called Geralt.

    nuko147,
    @nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

    The game is called Witcher not Witch or wizard though. You could play a mage build in Witcher 3 and have your swords as cosmetics.

    Trainguyrom,

    Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now

    It’s canon in the books too. She was trained at Ker Moren, then trained by Yennefer but ultimately she gives up her magic entirely after pulling from fire as a source out of desperation. She remains an extremely skilled swordswoman with partial mutation

    SleepyBear,

    I dont think its necessarily to complicate things but more that we’ve had Geralt as a main character for 3 games. His time is ending, and if you love him as a main character there are those 3 aforementioned games you can play to get what youre looking for. Switching up the main protagonist to another character that we as gamers have learned to love and accept through the series is probably the best move, both for business and canonically.

    denaggels,

    The Witcher game series is based on the book series.

    The post criticizes not the expectation of players that haven’t read the books, but of the subset of people that think making Ciri the protagonist is a political message, when it’s just staying true to its source.

    Your critique has nothing to do with this post.

    Expectations differ from person to person. You see the games as a separate thing. They are obviously not. But it’s totally fair to want another witcher game with Gerald with his story continued. If the original creator of the story didn’t write it that way, then CD Project Red would have to come up with their own story. Straying too far from source material can end badly - see Game of Thrones seasons 6-8.

    vane,

    Nah the author of article asume that all people that say that Ciri can’t be a witcher it’s because they claim it’s woke and tries to turn those who disagree to say it’s political. I clearly state it’s not. I don’t want Ciri in Witcher because I want to play Geralt. That’s all. The author puts books to afirmate his claims that only people who read books are worthy to say something about Ciri being a Witcher protagonist and that everyone else says it’s woke. No I disagree. Books are not Games.

    ZeroHora,
    @ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

    Did you play TW3? Ciri is co-protagonist of the game, she is the character that has a journey.

    Trainguyrom,

    It’s a game series (and later media series) literally based on a series of books. The short stories tell Garalt’s story, but the longform books are far more about Ciri than they are Geralt. Go read them they’re brilliant books but more important to the point you’ll understand why Ciri is so important to the story that’s being told

    Z3k3, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 dev calls Randy Pitchford's $80 Borderlands 4 comments "gross" because it implies the FPS is more important than "making it day to day"

    Welp looks like it’s know what the next jimquisition is going to be on.

    mriswith, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    I’ve said for years that one or more of the main characters should be prominent, but you play most of the game as a custom character and you get to choose your witcher school. So I’m sort of hoping that she’s the protagonist and main character in a similar way to how she is TW3.

    abigscaryhobo,

    Eh, idk. The Witcher universe has a framework for an RPG, but the books have always been about Geralt and Co. You could do something different in that universe, but I think the story and the games have some very strong structure that comes from the player being Geralt and living his story.

    Witchers are a rare dying breed. Trying to shove another new generic Witcher in would force you into writing a whole new series of stories, and backgrounds, just for that one character, which would make it get lost in the mix imho.

    VirgilMastercard, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

    This comment is woke

    ramble81, do games w Well played, Todd: You can see Skyrim, or at least its tallest mountain, from the edge of Oblivion Remastered

    So I know nothing about the games but each are set in the same world and right next to each other? Do they take place in the same timeframe?

    Reminds me a bit of RDR1 and RDR2

    VindictiveJudge,
    @VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

    Oblivion and Skyrim are 200 years apart, but geographically border each other. Classic Oblivion didn’t render Skyrim, but that was more for technical reasons than anything else. If you get high enough up in Skyrim on a clear day you can see the entire continent.

    GhostedIC, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

    Go Ross Go!

    Killer_Tree,
    FunnyUsername, do games w "Games are meant to be engaging, not exhausting": Lead dev on promising Soulslike RPG says
    @FunnyUsername@lemmy.world avatar

    just please no more sekiro

    reksas, do games w Deep Rock Galactic roguelike dev says innovation for innovation's sake is too expensive to survive: "We're a studio of 50 people with bills to pay"

    I guess I know not to buy more from then in that case. I’m tired of playing same slop from different companies that dont want to try anything new. DRG is good game but it also feels like its not living up to its fullest potential, now i know why.

    pixeltree,
    @pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    This isn’t DRG, this is DRG survivors

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