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FIST_FILLET, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

i’m sorry that you have to deal with the outfall of this, OP. gamers are notoriously the most overly sensitive group to generalize, even when they’re meant to think “i recognize that this is pointing out bad apples in my community”. instead, they immediately start defending themselves as if you specifically named them

the sane response is to go “wow that is awful. the gaming community does indeed contain some terrible people, i am glad to be one of the good ones and will distance myself from this behavior”

PowerCrazy,

the sane response is to go “wow that is awful. the gaming community does indeed contain some terrible people, i am glad to be one of the good ones and will distance myself from this behavior”

I’d say the saner response is none at all. This seems like a pretty niche community issue somewhere on the internet involving at most <100 people. I doubt anyone here is closer then 3 degrees of separation from anyone involved. Why would you expect any of the outsiders here to “take a stand,” based on incomplete information?

vrek,

Yes, but how many of these niche communities are there? Hell, lemmy itself is a niche community and everybody here should take a stand against this sort of stuff occurring here.

PowerCrazy,

On here I’d 100% agree, though if some member here got into some kind of discord drama that you weren’t apart of, why would you choose a side? You’ll have incomplete information, and no doubt one of them will claim they were harassed while leaving out some important details.

stardust, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

I think gaming is too mainstream like television/movie viewers to lump it into some type of niche group/activity these days. Especially with the increased communication and connectivity that the internet provides that brings all sorts of wanted and unwanted people together.

I’m someone who enjoys gaming, and when I play games like The Finals these days I disable chat/voice because most people are assholes. Game previously didn’t have chat and enabling that turned it from what felt like a wholesome community because I wasn’t exposed to their thoughts to it breaking the illusion when they were able to express themselves.

I think this is more a more broad societal issue and a worrying one of being shown what people truly think. Even a minority is a huge amount when the population is billions, so a lot of damage can be done. Games is just another avenue they choose to be toxic in along side other vehicles provided to communicate their thoughts.

Viri4thus, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

Fuck you for bringing sex into this. Fans should not harass volunteers as basic courtesy, the end. Most importantly because the modder wasn’t harassed for being a female but because her work, but you can’t get clicks unless you mobilise the culture war fanatics. American culture wars are pervasive and cancerous and we should strive not to emulate what goes on in that late stage capitalism hellhole.

lorty,
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

Considering the woman being harassed explicitly stated that the harassment she received was mainly misogynistic in nature, no. It very much is relevant to the situation.

Viri4thus,

No shit sherlock, as opposed to what? Polite gender neutral harassment that is the norm? Do you think the damzel in distress trope does anything for the mod author? Do you think the idiots that harassed her would not harass an author of different sex or gender?

Ok_imagination,

Don’t you have some female modders to harass?

Viri4thus,

I’m an equal opportunity hater, I don’t discriminate. Of course, I’m not American so I understand that non discrimination is a hard to grasp concept overseas.

lychee,

Discrimination is just American?

Viri4thus,

You are the champions of the western world

lychee,

quick question what languages do america, mexico, brazil and haiti speak?

NoForwardslashS,

This is a weird and popular trope with various European countries that hold themselves above others. Somehow things like racism and bigotry are purely an American phenomenon, usually said alongside spewing some sort of bigoted vitriol like this guy.

Dudewitbow,

while i understand the sentiment, I don’t think anyone gets the nickname “slutty sex kitten” in a non gendered reason.

Viri4thus,

Thing is, her identifying as a woman has 0 to do with the harassment. I get that clicks get food on the table, but it’s always the same BS disingenuous framing.

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

i mean i suppose it’s still gendered but i can assure you there are tons of gay male couples doing that

Beardsley,

Well that felt unkind. The distinction between male and female is being made because the modder states men are sexually harassing her. There are other forms of harrassment listed, but it seems reasonable to make a distinction since there is a sexual nature to part of it.

Viri4thus,

Quite literally in the article, the first reddit link points to a female user disliking what the mod author did with Daegon. Again, bringing sex into this does nothing but generate clicks. There is an online community that always goes too far in the harassment of PEOPLE, as experienced by modders, devs, et al from all the ticks in the spectrum of sexuality since the dawn of social media. That’s it.

WhyFlip, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

Incels/“gamers” harassing a woman - shocker.

rustyfish, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Thousands of hours, months of hard work. For about 300 bucks and a bunch of incels doxxing and harassing her.

I cannot fathom why she left.

AFC1886VCC, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

Good for her for making the right decision for her own wellbeing. Too many sad little fucks on the Internet who spend all their time harassing others. Pathetic existence.

Kyrgizion, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

The only interaction I’ve ever had with authors of mods and such was sending them thanks for their hard work. Sad.

aluminium, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

They are 100% comming out with their own launcher.

SomeGuy69, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

Stop hitting yourself, argument.

Visstix, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

Safe from what? Convenience?

rockerface,

Safe from the players, of course

fmstrat,

Keep ________ safe. No matter how you fill the blank, you fill it with money.

Melonpoly, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

Yes, because games without PSN accounts are so unsafe and Sony definitely isn’t susceptible to having their servers hacked.

ByteOnBikes,

Sony has a history of being terrible with security.

They literally built malware two decades ago.

Juvyn00b,

I still have an audio CD with their malware embedded. Ripped it under Linux, no problem.

Duamerthrax, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

If Sony games aren’t safe to play without a PSN account, I better not play them at all.

ByteOnBikes,

Ubisoft did that too for a while, forcing Ubisoft logins. And they’re continuing to lose staff and shut down games.

CrowAirbrush, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

So, give him the expected pushback and then some.

guywithoutaname, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

Cause you kept those accounts so safe in 2011.

HeyJoe, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

When they say safer, are they referring to pirating the games? If it helps with that and they don’t need Denuvo or any of that stuff, then I guess it’s helpful. I have no clue if it helps though and I don’t even know where to look anymore to see if these games are pirated, my guess is they are?

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

They are pirated, what he means is what some community manager already said back when this was about Helldivers 2, made their job easier to ban people with playstation accounts.

Zoot,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

How does that work in a single player game though?

bouh,

I wish it was, but it isn’t. It usually about them being able to ban you from playing for whatever reason they deem worthy.

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