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GoodEye8, do games w The Eurogamer 100

I’m going to give my probably controversial opinion. I don’t think Animal Crossing New Horizons should be on that list and the main reason it got critical acclaim is because it released at the height of Covid. Had it released any other time people would’ve seen that it’s a shallow game where in long term it’s mostly a repetition of the same menial actions. There’s nothing wrong with repetition, but having to check the store every day isn’t exactly the peak of compelling gameplay.

Ashtear,

This is 100% an “it’s just not for you” situation. I mean, it’s not really my thing either, but it’s literally the best selling game ever in Japan. That’s not just the pandemic.

GoodEye8,

I agree the genre isn’t exactly for me, but I don’t think that’s really relevant. Stardew Valley and Sims more or less fall in the same genre and I loved Stardew Valley and could see the appeal of Sims. I don’t have an issue with those games being on the list but New Horizons just felt shallow. Outside of collecting things for the Museum there really wasn’t anything that engaging. I remember also checking if I’m just playing it wrong and the sentiment from the AC vets was that the gameplay of New Leaf is better.

I did a quick check to see New Horizon is still in the same state as I remember and some people are claiming the 2.0 update made the game better so I guess I’ll give it another shot one day. Maybe my opinion is dated because I haven’t really played since 1.3 update.

PunchingWood, (edited )

It’s one of those typical games that I tried because the entire world was lyrical about it, including grown adults. Figured I gave it a shot (as a grown adult myself) and it was indeed during the time we had fuck all to do. Didn’t like the game at all and frankly didn’t see the appeal of it either, it’s fine if people enjoy that kind of gameplay, but it was the most bland and “do your daily chores”-game I’ve ever played. It’s baffling how something so stale was regarded so highly.

tea, do games w "Modding is pretty big" says Baldur's Gate 3 director as over 1m mods are installed in less than 24 hours

Some of the UI mods are really good. Gives what can be a bit of a clunky experience some QOL features and look.

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited ) do gaming w Bungie's former Marathon reboot director Chris Barrett reportedly ousted following inappropriate behaviour [Eurogamer]

Yeah this marathon reboot extraction shooter is dead. It’s going to lie in developer hell for years…be silently cancelled and Matt McMuscles will give us an expose of “what happened” a few months later

I will be shocked if this “marathon” reboot sees the light of day

Lianodel, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

Somewhat off topic, but the names of both the publisher and the developer are also used by unrelated tabletop game companies. Hero Games makes the Hero System tabletop RPG, and GameScience (no space, so there’s a difference) make dice. It threw me for a loop.

Maggoty, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

So a video of the game overlaid by a feminist manifesto?

NigelFrobisher, do gaming w Fallout London's volunteer modding team to launch as a new indie studio [Eurogamer]

So proud. Their first step toward being bought out by a massive publisher and then made redundant after a year.

yamanii, do gaming w Borderlands is failing already.
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

It’s been some time since I saw critics and fans so aligned, congrats to the Borderlands movie! lol

DragonTypeWyvern, do games w Kamiya's still keen to make Okami, Viewtiful Joe sequels, even if publisher isn't

Wait, that was an option this whole time?

Sarmyth, do games w Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now

Don’t take early access money if you don’t plan to be giving frequent updates. It’s the nature of the beast.

People don’t expect constant updates from pokemon because when you buy it, it’s “a complete game”. They may drop patches and add content but it’s not expected the way it is from a game supposedly in active development like an early access game is.

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

Don’t buy an early access game if you expect a complete package.

Sarmyth,

It’s not expecting a complete package at the time of purchase. It’s expecting one in due time with your support.

What you are describing is a game outside of early access.

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

Why are those your expectations, then? Seems kind of illogical to look at a system with a history of not that, expect it, then be mad.

You can say it’s not right for it to happen, but to be expecting it just makes no sense at all. Again, I’ll reiterate, you can argue that the system is fucked and needs to change, but, again, expecting an outcome with evidence that it won’t happen, then get mad, is asinine

Sarmyth,

No need to make things up. My expectation is what we get most of the time. You’re the weirdo acting like it’s not. This article is just a developer trying to move the goal posts of expectations yet again.

Like how much of a cuck for these businesses do you want to be?

It’s not illogical to expect a developer to follow the basic standards of the industry they opted into. It would be illogical to declare them the exception.

Small teams drop regular media and content updates all the time without people dying at their desks. The conversation of their working conditions is between them and their bosses (maybe the state), and not their customers.

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

You accused me of making things up and called me a weirdo, honestly you’re a waste of breath.

What did I make up, exactly? Are your feelings always this sensitive?

Sarmyth,

You made up what my expectations were then argued against that instead of reality. Keep shilling though.

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

You LITERALLY said your expectations, dork. I didn’t make up shit, you fucking said it yoursel

I’m not shilling, but good try with that one

Sarmyth,

I did write my expectations. So why was that your response? You called expecting the norm illogical. I take it back. You’re just unrealistic and assume everyone else should be too.

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

You just said I made up your expectations then that yeah you did write them out

So which is it? Did i make it up or did you write them?

Sarmyth,

I wrote them out and you made up something different. Fuck man. How many times do I gotta break it down? You not reading didn’t make my words not exist. This is like… common stuff. This whole argument is making sense now…

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

I didn’t make up anything different at all, you fucking asswad. Liar

Sarmyth,

I also believe you are a liar now. It’s all in text.

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

Exactly, any dipshit can see the chain of events that show you’re just a troll.

ahal,

Nah screw that… don’t buy early access games if you don’t think it’s worth it in it’s current state.

Sarmyth, (edited )

Naw screw that. Don’t label it early access if you don’t plan to update it from its current state at a rate that the majority of your fan base expects.

That said the dev in this article has provided 3 updates in 3 months. They’re totally fine by the expectations of all but the most unreasonable people.

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

Or just don’t buy a game with expectations that don’t match reality and then get mad at other people.

Typical gamer brain rot

Sarmyth,

But my expectations match the norm! You are stupid.

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

Again, typical gamer brain rot

Obviously not, otherwise this discussion wouldn’t be happening. You get that right? This thread wouldn’t exist and there would be no point to talk about this at all.

Use some brain cells

Sarmyth,

OR you are stupid. I’m just not gonna sugercoat it by pretending adding “gamer” to “brain rot” means anything but you exposing your bias.

If you wanna call me stupid, just do that. Don’t tell on yourself.

A gamer is the target audience of the article and this community.

IllIIllIllIIIIl, (edited )

So much entitlement with you lol, yeah and the article is calling you out for being whiney children and demanding things from devs at an unnecessary pace.

Sarmyth,

The article is attempting to move the established goal posts for expectations. Stop shilling for these guys. You don’t need to carry their water. The devs know this, which is why they’ve kept pace. They’re just bitching about having to.

It’s so unreasonable yet we do it. Woe is us.

IllIIllIllIIIIl,

Holy shit you’re a fucking moron, dude.

Sarmyth,

The feeling is mutual.

ms_lane,

Both are true though.

If you want to release your game in Early Access, you should expect to update the game and community frequently.

If you want to buy a game (early access or not), take a look if it’s what you want to play right now, never buy any game, software, service or device that is promising the functionality you want will be coming later. If it does come later, buy it then, never buy on promises.

BilboBargains, do games w Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now

Remove ‘gamers’ and insert ‘bloated management’.

cheddar,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

Is it bloated management who complains on social media and forums?

whotookkarl, (edited )
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

Gamers are not asking devs to work until burnout on social media or forums, that’s management and usually in person or department/company policy and procedure.

Edit: more specifically to the article for solo devs they are talking about critics complaining they should have made something bigger which is not a bad problem to have for securing funding for future games if people like your art enough to request more and doesn’t require working burnout hours.

theangriestbird, do gaming w Capcom's slapstick zombie mall adventure Dead Rising is being remastered

Glad they still left Frank lookin like a caveman

darkghosthunter, do gaming w Capcom's slapstick zombie mall adventure Dead Rising is being remastered

Capcom is on a row giving fans what they want and making millions from it. Compare that to Square Enix.

Vodulas,

I thought the FFVII remakes were pretty well received?

darkghosthunter,

I don’t remember quite well, but it sold well, but not well enough for a AAA franchise.

millie, do gaming w Mod support in Baldur's Gate 3 will be final handover moment to players, says Larian CEO

I’d love to see someone figure out how to up the player limit or link games. Baldur’s Gate would be such a great medium for a D&D roleplay server if it could be set up to handle it.

Drigo, (edited )

Iam pretty sure I have already seen a mod do that. It upped the limit to 8 https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/327

Rakonat, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

Me reading the headline: “Why would Valve make a porn shooter?”

Cethin,

Seeing the Steam store lately I’m honestly surprised there isn’t a porn shooter. Imagine if someone went all in making an OW ripoff, but committed to making adult skins. Think about how much money that could make.

curiousPJ, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

Somehow I get the feeling Valve still had some lingering feelings about the failure of Valve’s TF2 comp and they’re trying to right their wrongs.

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