eurogamer.net

fartsparkles, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.

Guess it’s “Patient Gamer” for me on this one.

mrfriki,

A wise man I see.

Lojcs,

Me when I see a game release

doctortofu, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.

Nope. Voting with my wallet on this one. Paradox can fuck right off with scummy practices like this.

Dr_Box, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.

DLC at launch that isnt just like a stupid cosmetic but actual gameplay is so trash

mindbleach,

Cosmetics are the same abuse.

LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.
@LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net avatar

This is definitely another bad sign for the rest of the game. Way too many issues during development for it to be worth the buy.

C1pher, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.
@C1pher@lemmy.world avatar

No I wont, since I dont support this kind of scam.

NanoooK, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.

Paradox won’t stop doing crap like this because they still sell plenty of DLCs. Stop buying.

onlooker,
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

Not defending Paradox’s scummy business practices in any way, but by and large Paradox games’ DLC usually came after their games have been out for a while. What’s happening with VtM:B2 is a whole other level of shit.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Paradox DLCs also classically add a ton of content every single time. Sure Stellaris kind of sucks as a new player because there’s $260 of content, but it’s perfectly playable and even good with only the base version and then you pick whatever new content you like as you want more of it. Rimworld has the exact same strategy and I don’t see people complain about that. They release a complete game without any obviously missing parts and then keep bolting on cool new extra parts for the next 10 years.

All that to say, yeah this is kind of out of character for Paradox. Which does have me concerned about this.

QuantumStorm,

Not to mention, if you’re playing multi-player, only the host has to have the dlc and everyone playing gets access to it.

ISolox, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.

If this was added after launch and actually added new content, yeah sure (maybe), but at launch? No thanks, I just won’t buy your game at all.

PolandIsAStateOfMind, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Hahaharrrr

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.

Yar har har and fiddle dee dee, see shit like this aboard a ship I’ll be 🏴‍☠️

CocaineShrimp, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.

DLC on launch? lol no

SupraMario,

That’s not dlc at this point, its just a paywall

Agent_Karyo, do games w More action than RPG, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 struggles to convince after a few hours' play - EuroGamer
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a good thing that I haven’t given Paradox money since Cities: Skylines was released (solid game, but the transportation system was lacking on release).

TribblesBestFriend, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.
Dagnet, do games w More action than RPG, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 struggles to convince after a few hours' play - EuroGamer

Let me guess, they toned down the RPG elements of a series known for being RPG heavy in order to reach a wider audience?

givesomefucks,

The author picked a clan that’s all about brute force…

Then complains the game was about brute force except for the parts where you play a vampire from another clan.

I don’t even know much about WoD, but I know he picked the most boring clan and then complained it was boring action.

The reactions to what clan you pick is where the RPG parts seem to come in from other reviews I’ve read.

It’s not like it’ll be a perfect game, but I feel like whoever wrote the review didn’t really get the game.

Agent_Karyo, (edited )
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, the maps were all linear and there were no multiple solutions.

It’s pretty clear they made a random action RPG.

Call_Me_Maple,
@Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world avatar

So it isn’t an immersive sim, there could still be some strong elements of role play involved in terms of dialogue decisions. I’m hoping for the best.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

IS VTM Bloodlines (not to be confused with VTM Redemption or VTM Dating Sim Game) particularly known for being RP heavy? Or, at least, should it be?

Because I played Bloodlines and I even did a replay a few years back. Yeah, the hub city sounds a lot more “alive” than in the article… in the sense that just about every NPC had an interaction. But we also had maybe like ten NPCs (outside of the people dancing to Kidneythieves. Great band). This kind of feels like any game where the engine/tech is at the point that we can handle actual crowds but… how many people in a crowd do you expect to have a conversation with you if you walk up to them?

And the rest of the moment to moment gameplay really did feel like corridors with a few vents you could walk through and a LOT of people to mow down.

Don’t get me wrong. I really would prefer a VTMB that is what we “remember” VTMB to be and not what it actually was. But… that article very much sounds like just about every Troika game: Some REALLY cool dialogue based quests that have little to no bearing on the game outside of what XP bonuses you get. And then pretty janky ARPG combat once they ran out of money. And in that sense? Get the banner because it is Mission Accomplished.


Also my memories of VTM Redemption are that it was some super deep CRPG spanning centuries and was amazing. But I am pretty sure it was also an ARPG with some dialogue. I should replay that…

bitjunkie,
VindictiveJudge, (edited )
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure if this is what they’re talking about, but they made an ARG as part of the early VTMB2 promotion stuff. You had to do stuff within a fake dating app called Tender that was made in-universe to help vampires find feeding targets.

mcv,

I don’t think any CRPG is RP heavy. I don’t think it’s possible for a computer game to roleplay. Well, maybe if they integrate LLMs? But generally, any RP happens entirely in the player’s head.

I think CRPGs that are sometimes seen as RP heavy, are just very well written. That’s not the same thing, although I suppose it’s possible for good writing to inspire RP in the player. But that depends as much on the player as it depends on the writing.

I enjoyed the original VTMB a lot, mostly because of its excellent atmosphere.

EvilEdgelord, do games w More action than RPG, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 struggles to convince after a few hours' play - EuroGamer
@EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works avatar

WHEN YOU COOK TOO LONG, YOU BURN THE SOUP

altkey, do gaming w You'll have to pay for a $20 DLC to unlock two out of six clans in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2.

They could’ve postponed that for like half a year, but they seem to doubt they’d sell anything then, after release. Bad PR move for already troubled game. I think it’s a really bad sign if publishers does just that.

  • Wszystkie
  • Subskrybowane
  • Moderowane
  • Ulubione
  • FromSilesiaToPolesia
  • fediversum
  • esport
  • rowery
  • tech
  • test1
  • krakow
  • muzyka
  • turystyka
  • NomadOffgrid
  • Technologia
  • Psychologia
  • ERP
  • healthcare
  • Gaming
  • Cyfryzacja
  • Blogi
  • shophiajons
  • informasi
  • retro
  • Travel
  • Spoleczenstwo
  • gurgaonproperty
  • slask
  • nauka
  • sport
  • Radiant
  • warnersteve
  • Wszystkie magazyny