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wahming, do games w $70 Mortal Kombat 1 Switch version called "robbery" as graphical comparisons flood the internet

Seriously, it’s a product for sale. Don’t like the price, vote with your wallet and don’t buy it. What’s with the manufactured outrage for every topic nowadays

elbarto777,

I don’t like how many posts cater to outrage lately, true.

But I don’t think this one is manufactured.

wahming,

Yeah, manufactured might have been the wrong word. Pointless? Uncalled for?

elbarto777, (edited )

But why would it be pointless or uncalled for? $70 for a rather old game?

Edit: I’ve been schooled. Is a brand new game with a confusing name. Still $70 for a console game; yikes.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Its not an old game, MK1 is the latest release. The people getting served this are running it on hardware that was weak last generation. At a certain point you simply cannot push these devices any further. MK1 for Switch was never going to look beautiful, the current gen Switch can’t do it. I’m okay with devs making their games available, I mean at least you can play it. Theres a reason a Switch 2 is in the works.

Satelllliiiiiiiteeee,
@Satelllliiiiiiiteeee@kbin.social avatar

This is a brand new game, they just gave it a confusing name

wahming,

Because you have the full choice to not buy and support it, if you think the price is unreasonable. It’s not a vital need, and nobody’s forcing customers to buy it. Housing, food, healthcare, we don’t have a choice. Buy or die. A video game? Not so much. The issue is not game publishers overcharging, it’s players who moan and whine… AND THEN BUY IT ANYWAY, thus ensuring the publishers will continue the practice

elbarto777,

Sure, but are we talking about people who buy the game, or people in general bashing at the price? They’re not necessarily the same group.

It’s like when Apple announced that $1000 monitor stand. It was laughable. Even if I won’t buy one, I bashed it to no end, because it was fun.

Vamanos,

Others have already replied with this info but I’m just spelling it out for anyone who is not familiar like me:

They fucking named the brand new game mk1. Is it a remaster? No. It’s not a remaster. Is it a recreation of mk1? No. It’s an alternate timeline game given the worst name in the history of naming things. It’s genuinely a brand new game.

elbarto777,

Holy shit. They really fucked up with that name.

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

I mean… we live in the timeline where we had the Xbox One being the third Xbox, and Battlefield 1 not being the first Battlefield.

I would not be surprised if we start seeing “[Game Title] One” for rebooted games.

Vamanos,

Sometimes I wish I could have a job where companies just say “hey should we make this decision” and I tell them “that’s so fucking stupid no one will actually like that” and get paid well for it.

That’s my dream.

geosoco,

I've had some similar roles before, but more often than not companies just do it anyway, even if you have a lot of data to the contrary. It's stupidly easy for someone in management to push some of this through despite the data, choose an arbitrary metric to define their success, get their bonus, and then bail for another company. Meanwhile, folks left at the company have to then try and fix all of the nonsense. It blows that we value failing forward. I've seen a few decent products just tanked this way.

VonCesaw,

That’s standard price for new games from EA, greater Microsoft (id, Bethesda, Obsidian, 343, etc), SqEnix, and WB

elbarto777, (edited )

Which is bullshit. It reminds me of when web email services offered ridiculously small inbox sizes, such as 25MB or 50MB. Then in came Google and offered 1GB, and all of a sudden all those companies found the way to match Google’s offering.

But I guess if people are willing to pay for those ridiculous prices, and deal with in-game payments… shrug.

Lojcs,

I don’t think it’s “outrage”. It’s people making fun of the port on x and the website capitalizing on that to publish a story

wahming,

They’re calling it robbery and disrespectful. I’m not seeing where the joke is

Lojcs,

Crying at the Switch version of Mortal Kombat 1, Why didn’t they just wait for the next gen switch console, the fact it costs 70$ is robbery💀💀💀

I think it’s clear that they’re not literally calling it a robbery, they’re just expressing their discontent in a twitter way.

BeardedGingerWonder,

People are complaining because they don’t like a thing, that’s fine. Same as you’re complaining in this post. Call companies out on their bullshit. Also don’t buy bullshit, that’s a good point too.

wahming,

Because it doesn’t qualify as bullshit. Company made a product, set a price. Either you find it worth the price or not, but either way what’s the reason to kick up a fuss over an optional good

FooBarrington,

Company also sold pre-orders for a product, which means people can’t really decide whether the product is exactly what they want until they get it. At which point they complain, because they trusted the company not to sell a sub-par product. What is your issue?

wahming,

? The complaint right now is about the price, not the quality of the product. Are you saying they didn’t know the price when they preordered it?

On a side note, preorders are a scam. If you’re dumb enough to preorder a game in unlimited supply, that’s on you.

FooBarrington,

My guy, the complaint is about the price because of the quality. Or, as you are asking, are you saying people didn’t know the price when they bought it?

On a side note, preorders are a scam. If you’re dumb enough to preorder a game in unlimited supply, that’s on you.

I agree that pre-orders are a scam, but it’s shitty to say “you knew what you bought!” when some people literally couldn’t.

wahming,

I’m not saying they knew what they bought, I’m saying it’s on them for choosing to buy before they knew what they were buying. Seriously, people need to take responsibility for their choices already.

FooBarrington,

Earlier you said:

Company made a product, set a price. Either you find it worth the price or not, but either way what’s the reason to kick up a fuss over an optional good

Now you’re saying it’s on people who pre-order. Can’t we stop pushing this on the consumer and start demanding better from the manufacturers? Why can they sell shitty products, instead of being held to higher standards?

wahming,

In this particular case, it’s not on the publisher. The switch is an old console, and there’s only so much they can do with the hardware. It’s not a particularly big surprise to anybody familiar with the technology.

Why SHOULDN’T we hold consumers to task for their bad decisions? They are arguably making things worse for the rest of us, by repeatedly rewarding bad behaviour from companies. There is no good reason for them to preorder, they just had to be the first instead of waiting a day for reviews to appear. Well, if you’re going to be impatient, guess what? The risk is on you.

FooBarrington,

In this particular case, it’s not on the publisher. The switch is an old console, and there’s only so much they can do with the hardware. It’s not a particularly big surprise to anybody familiar with the technology.

Then they should be open about this before and during release.

Why SHOULDN’T we hold consumers to task for their bad decisions?

Because it doesn’t work. One side of the equation spends lots of money to make sure as many consumers as possible make bad decisions, because it makes them even more money. You can’t fix this only by changing the other side.

wahming,

I didn’t suggest fixing it. I said the consumers consciously made a bad decision, and they should take responsibility for it. I’m tired of grown ups acting like kids.

FooBarrington,

And by pushing the responsibility onto the consumer, all you do is support the shitty business practices of the manufacturer.

SSUPII, do games w $70 Mortal Kombat 1 Switch version called "robbery" as graphical comparisons flood the internet

For the quality offered the cost was very steep, but its also true the Switch doing some major heavy lifting already.

elbarto777,

What does that mean, the Switch doing some major heavy lifting?

SSUPII,

The hardware the game is running is painfully terrible in 2023.

else,

While the OP meant it the way he answered you, the way I see it used most often colloquially is that when someone or something does the heavy lifting especially in gaming, they are providing the bulk of the work. Like doing the heavy lifting in a team game equates to carrying the team, or saying a character does the heavy lifting instead of the player, means the character is overpowered and carrying the player (or vice versa).

koreth, do games w Marvel's Avengers receives hulking discount ahead of delisting

As a fan of Ms. Marvel, I enjoyed the main campaign well enough, but all the MMO stuff is obnoxious. Luckily you can mostly ignore it and go through the campaign missions single-player. I uninstalled it after getting to the end of the story.

pimento64, do games w $70 Mortal Kombat 1 Switch version called "robbery" as graphical comparisons flood the internet

Inb4 the “omg this is so entitled I swear I mean you guys are sending us DEATH THREATS I have PROOF that DEATH THREATS were sent to the developers (by our firm’s sockpuppet accounts) and that is so uncool stop being so ENTITLED” PR statement

JasSmith,

Ah, the Disney defence. “Everyone who dislikes our movie is a racist/misogynist.”

Johnvanjim, do games w Marvel's Avengers receives hulking discount ahead of delisting

Too bad the game is hot garbage with way too many microtransactions and timers.

VelociCatTurd,

I don’t know about the timers but there are no microtransactions now. Everything locked behind a paywall is now available at the start.

jballs, do games w Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth gets a February 2024 release date on PS5
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Real time combat just doesn’t make sense! You’re controlling a party of characters. You can’t possibly juggle the attacks and abilities of 3 characters in real time. So it forces you to pick one character to focus on, while ignoring the others. Which is just lame. The last FF I played was 8, so I can talk to how they’ve done it with others more recently.

gk99, do games w Ubisoft Montreal's mandatory return-to-office order reportedly leaves staff in "turmoil"

To re-iterate, Ubisoft has done nothing to curb the sexual harassment issues that were reported ages ago and, frankly, simply not requiring return to office would’ve solved that problem along with a boost to employee happiness and workplace attractiveness.

keefshape, do games w Ubisoft Montreal's mandatory return-to-office order reportedly leaves staff in "turmoil"

I am truly fortunate to work for a game industry studio, also Montreal, that has not seen fit to do this. A good thing, as I was hired on fully remote from halfway across the country 😆

Even if I were local, working remote has been transformative for me to the point that it is a criteria in my job seeking. I won’t, can’t take a role without it.

If done right, with the right trust and understanding, remote work increases productivity for most butt-in-chair jobs.

JJROKCZ, (edited ) do games w Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Realms of Ruin shows off how it "delivers a truly comprehensive RTS game at launch"

Why can’t we get this level of effort into a good 40k game?

Edit: this gives almost lotr:bfme2 vibes

sp6, (edited ) do games w Apex Legends bans over 2000 cheaters as it gets set for the Harbingers Collection Event

Considering less than a month ago they were making headlines for mistakenly banning linux players (but eventually unbanning them, thankfully), makes me wonder how many of those bans are false-positives.

I was one of the linux players who was banned. It took them about 8 days for them to unban me in-game, and then it took another week for my EA ban history to change from “active” to “overturned,” with an email from EA. No apology, no sort of in-game compensation, just basically a “be thankful you can play again.”

~25% of the linux players are still banned. Some definitely cheated, some I would be shocked if they cheated, just considering the amount of hours and money they had put into their account, along with how enthusiastic they were about getting themselves (and others) unbanned. So shocked that I’m almost certain they’re false positives. Which makes me hesitant to keep playing - what if that happens to me? If they treat their Steam Deck and linux users this way, is that a game I really want to support?

darkeox,

That's the problem with non official support. You're basically in an unending beta-testing phase. Theres' no easy solution here I'm afraid.

sp6,

Well Respawn explicitly enabling Easy Anti-Cheat’s Proton support (plus the game being Steam Deck Verified) is about as official as we’re gonna get for the vast majority of multiplayer games. I think it’s more of an issue around EA firing 99% of their QA testers…

darkeox,

Well the thing with those "enabled EAC on Linux to see where it gets us" is it's non-binding and non-commital. And it's made explicitely that way so that support cannot be demanded from Linux users unlike Windows users who are explicitely mentioned in the systems supported by the game.

We legally don't have any ground to be supported the same as Windows users.

Geek_King, do games w Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Realms of Ruin shows off how it "delivers a truly comprehensive RTS game at launch"

I’d be interested in a honest to diety rts set in the age of sigmar! It’s too bad Dawn Of War 3 was trash.

thecrotch, do games w Square Enix games misfire due to being "single producer's fiefdom", report suggests

Final fantasy should have stayed turn based. Realtime combat is what secret of mana was for.

nimmo, do games w Ubisoft Montreal's mandatory return-to-office order reportedly leaves staff in "turmoil"
@nimmo@lem.nimmog.uk avatar

I find it quite interesting that Ubisoft Montreal chose the same day as my employer to enforce 2 days in the office every week.

I’ll accept that there is a 1 in 356.25 chance that any employer will pick a specific day to enforce a return to office, but it does seem interesting that there would be 2 employers in different countries picking the same day. Is there something special about that day that makes it a special day to change where and how people work? (I know that there were events on 2001 that took place on this day, but that doesn’t seem too likely a reason to pick that particular day to enact this change)

Dienervent,

It's a monday. So that's already more like 1 in 52. There's been like 5-20 news worthy "return to work" announcements in the past year, I'm guessing half othem have mandatory 2 days, the other half have mandatory 3 days.

Multiply that by the number of things that happen in your life where a coincidence of this level could happen and you should be seeing this kind of coincidence a many times each year.

nimmo,
@nimmo@lem.nimmog.uk avatar

Fair points well made. I thought the 11th was a Wednesday and I’ve been off on holiday for a week or so, so brain no worky so good just now.

I’ll l go back under my lurking rock again.

Oneobi,

Heh, the 2 days will become 3 and then 4.

These idiots are totally destroying work life balance but honestly, they do not care about our welfare or mental health. We are just human machines that they think they own.

What is completely laughable is how they have become advocates of the environment and reducing carbon. Yah, my unnecessary shitty commute is really not contributing! They turn a blind eye to that yo.

sugar_in_your_tea,

We recently went from 2 days to 3 days, and I chalked it up to our new CEO (old one replaced for unrelated reasons). Granted, many departments were full remote, in violation of company policy.

I’m hopeful that we can get back down to 2 days in office. However, if the industry goes for 3 days as standard, the might not be realistic.

Olap, do games w Ubisoft Montreal's mandatory return-to-office order reportedly leaves staff in "turmoil"

What better way to manage head counts down?

ISOmorph,

That’s the devious part. It’s just mass layoffs without the severance packages.

conciselyverbose,

It still counts as firing you most places. Materially changing the work environment and obligations is constructive dismissal

Unforeseen,

Especially in Canada, and particularly in Quebec

108, do games w Sephiroth will be fully playable in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
@108@kbin.social avatar

I'm curious how it would have been if they kept this secret. They like to spoil all their own surprises these days.

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