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Pratai, do games w Gothic: We Got A Sneak Peek At The Remake Of A Classic RPG From The 2000s

I really wish these developers would stop making remakes and start making new games. Same with movies. This shit needs to stop.

Naz,

While I agree with the general sentiment, Gothic 1 is basically unplayable on modern hardware. It outright crashes, and a generation of players misses out on one of the best/most pivotal western cRPGs in history.

Not to mention, graphics cards and even the worst potato are so much more powerful than our gaming rigs in 2001 that we can afford more than 32 MB of video memory for textures that don’t look like blurry smears, or perhaps, characters with actual fingers.

agressivelyPassive,

Both could be fixed by mods/patches - even official ones. You don’t need a remake.

Old games, just like old movies, are only relevant and great as products of their time. Gothic is dated as hell in many regards - which is perfectly ok - so a remake would either be just a glorified texture pack or wouldn’t be true to the original.

Make it playable, add new textures, higher resolution, etc. where possible, but don’t change the actual game.

Naz,

I agree with that

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

Some games are so borked from a technical perspective they'd need a remake to work right, like Oblivion. That game is so technically bottlenecked by itself that even on modern hardware I fucking stutter, and I've trawled so many performance mods with fellow players in the comments just having to come to terms with the fact that no mod can fix the inherently poor optimization on an engine level.

Remakes can definitely be warranted in certain cases. Sometimes it's easier to just start over clean than try to untangle an existing mess and Frankenstein it back together. Sometimes making vast changes can produce an alternative reality of a game to be enjoyed by more or a different audience, like the Resident Evil Remakes, which are fucking excellent, or the FF7 remake, which, while contentious, is mostly only so because of purists, who do still have the original they can play (and I do believe companies should always keep the original around)

And009,

This generation can’t figure out that game anyway. It’ll be more difficult than darksouls

Gullible,

Games that would appreciate an update never receive one and games that wouldn’t receive several. That is to say, give me ps1/ps2 armored core remakes without terrible controls already. They would surely be profitable now.

Zoidsberg, do games w Gothic: We Got A Sneak Peek At The Remake Of A Classic RPG From The 2000s
@Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca avatar

classic

2000s

Ah, I guess I’m old now.

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

You hate to see it

ampersandrew, do gaming w Was There A Game That Did Enemies Better Than Mass Effect 3?
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

There are a lot of reasons to love the Mass Effect games, but even after reading the article, my answer to the question it poses is, "Yeah, tons." The things this article cites as novel are pretty much universal to video game enemy design, and I can't think of anything that any Mass Effect game invented here.

ninjan, do gaming w Was There A Game That Did Enemies Better Than Mass Effect 3?

That was the most milquetoast take I’ve ever skimmed. Utter drivel. Ugh.

Herbstzeitlose, do gaming w Was There A Game That Did Enemies Better Than Mass Effect 3?

tl;dr: The zombies look like PEOPLE! 😱

jordanlund, do gaming w Was There A Game That Did Enemies Better Than Mass Effect 3?
!deleted7836 avatar

Mass Effect 1 and 2 come to mind…

Oneeightnine, do gaming w Was There A Game That Did Enemies Better Than Mass Effect 3?
!deleted4231 avatar

Am I alone in not remembering literally any enemy in Mass Effect 3?

stopthatgirl7,
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Even the Banshees? That’s the one enemy that usually still makes people start cussing.

wahming, (edited ) do games w Dave The Diver Director Says Future Updates Will Add New Side Missions And Fish

How about getting the game to play at 60 freaking FPS

Edit: I guess from the downvotes that everybody’s playing this on their custom gaming rig. Seriously, the performance is awful for a pixel art game

FracturedEel,

Are you playing it on a potato

wahming,

1 year old macbook pro, which you’d think would suffice for a game of this graphical quality

sparse_neuron,

Works at 60FPS on a Steam deck so not sure what’s going on with your machine.

wahming,

1 year old macbook pro, which you’d think would suffice for a game of this graphical quality

sparse_neuron,

Sounds more like a Mac software issue then a game issue.

Kolanaki, do gaming w The Fuss Over The Term 'JRPG' Says A Lot About The State Of The Genre
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The fuss seems to be mostly just the Japanese developers getting butthurt that people in the west got bored of their simplistic combat systems and random encounters, and came up with a term to differentiate the games that, at the time were entirely developed in Japan, that fit this style.

It’s not the Japanese part that made them disliked more. It was the style of gameplay they offered. If you played one, you played them all, basically. They are barely RPGs, taking a more linear, choiceless approach to not only character creation, but dialogue options if even offered, are generally “yes/no” responses to questions that don’t have any real impact.

It took the big developers of these games way too long to actually listen to fans’ very valid criticisms and make changes to these systems, and they still very much keep so many more traditions that the term endures.

LanAkou, do gaming w The Fuss Over The Term 'JRPG' Says A Lot About The State Of The Genre

Seeing Nier Automata on this list makes me think the author hasn’t finished it. I’m not sure how you finish a full playthrough and come away with “2B’s combat was kind of basic” while ignoring everything else it was doing.

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

“2B’s combat was kind of basic”

I haven't played Nier, but I'd say that defines perfectly Platinum games' games (or at least the ones I played)

Lionir,

I haven’t played Nier, but I’d say that defines perfectly Platinum games’ games (or at least the ones I played)

Bayonetta has basic combat? Isn’t Platinum known for their combat and gameplay?

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

Bayonetta has basic combat?

When I bough Bayonetta 1+2 for the Wii U I was expecting something close to Devil May Cry (They share the same director and almost the same developing team, after all) but it was a huge disappointment everything is so dumbed down and simple that is not even fun. People only likes it because they are satisfied with the over-the-top action and Bayonetta one-liners and that's all.

My main complains with Bayonetta are the following:

All the weapons feel the same, where the only change is the attack speed, their cosmetic appearance and in some cases some minor and useless changes, like if you hold the attack buttons and the weapons you have equiped are fireweapons, they shoot (with this I mean combos, like PPPK, KKKPK, etc... do the same with every weapon, except maybe the Kulshedra, the extremely basic whip, the weapons do not feel unique in any meaningful way, they all have the same moveset and combos. In Devil May Cry each weapon is unique, with their own moveset and combos, and their moveset changes depending on the style you have active, for extra depth)

Finding the secret stuff is too easy (except for some verses and Alfheim, that require some backtrack at specific points, but finding the vinyls to get new weapons is too easy)

Speaking of the Alfheims, they are not even chanllenging (compared to the Secret Missions in Devil May Cry)

Bayonetta 2 is even worse, everything is way more simplistic and easy than the first one, I haven't bothered with Bayonetta 3

This is what playing Bayonetta feels like

derin, do gaming w Let's Just Calm Down About The Nudity In Baldur's Gate 3
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

Who are the streamers whining about this? I guess I haven’t been exposed to the controversy yet, so I’m curious what they’re saying.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

Yeah, I really wish the writer had linked to some examples of what they’re talking about.

TheRazorX,

Best thing i could find on it. doesn't seem like it's actually a controversy

grimaferve, do gaming w Let's Just Calm Down About The Nudity In Baldur's Gate 3

I mostly agree. Games of all types can co-exist and knowing this doesn't ruin enjoyment of the games that I do play.

Like Skyrim modding for example, there's so many mods that display fanservice, nudity and even intercourse. Does that ruin the game for me? Not at all. In fact, I still play it despite that knowledge. I simply choose not to use mods that I don't want to use.

Or a certain magicky wizarding game, that game can exist too without wishing death on people who want to play it. Doesn't mean I have to play it, nor does it ruin gaming for me.

Instead, the logical thing to do would be to pass on this game and find another. I fully understand that BG3 is one of the games of our lifetime, but it's not the game for me. (Of which there are many)

As someone who grew up watching my father crawl through dungeons (I think he enjoyed IWD more than BG), it's great to see Baldur's Gate at the forefront. Hopefully more of my childhood favourite RPGs will come back. I'd love to see Dungeon Siege and Neverwinter Nights brought back.

Karak,

The wizarding game upsets me. I grew up with that series and it is literally a game I would have loved to play as a kid, but I don't want to support the TERF. Low-key hoping it comes to ps+ so I can get it without giving them money.

GreenAlex, do gaming w Let's Just Calm Down About The Nudity In Baldur's Gate 3
@GreenAlex@kbin.social avatar

I personally am not one for nudity in my games but BG3 is literally the dumbest hill to die on. If anyone actually is, I didn't see any examples. Reason being, the first thing that happens when you start the game is that it asks if you want to turn it off.

TheRtRevKaiser, do gaming w Let's Just Calm Down About The Nudity In Baldur's Gate 3
@TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org avatar

Locking this thread as the discussion seems to be devolving.

SamPond, do gaming w Let's Just Calm Down About The Nudity In Baldur's Gate 3
@SamPond@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I see we have reached the point where people are going to start saying “Okay, its time for everyone stop having fun” and writing about how the game isn’t that big of deal.

Point being: let’s not listen to the shrieking streamers and strange subsection of Japanese game defenders, and just calm down about some naked adult bodies standing around in a character creator, shall we? It’s time games got comfortable with the human form.

Let’s be frank: The real point is that the writer wants to feel superior to both of these demographics. Not that I support either, but this is just someone acting smug and superior and wanting a cookie for it. But I gotta say that the more blatant aspect is this ridiculous take that keeps popping up in modern criticism:

But there’s also plain old casual nudity—something that US cinema has historically shied away from (particularly with the male form), but that European cinema has been way more comfortable with for years. The whole gap between how the US and European ratings boards react to nudity is pretty well documented, and well summarised in this piece written at Quartz. Baldur’s Gate 3 is, of course, a European-made game, and we—yep, even us fusty old Brits—are historically a lot more relaxed about that kind of stuff.

Which is just absurd. I’m not North American, but let me tell you, if I see any plain dicks or pussy in a movie or TV series or game, it will be A Thing for me. I won’t just sit there and act like a robot thinking “That’s just a organic human body, much like mine, there’s nothing unusual about that”. There’s no homogenous understanding in Europe, or South America or in any other non-US country where full blown nudity is just a casual happening that anyone would not bat an eye at, adult or not.

Furthermore:

Streamers are “shocked” by the nudity? Well, that’s because they’re either a) sheltered people whose lives are largely based in their bedrooms and/or b) aware of the fact that looking aghast, being shocked, and squealing at the sight of a willy or tuft of pubes counts as entertainment. It’s a tale as old as PewDiePie: overreact on camera to things that happen in a game, and you’ll keep viewers, especially younger ones, engaged.

Whether it’s a performance or genuine shock, or a bit of both, video game streamers exist in a pretty particular bubble whose reactions aren’t exactly a gauge of society at large.

I won’t deny that streamers overact for views and content, but honestly? Fuck this guy. If I were playing by myself and saw a random cock dangling on my screen, I would have a reaction and feel flustered. If I were playing in front of hundreds, maybe thousands of strangers online? You can bet your ass that I would have a mini-anxiety attack. If the average streamer is a "sheltered people whose lives are largely based in their bedrooms " (again, fuck this writer) then that’s even more reason to not make light of a moment of panic. Having a hobby where you get to interact with people beyond your screen instead of face-to-face can be a mirror, but it also opens you to a lot of repercussions and a human, if overblown reaction like this being talked down is genuinely infuriating.

Frankly, this is just a plain asshole of a person, and the fact that every other writing of theirs on BG3 is “Its not that good, everyone” just solidifies my stance.

MossyFeathers,
@MossyFeathers@pawb.social avatar

I won’t deny that streamers overact for views and content…

The reason why streamers freak out about bob’s and vagene is because Twitch has some pretty hardcore rules about what’s acceptable and what’s not. Nudity and sexual content are only allowed in unmodded games. Any nudity or sexual content is a bannable offense if the game has been modded or if the streamer brings too much attention to it. Streams that are rated “for mature audiences” don’t give streamers a free pass to in-game nudity, they just make the rules slightly more flexible.

Vinny Vinesauce got banned a few years ago for a few frames of Bladerunner 2049 titty because it was part of an overhaul mod that turned Serious Sam into a Bladerunner game. These were tit pics that were in the movie. Didn’t matter to twitch, he still got a temp ban. When a streamer stops the stream to delete the stream vod, that’s not “playing it up” or prudishness, that’s them trying to keep their ass in one piece.

Hell. I watch a number of furry streamers, some of whom openly joke about fetishes and kinks, and they freak out about nudity on stream.

Cail,
@Cail@kbin.social avatar

That's fair but the very first thing that happens when you start BG3 is a "do you want to see nudity?" checkbox

MossyFeathers,
@MossyFeathers@pawb.social avatar

Right. I was adding onto the statement the person I replied to was making. The original article talks about how streamers pretend to be all shocked and appalled by Japanese nudity but are unfazed by baldurs gate. My point is that streamers have to be serious about nudity because twitch can and will ban them for it.

forbiddenlake,
@forbiddenlake@fedia.io avatar

I was watching a streamer who had nudity off and bare breasts still flashed on stream while the game loaded in. So, she no longer switches the stream to show the game before loading a save for the first time that day. And she deleted the clip and the VOD to cover her own ass from Twitch. Not sure if the game was, or can be, fixed for this, but the checkbox isn't the panacea most think it is.

gowan,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

I think you hit the nail on the head with how surprised someone might be when they are streaming to a large crowd. I can account for the 10 or so people that watch my buddy stream being adults because I have played with most of them. A big streamer can’t know their audience and if that provided their income surprise nudity could have a real impact

lolcatnip,

If I were playing by myself and saw a random cock dangling on my screen, I would have a reaction and feel flustered.

You’re missing something big: it’s NOT a surprise. Literally the first thing that happens when you open the game for the first time is it asks you if you want to enable nudity. You have to answer that question before you even get to the main menu.

SamPond,
@SamPond@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“Show Nudity” is still very vague. For any other videogame, it’d mean at best some nipples. The instance of full frontal in any media is extremely rare, hence the reactions are still justified. It would be a surprise, yes.

lolcatnip,

If you’re bothered by any kind of nudity, just say no when you’re asked if you want nudity. It’s really not complicated. It sounds like the only way to satisfy you is for the game to offer the exact amount of nudity you’re comfortable with and not a bit more.

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