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TheGreenWizard, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th

Mass Effect 3 and The Wandering Village, having an amazing time!

kazerniel, (edited ) do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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I’ll upgrade to 11 Enterprise via massgrave.

Sadly with Adobe and some of my online games not supporting Linux, I have to stick with Windows :/ I’ll just try to disable all the telemetry and AI crap via O&O and group policies.

Retrograde,
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Damn, Adobe doesn’t support Linux at all? Guess I’m staying on Windows too :/

Soapbox1858,
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The only way to use Adobe products on Linux are the web apps (which are limited) or in a windows virtual machine (slow) or by dual booting into windows (annoying).

You can run really old versions of Photoshop via Wine. But if your needs are that simple, you can probably just use Photopea.

For my use case of Lightroom for accessing and editing final photos across my computer and phone, and occasional photoshop use (mostly for printing) I am able to get by with the web apps, and windows virtual machine.

I would love to drop adobe. But the Lightroom Mobile cloud storage sync feature is too invaluable to me right now and there is no other option that comes close to that feature.

Retrograde,
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Ah, yeah - Lightroom itself is their crown jewel these days, let’s be honest

kazerniel,
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No, all the current versions are reported various levels of broken :/ Generally they can’t install, so you have to copy an installation from Windows, then there are some that don’t load at all, some only load to splash screen, some do work after you patch their broken UI and manually copy some Windows DLL-s. So idk, you might get lucky with the specific program/version/feature combo you need, but it just sounds like a pain to me.

rabber,

Ya I can’t live without Adobe suite so same boat

Asafum,

What is O&O? I’m not to keen on jumping to Linux either, but I REALLY don’t like the idea of having recall active and having Microsuck know literally everything I do…

kazerniel,
@kazerniel@lemmy.world avatar

O&O Shutup10++ (theoretically works on 11 too)

Not sure what it can do on Home/Pro editions, I’ve only ever tried it on Enterprise.

Asafum,

That looks awesome, thanks for sharing!

Worstdriver, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I have no plans to either update to win11 or change back to chanting magic spells at my computer to get it to work (Ubuntu, many years ago).

My computer works and does everything I want it to. Basic internet security and reasonable precautions are sufficient for a low level user like me to stay safe.

ploot,

The Linux experience has changed quite a lot over the years. You’re unlikely to have trouble getting your computer to work with it now.

Worstdriver,

Possibly/Probably but as I said. Right now win 10 runs all my productivity, gaming and streaming software such as OBS and Veadotube.

They run and run well. I have literally no incentive to switch to either a Linux distro or win11. If that changes, then I’ll consider changing my OS, but until then…why would anyone?

blixtuwu, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I already moved to linux (In my case Linux Mint) two weeks ago ^^

Jimmycakes, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Just upgrade yall are so dramatic for no reason at all. If 11 is that bad just switch to Linux.

HiddenLychee,

People might get a little emotional about it but I bounce between Linux Mint, windows 10, and windows 11 and honestly I totally agree that windows 11 is trash. When my windows 10 computer reaches it’s limit, I might try to figure out how to run games on Linux/proton or whatever that is.

carrion0409, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Honestly, I still don’t know. My 3070 worked well on linux the last time I used it so hardware won’t be an issue. I also don’t play many modern games so that’s not a problem either. It’s just my partner is schizo with what games they wanna play. Rn they’re obsessed with minecraft and bedrock doesn’t work on linux. I know for sure I’m not going to 11 though. I’ve used it before and absolutely hated the UI layout.

secret300,

First off, bedrock is cancer it’s just off-brand Minecraft.

But second, there is an unofficial launcher that works on Linux

flathub.org/apps/io.mrarm.mcpelauncher

SammyJK, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th

I have been playing a LOT of Tropico 6 and Siralim Ultimate lately. Really enjoying both, even if some of Tropico 6’s missions are a bit poorly designed lol

ray1992xd, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th

Started playing War Thunder again this week. I was a fan of the Air Warrior and James Attack Squadron games all my life and it is very good!

Agent_Karyo, do games w Day 263 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing
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Enjoy it while you can, it’s going to be shut down by Nintendo soon, with private server users being assaulted by special forces and then sent to North Korean concentration camps (special agreement between NK and Nintendo to uphold “IP rights”).

Hyunta, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th

I’m discovering the Mass Effect trilogy 2 times a week before remote work. That’s a nice way to begin the day ☺️ Also spreading some Democracy with friends (Helldivers 2 obviously).

TabbsTheBat, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th
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I’ve been playing far cry 2 mostly :3

With a sprinkling of red eclipse matches

Megaman_EXE,

Far Cry 2 has the best fire and physics in the series, in my opinion. Aside from the constant guard pestering, it’s my favorite one.

TabbsTheBat,
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My favourite one too :3… but ye the constant enemy checkpoints do me in

justsquigglez, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th
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My apartment got flooded recently so I don’t have access to my computer for now, so I booted up RetroArch on my phone with a Razer Kishi and started playing Pokemon Unbound, a pretty neat rom-hack.

I’m only at the 3rd gym leader right now though, but I’ve been passing time in-game by making sure to name every single pokemon I catch.

Telorand, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th

I started Remember Me, but the camera is complete ass. I played it at 240Hz, but it bounced around so much, I got motion sickness.

I’m going to give it another try with a controller and at 60Hz, but if it’s still sickness-inducing, I’ma have to drop it.

JigglySackles, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

It’s tricky because I have things that just don’t translate well to linux, or become considerably more expensive or time consuming to manage / deal with. Linux has a lot to offer and a lot of great. But I’m just going to keep running an out of date OS until I can switch.

CeeBee_Eh,

What kind of things are holding you back?

JigglySackles,

I don’t want to get into a big debate on it so if you are just curious and have a couple suggestions I’m down to talk about it. But I’m tired of people telling me that my reasoning isn’t good enough for them. Like, great, thanks, glad you can be happy with it, but we aren’t the same person. So I’d prefer to avoid any conversation where I’m just told to suck it up and deal with something. I am working on finding alternatives but all the ones I’ve come across so far are coming up short in a way that’s non negotiable.

My biggest one is my O365 bundle with office apps, oneNote, and OneDrive.

I am going to be trying out libreoffice and OpenOffice this year to see if I can replace word and excel. Last time I tried they weren’t there for me.

OneNote is my second most vital. I’m looking at Notesnook at the moment but I’m really not enthused by a monthly price or the idea of self-hosting in a docker container. I’ve hated most note apps and OneNote was the only one I’ve clicked with so far. I refuse to touch markdown so that kills a lot of them. I’m taking notes with minor edits, and I refuse to add markdown to the process just to do that. I also will not be ok with a webapp. I don’t like webapps in general.

OneDrive is probably my most vital. I have 1TB for me and 1TB each for 5 family accounts. So 6TB total. And I definitely use the space. On top of that I rely heavily on its integration to the file explorer and the mfa locked personal vault section. I don’t want to deal with a web interface or separate app, outside of an authentication hook for the vault, just to access storage.

Outside of the 365 bundle, it’s mostly running dedicated game servers that have no Linux option. And that’s it I believe. Certainly the most impactful applications. I think most other things I run, I can find acceptable alternatives to or can run in wine or something similar without major issue.

CeeBee_Eh,

I wasn’t going to berate you or anything. I was genuinely curious.

I am going to be trying out libreoffice and OpenOffice

LibreOffice is great. I use it on my work system at a medium to larger sized company (every single other person uses o365). I haven’t heard anyone complain yet about doc comparability and I haven’t had any issues myself.

Stay away from OpenOffice. It’s practically a dead product. When Oracle bought OpenOffice, the community forked the project which became LibreOffice. LibreOffice is where all the development and community focus and effort has gone since.

OneNote is my second most vital

I don’t have any recommendations here. I’ve never really found a “perfect” solution for this. Currently I use a few different solutions, but it’s all centred around markdown, so they’re all interchangeable.

OneDrive is probably my most vital.

I personally wouldn’t touch OneDrive with a hundred meter pole. MS does so much screwing around with your data that you can never be sure if the data stored is what you uploaded. They’ve been known to just up and delete files they scan and think is malicious, even if it’s a false positive. Then they’re known to scan all your documents for everything, including potential passwords, then use those passwords to open password-protected files and then scan them also.

Then there’s the situation from a year or so ago where they automatically switched everyone’s documents folder to a “cloud first” folder, where they just auto-uploaded everyone’s local files, deleted the local copies, and did it all without user consent or even informing users. And this resulted in all kinds of wild crap like people not having access to their documents because they were offline and were expecting local files. Then some people had their metered data connection getting maxed out. While others couldn’t even modify their files or even save a file to their “My Documents” folder because the default storage allocation was far less than the total data of their local files. So effectively the data was held for ransom.

it’s mostly running dedicated game servers that have no Linux option.

Most newer games that you can run your own dedicated server will almost certainly have a Linux option, which suggests you might taking about older games, in which case something like Lutris (Wine) might be an option.

But are you hosting these game servers on your desktop?

JigglySackles,

Yeah I know OneDrive is a bad option anymore. I’m definitely looking for options there but nothing is coming close so far. Hardest part is space but each requirement presents an issue.

Thanks for telling me about openoffice, looking at things i think i meamt Only Office. Any opinions there? I’m not keen on the AI push but it also seems optional. Thanks for the positive endorsement for Libre being compatible in an office setting. Looks like they have a good dark mode too which I’m very happy about. I love having a black background to write against and has stopped me from adopting things in the past. I can’t do white backed apps anymore. They hurt lol

The hosting is on my old desktop which is running server 2016. I’d like to replace the OS on it too. I don’t keep the box online so I’m not keen on using it for anything other than game servers.

Appreciate you not going aggro on me over it. Lots of times I mention not being quite there for migrating it gets into this really aggravating back and forth where someone aggressively pushes Linux at me and doesn’t like that I’m not instantly on board or that I have reasons they don’t like. 🙄

CeeBee_Eh,

looking at things i think i meamt Only Office. Any opinions there?

If I remember correctly, Only Office uses LibreOffice as its core and then adds or changes default stuff. I might be wrong about that. But ultimately I hear positive things about Only Office.

The hosting is on my old desktop which is running server 2016. I’d like to replace the OS on it too. I don’t keep the box online so I’m not keen on using it for anything other than game servers.

Sounds like a perfect situation for loading something like Proxmox and then visualizing the Windows Server 2016 instance. You would basically have the exact same functionality but with way more options like cloning and backing up the server.

Appreciate you not going aggro on me over it.

No worries at all. I think the automatic defensiveness from Linux people comes from old misconceptions being repeated often. Or sometimes it comes from how something is read and interpreted. Someone might say “I can’t switch because I need XYZ”, to which a very literal response is “you can use ABC which does the same thing, so you can switch”. When what the first person meant is "I can’t switch because I prefer XYZ", which is a completely valid reason.

JigglySackles,

Right on, I’ll have to check out proxmox, i don’t have any experience with it yet. That’d be dope to switch at least one computer over to something linix based.

darthelmet, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I got a new PC recently so unfortunately I am now on Windows 11. I’ve been wanting to make the swap to Linux but I can’t really make a clean break because at least some of the games I play a lot won’t work on Linux. I do think I’m gonna try to set up another hard drive with Linux on it to try to slowly start learning it and ideally move over anything that I can over there eventually and just keep the windows drive for those few games.

Does anyone have any recommendations related to that? Distro for gaming/ease of use? What’s the best option for setting up the dual boot? Anything I wouldn’t have thought of that’s relevant?

Zwrt,

What games are they?

One of the reasons i am sticking with Arch is because steamdeck os is build on it, whats good enough to game for valve is good enough for me.

I have both Arch and my old windows install on separate m.2 ssds. By default i log into the arch one which uses the windows ssd as a game installation drive.

This way when i do have to use windows for some game modding or testing, i can easily access and sometimes run the games from there.

darthelmet,

There’s a spattering of steam games that don’t list Linux support. Probably the ones I play the most are Deep Rock Galactic and Last Epoch. Outside of Steam I play TFT a lot, which doesn’t work on Linux since they added the anti-cheat software.

Zwrt,

Those first two are reported to work incredibly well using proton compatibility on steam. Proton is not the same as native support, which is why its not mentioned in any official game Information but it is native to steam. (Also works in heroic and litrus for gog/epic/other)

A platinum (community) rating is as high as it gets, may as well be native or better then on windows.

www.protondb.com/app/548430

www.protondb.com/app/899770

For TFT i found they use the same anti cheat as some other games. Used to work before, no longer does now but with dual boot all your current stuff is just a minute away (windows updates not included)

darthelmet,

Cool. Didn’t know about that site. Thanks.

Kurallier,
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If you’re a tech savvy person then I’d recomend Arch, but if you’d prefer a more streamlined approach then Baazite, PopOs, and Mint are all good starting points. As for dual booting, no matter which distro of linux you use you’ll use something called GRUB. The tl;dr of grub is that it’ll let you select which operating system you want to boot into when you boot up your pc

Buddahriffic,

Just in case you are thinking this like I used to, don’t go by “unplayable on steam deck” to determine what games you won’t be able to play on a Linux desktop. While those games include incompatible with Linux games, they also include ones that the deck hardware can’t handle at a decent framerate but otherwise play fine on Linux.

darthelmet,

Oh I was looking at system requirements on the store page. Is that accurate?

MoistOwlette,

no. you can play a crap load of “windows only” games on linux. the trick is to enable steam play in steam settings and use community versions of proton. works like a charm

racketlauncher831,

Since your computer is running Windows 11 already, I would recommend you look for a Linux distro without considering if it’s gaming-friendly. Linux is great for certain productivity tasks.

For dualbooting, most official Linux installation guides offer detailed steps for that. Grub (the boot management program) is well tested and widely used.

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