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Tango, do gaming w Pirating games you own?
@Tango@lemmy.ml avatar

I do it all the time, mostly because of the DRM shenanigans you mentioned.

Also ripping ROMs from consoles is usually a pain in the ass compared to just downloading them, so I always pirate those, even if I own the game.

Blizzard, do piracy w Ad blocking on android

You wouldn’t be able to use AdGuard properly with Opera anyway because Opera don’t accept user certificates (issued by AdGuard or AdAway) so it wouldn’t filter https traffic.

Try Vivaldi, amazing browser, built-in adblocker. Hopefully will be better than Opera’s. Personally haven’t tested it as I’m using said AdGuard which Vivaldi has no problem with - one of the reason I moved from Opera to Vivaldi.

Or simply change DNS to AdGuard.

Rentlar, do gaming w Pirating games you own?

Is it piracy to do that? I’d argue no.

Is it illegal? Possibly, but it’s a grey area and it all depends on your country whether it breaks the law.

(I am not a lawyer so take this as an armchair opinion at most) In Canada, you are allowed to do “format conversion” of media for personal and archival use. So even if on the label it says “Copying this tape is a crime”, making a copy to replace an older tape nearing the end of its life (implying you don’t intend to use it), converting it to CD or digital file format is allowed in order to play the media in respective devices built for the formats. So it’s arguable that conversions/changes to be compatible with Linux or a low-disk space computer could fall under this, for a game which you have a license/genuine copy.

The caveat is that in Canada breaking or circumventing “digital locks” is strictly against the law. The overall definition of what constitutes a digital lock is (to me) very broad and vague. So DRM-removal would arguably fall under digital lock circumvention, but other cases would be less clear.

Legislation is in the House of Commons right now (Bill C-244) to better define in what cases circumvention of locks would be permitted for fair and reasonable use of a product.

dmalteseknight,
@dmalteseknight@programming.dev avatar

If I’m not mistaken with digital download games you are paying to lease them rather than buying them outright. So technically you don’t own the game, you are just borrowing it. This would make pirating the same game you bought more of an illegal act.

Rentlar,

(Again I’m not an expert) With the Steam Subscriber Agreement it’s effectively a purchase of a perpetual/indefinite license to non-commercial use of a game. But purchasing a DVD is, arguably, the same thing, you are given indefinite license to view the video non-commercially in a home setting. What difference does it make between a game on your hard drive and a movie on a disc?

By my moral standard, games with Steamworks bypassed by something like Goldberg is functionally equivalent to DVD decryption. It’s my opinion that the continued access to social and internet connected features like Friends list, Workshop, Matchmaking, Redownloading games, Cloud Save Backups is contingent on accepting and adhering to your agreement with Valve and/or the server hosting the matchmacking service. That’s why I’m very much against always online type of DRMs for single player games.

Imagine having a pool in your backyard, but the pool installers have to permit and supervise you while you use it. For a public pool it would make sense to be supervised for everyone’s safety to ensure no one’s messing around, but for your own pool it doesn’t.

Fartmaster, do gaming w [Subnautica] Do not fire your propulsion Cannon at your cyclops if you have lockers on the interior walls...!

I’m glad you saved. Keeping note for when I finally get the rest of the fragments 😭

reric88,
@reric88@beehaw.org avatar

Don’t forget to save regularly! Because it was a glitch that happened to me yesterday which caused me to start saving every 30 minutes or so.

So yesterday I was building a base from the surface down to a couple stalkers (to farm teeth). It was really simple; and observation room connected to a T with a door, and vertical connectors going to the surface to an I corridor with a solar panel for air.

Well, I was curious and started to build out of the water, was 3 pieces high, and the game just froze after I placed a room at the top. I play on switch, so I just put it to sleep without saving when I’m done sometimes. So I had lost hours of progress and farming stuff.

So be sure to save often!

Fartmaster,

Aaaaaa that’s terrible!! Haha I was just thinking of building out of the water today, glad I didn’t 😭 it’s so immersive I always forget to save.

dawnerd, do gaming w Pirating games you own?
@dawnerd@lemm.ee avatar

I’m fine with it, wasn’t fallout 3 on GOG at some point? You can download those fairly safely. I don’t see it as piracy if you already own the game or a license to the game.

loops, do gaming w Pirating games you own?

DOOM 2016 didn’t work on Linux duo to the DRM being incompatible with proton.

What’s really stupid about that is the devs don’t have to do any extra work to make it compatible, all they have to do is check a box saying they’d like it to work with proton.

EmDash, do gaming w Pirating games you own?

My understanding is that this is illegal under US law. It is, however, completely ethical.

belated_frog_pants,

Slavery used to be legal under US law. Breaking unjust laws is praxis and human

bblfrnz,

I’m not from the US (and lots of people here either), so, we just don’t give a damn about the US law.

artic,

i really dont about the law regardless of country

Kekzkrieger, do piracy w Ad blocking on android
@Kekzkrieger@feddit.de avatar

Wait since when is firefox considered slow ? For me the speed is decent i dont have a 1000$ phone so i dont expect it to be as fast as on my pc

bjoern_tantau, do gaming w Pirating games you own?
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I often pirate old games I own because I’m too lazy to go find the disc. Although at least for Gothic I went to find my old disc anyways because the version I downloaded was missing the In Extremo concert.

And I pirated Sims 4 because of some DRM stuff, can’t remember the exact issue. But let that sink in, I had to pirate a game that is literally free.

Rentlar, (edited ) do gaming w Pirating games you own?

(See my Beehaw comment for the full detail)

Is it piracy to do that? I’d argue no.

Is it illegal? Possibly, but it’s a grey area and it all depends on your country whether it breaks the law.

PenguinTD, do gaming w Pirating games you own?

Depending which country you lived in, there is legal consequence for getting stuff from unauthorized source, there are a couple ways to work around your data cap.

Legally:

  1. get a external USB3 SSD portable
  2. download using internet not capped, ie. your friend or library, mall, etc(remember to limit the data rate so you blend into ambient youtube/streaming traffic) Referencen: Scrolldown for a chart and use 720p/1080p as your rate limit
  3. hook up back to your PC and move the game to different local SSD folder.

Shady, really not recommended because of point 3:

  1. look up your local law regarding P2P like torrent AND VPN. (well, not every country consider VPN legal.)
  2. Make sure you know how internet works, protect yourself/identity. Pick a good VPN provider, make sure they have their own or use good privacy policy DNS, pick a good torrent client that supports magnet link and encryption and choose “forced” option. (means you don’t download/upload to client that have encryption turned off. ) And set you seeding cap, (I don’t blame you if you choose to not seed cause data cap is real.)
  3. Last but not least, pirated game, like any pirated softwares, are exposing you to malware/virus/randomware, etc. They can hide in any possible files you downloaded cause you don’t know what else they touched this entire thing to work. So sandbox your environment or playing on low overhead VMs might be necessary.

And, when you can, move somewhere that have good ISP that have no data cap.

Doods,

As someone who has pirated many games, and who lives in a 3rd world country that barely cares about most minor physical crimes, I am not worried in the slightest.

everything after this point is closer to a rant and unrelated.

minor includes, but isn’t limited to: corruption, driving opposite side, hitting someone with your car as long as they don’t get seriously hurt (It happened in front of me once and it was kinda funny to be honest, the man got hit and kinda slept on the hood), damaging public property, blocking the sidewalks with your shop, Using a drill to draw a heart on the middle of the street to celebrate your marriage, blasting music hearable 3 blocks away several hours a day, and 12-year-olds driving cars

Piracy is 100% unpunishable where I live. (also atleast 90% of the population doesn’t know that software - aside of no-body-uses Google play apps - costs money, including Windows 7 and office 2010*)

*This is why I cannot share .odt Libre Office files.

EvaUnit02, do gaming w Pirating games you own?
@EvaUnit02@kbin.social avatar

Just to try the stave off an inquisition against multi-lingual support, the extreme filesize isn't because you're downloading different "language packs". The extreme filesize is because, for whatever reason, they decided to package up five entirely seperate copies of the game in five different languages. You are, in fact, downloading Fallout 3 in its entirety five times.

Doods,

This is believeable as tomb raider only went from 12 to 20 something, and FFXIII changes cutscenes so mouths match spoken language, even though there’s only Japanese and English.

OboTheHobo, do gaming w Pirating games you own?

The only argument for piracy being bad is that it is stealing because they lost a sale they would have otherwise gotten. You already bought the game. Therefore, there is no lost sale. There’s not a single moral argument against it now.

That being said, your ISP can’t tell the difference, so make sure you use a VPN (especially if torrenting)

sneezycat,
@sneezycat@sopuli.xyz avatar

And that argument is BS anyway, because there’s no such thing as “potential profit” even though companies say there is.

When I pirated the most games I had no money. If I didn’t pirate it, I’d go play on the street or whatever lol. Not going to buy what you literally can’t.

Same goes for denuvo and the “always online” for single player games crap. I’m not buying any games using those on principle.

OboTheHobo,

I don’t disagree, I brought it up just because it’s the only argument against piracy that holds any merit at all )even if little) and is, in this case, completely irrelevant anyway.

OboTheHobo,

I don’t disagree, I only brought it up because it’s the only argument that holds any merit (even if little) and is made irrelevant in this case.

MoogleMaestro,
@MoogleMaestro@kbin.social avatar

People say use a vpn, but it seems to me like most vpns don't allow torrenting.

OboTheHobo,

As far as I know ow most paid VPNs allow it, a lot of free ones don’t. I can say from experience that Windscribe allows torrenting, although there is a 10gb limit per month on free accounts (there is a way to get around that tho)

tunetardis, do gaming w Pirating games you own?

I hate capped internet accounts. As the dad, I’d have to police the kids especially not to blow the monthly cap, and eventually I switched to a lower bandwidth but unlimited option and there was finally peace in the family.

SnowBunting,

How much more did that cost? And did the kids notice the drop in bandwidth?

tunetardis,

I don’t remember it costing much more and the kids seemed relieved to not incur my wrath on a monthly basis. And not long after, my ISP increased the speeds on all accounts, so it more or less got us back to where we had been anyway.

Incidentally, if you’ve been with a particular ISP for years, it’s worth talking to a person when you change your account. They may have some discretionary power to give you say an introductory rate on a better plan to reward your loyalty?

SnowBunting,

Really? Thank you for the in person tip. I’ll try that the next time I go in.

liminis, do gaming w Pirating games you own?

Even if you’re excessively concerned with morality and what people think of you, the only people realistically going to kick up a fuss about “pirating” games one already owns are Nintendo’s lawyers.

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