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BigVault, do games w What games have you been playing recently
@BigVault@kbin.social avatar

Started playing Starfield and it really made me want to revisit fallout 4, I’m now deep back into a new play through of Fo4 with 22 hours played in the last 2 weeks. Really enjoying it again.

Anyway, another settlement needs my help….

Stalinwolf, do games w What games have you been playing recently
@Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca avatar

Have about 200 hours of Valheim logged with my wife. I’m honestly feeling burned out, but she’s still into it, so I’m trying my best to remain interested. I love this game, but we’ve been playing of so much.

JeepartN,

Thats nice though! I wish i could play it longer aswell but my brain just gives up once the final boss is beaten

Que,

I loved it until I didn’t.

Don’t remember how far I got, maybe 2/3 of the biomes, then I burned out and got bored. That was a while back, and flattening the land was really glitchy. I’d have an area perfectly flattened and ready to commence building, save it all down, come back next day, and it’d all gone to shit again. I got sick of trying. It became more of a grind just to get back to my last save point than I wanted, and gave up on it.

Did it ever get a full release?

JeepartN,

I played it last year right before mistlands

cyberpunk007,

Same but they were there, there was just no enemies it anything

Lightsong, do games w What games have you been playing recently

Zelda Wind Maker, on WiiU sadly. My gf got this console and game, so I just wanna beat it and move onto another Zelda games.

I got phantam, skyward, botw. Saving botw for last. I beat oot and mm back in the days, and just beat twilight.

caseofthematts,

I know a lot of people like them, but you just listed a lot of my least favourite Zelda games. Wind Waker (before the remake, I heard there were a lot of QoL changes that I had issue with from the original?), Phantom Hourglass and Skyward Sword. I would’ve beat my head against a desk if you said Spirit Tracks.

But people do enjoy these, so I hope you like them much more than I did.

Lightsong,

Yeah so far I’m not fan of it. Plus playing on WiiU pad sucks.

Neon,

Holy shit, i fucking LOVE Wind Maker. Absolutely amazing game!

The Graphics as well! So unbelievably cute! I spent so many hours in it!

CrayonRosary,

That’s so funny because that’s one of my favorite Zelda games, and one of my favorite consoles. The Wii U pad was such a dream to play on.

vsh, do games w Weekly what have you been playing discussion - week of October, 9, 2023

Shadows of doubt! That game unlocked some detective instinct deep inside of me.

Renacles, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.

Are the missions long at least or is it something like 6 hours total?

cradac,

Check out howlongtobeat. It takes about 20 hours to complete main + side content. OP is just a really salty poster - take a look at his comment history.

averagedrunk,

So I went and looked. OP seems like a very unhappy individual. I found traces of the below plus a lot of the “whiney entitled gamer” archetype. I sure hope they find happiness someday.

It’s Easy so it Sucks

It’s Short so it Sucks

Unpleasable Fanbase

“Stop Having Fun” Guys

apolinariomabussy,
@apolinariomabussy@lemmy.calvss.com avatar

TIL tvtropes has those tropes. I only knew about the Broken Base page. I am so keeping those for reference.

averagedrunk,

My favorite is Stop Having Fun, Guys. Broken Base hits too close to home for too many franchises I enjoy.

lemillionsocks,
@lemillionsocks@beehaw.org avatar

Lol a new monthly issue of a comic can cost about $4-$6, breakfast at a cheap diner can get $10-$20, a 2 hour movie can be $20+, and of course there are $60 video games selling that are less than 20 hours long. Its really funny how undervalued videogame entertainment is.

scrubbles, (edited )
!deleted6348 avatar

I like “cost per hour” which is what you’re getting at.

  • Movie at the theater: $16 total.
    • $8/hr
  • drinks with friends, at 1 drink an hour for 4 hours
    • $7/hr
  • Dinner out, decent restaurant 40/person
    • 20/hr
  • Cyberpunk dlc, $30, 20 hrs to beat
    • $1.50/hr

Yeah I’d say that’s a pretty good entertainment value per hour compared to other leisurely activities for me. I apply this to most entertainment things and it does help. I find comparing things to going to the movies is the best, if it’s more per hour than a movie in a theater than no it’s probably not worth it. Those stupid $50 slingshot rides? Nah.

sederx,

50% fetch quests. If you use the teleport points you can finish this in half a day

Skipping the dialogues of course,which are dogshit acting anyway.

MaxPower,
@MaxPower@feddit.de avatar

50% fetch quests

I have just played it through. What you are saying is 100% incorrect.

sederx,

Half the quest are literally go there talk to this person and come back or some variation of it.

aksdb,

So … like real-life? You can abstract everything to the point that it looks trivial.

sederx,

are you for real? XD the sidequests are boring, that is not ok since its the main content of a 30 bucks game

aksdb,

That’s subjective. I play through the game the third time currently and still enjoy it.

sederx,

then say " i personally liked it because of X" what was that stuff about real life is boring? XD

aksdb,

I criticized your chosen abstraction. “go there talk to somebody and come back” is basically the definition of most interactions. That describes “going shopping”, “going to work”, “going to a customer” and in extension describes almost every quest in every game. That discriminates nothing of value.

sederx,

ok

Exec,
@Exec@pawb.social avatar

Skipping the dialogues of course

Why are you skipping the dialogue in an RPG?

sederx,

As I said,because the acting is dogshit. I played bg3,can’t go back to this shit

Exec,
@Exec@pawb.social avatar

Okay, so you basically reduce the game’s content because you nullify major sections due you not liking it then claim it doesn’t exist? In the end all RPGs are based on the variations “talk to someone” with action being the second thing. I wish you don’t ever start playing Final Fantasy 14 which has like 60% of the content are cutscenes and dialogue.

sederx,

If they are good I don’t mind

kebabslob,

RPG

Where?

Sharpiemarker,

How do you define a role playing game?

You’re playing as a person in an alternate reality.

You have character stats and builds.

Someone else is in control of the overarching narrative (you can’t just decide to become a plumber for example).

kebabslob,

Stats matter, role matters. RPG ended once nomad, corpo, and the third thing converged onto the linear story

Don_alForno,

Stat blocks don’t make an RPG.

Part of the definition is that you in fact play a role. This means making decisions from their perspective as if you were them and their world was your reality. Any game that doesn’t allow you to make informed, meaningful decisions isn’t actually a role playing game.

Naturally, video games can’t really give you total freedom in that regard, as any option you can pick needs to be anticipated and coded by the developer. But there are candidates that fit the requirement somewhat more and those that definitely don’t.

Cyberpunk, while being a fun experience, doesn’t really give you a lot of meaningful choices, at least not in the bigger quests, especially not the main plot. Most often different dialogue choices only lead to slightly different answers and the same outcome. You can’t decide to rat Panam out to Militech when stealing the tank for example. You’re not really playing the role of V, you’re watching their story play out and maybe deciding what to do first and last.

CDPR have their own inhouse example of a better RPG to compare against.

kux,
@kux@kbin.social avatar

tbf the fast-forwarding way you can skip dialogue and just read the subtitles without missing anything is one of the best things introduced in this game

Stillhart,

Are you fucking kidding? You should put this in your OP so everyone knows to completely disregard your post. You skip all the dialogue in an RPG and then complain that it’s too short and the missions are just fetch quests?

This has to be a troll post…

sederx,

I wouldn’t skip it if it was good,I read of course but I’m not gonna listen to bad acting.

ashamam,
@ashamam@kbin.social avatar

A very successful troll post as well. Would have thought people were smarter than that these days, especially in the fediverse.

BlinkerFluid, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.
@BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one avatar

Waiting until I can get both in a “definitive edition” for $20 on sale.

sederx,

The irony is you could get a cp2077 CD key day one for 20 dollars…

Hdcase,

How is that ironic?

Bratwurstboy, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.

Who asked?

sederx,

Nobody? In just telling people to save their cash.

What’s wrong with you?

madkarlsson,

We get it, you are disappointed. But if you are concerned about saving cash you should’ve probably waited to buy it yourself this close to release.

But it doesn’t objectively suck, it builds on the world, and does so decently. If you liked it before you are probably going to like this DLC.

sederx,

1 didnt buy it

2 i like the base game, this dlc is a joke for this kind of money. this is a 9.99 dlc at best

Bratwurstboy,

What’s wrong with you ? Go enjoy that steam free system of yours. I hope you get over the emotional pain caused by a failed cloud sync.

sederx,

my man seek help. like professional help. i have no idea how coud i upset you like this…

Bratwurstboy,

You’re the one ranting about shit for no reason lmao

sederx,

you dont understand forums do you?

did somebody force you to reply to this post? is somebody forcing you to be a cunt? did somebody force you to check my history and get butthgurt because i dont like the same stuff you do?

no, you took each of those choices and then acted like i took a shit in your porch.

voluntarily seeking things you dont like is a problem you should discuss with a professional.

best of luck, im gonna block you now for your own good.

Shalakushka,
@Shalakushka@kbin.social avatar

We will make sure you asked before posting anything else, very sorry

realitista, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.

I’m one ahead of you. I bought cyberpunk on sale and only played it for about 2 hours.

sederx,

you should finish it i think the main game is pretty good

NegativeLookBehind, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

You’re gonna hurt a lot of CDPR Fanboys’ feelings with this post.

sederx,

and i didnt even mention the bugs…

MaxPower, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.
@MaxPower@feddit.de avatar

What’s the point of your post? You think it sucks and regret buying and playing it, OK.

I however enjoyed it very much and I wish CDPR would chuck out more expansions. Now what?

And yes, there are bugs. Show me a game of this scale that does not have bugs. At least it’s not a shit show like CP2077 at release date

Shalakushka,
@Shalakushka@kbin.social avatar

You know you could also make a post about how much you like it, right? The world would not end. A post being on the gaming board doesn't mean it's the objective truth, it's a forum. Both of your posts could be up at the same time, even!

Also it's hilarious to go "at least it's not buggy like the game this expansion is literally for"

sederx,

I don’t regret buying it since I didn’t.

That’s your opinion and it’s fine.

I cant remember last AAA game I played that required me to reload the game to get rid of bugs or getting stuck in my own vehicle,I don’t think it’s acceptable.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Did you play the dlc?

sederx,

What do you think?

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

No?

sederx,

well you had 50:50 … yes i finished it before posting

Stillhart,

You realize that the 2.0 update that introduced all those new bugs is unrelated to the DLC right? Everyone got that update and those bugs regardless of whether they paid for the DLC.

sederx,

Not sure it changes anything

Stillhart,

Considering bugs are the main meat of your post, it seems like it should.

sederx,

Nah that’s an just an edit I made later

ampersandrew, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Nah, I'll probably buy it based off of all the other information that's out there for it. There's no shortage of it.

sederx,

That’s your right!

Kaldo, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

I disagree, with or without taking bugs into consideration. It was a great experience and if you liked the base game you'll probably like the expansion too, if you didn't like the base game then you won't.

sederx,

thats the thing i didnt hate it. i like the base game. this is really just more of the same, i just dont think its good value for 30 bucks.

MaxPower,
@MaxPower@feddit.de avatar

i just dont think its good value for 30 bucks

OK that’s your opinion. If you are poor and/or from a low income country that’s even understandable.

OTOH, 3 million people thought otherwise and bought it. Wake me up when you have made a game and an expansion for it for 3 people, let’s see how buggy those are. I will take the time to online shit-talk about those, too!

Bells,

What a shit take lmao

sederx,

I cant even…

Shalakushka,
@Shalakushka@kbin.social avatar

You don't like a AAA game? Make ur own AAA game lmao gotem

ModsAreCopsACAB,

How is your upvote ratio positive dude

sederx,

tells you anything you need to know about this sub i guess…

tombuben,

Beehaw doesn’t have downvotes enabled. We try to be positive here.

amju_wolf,
@amju_wolf@pawb.social avatar

That sounds really stupid.

wahming,

I don’t have a bone in this fight, but that’s a really dumb take. Crapware like FIFA sells millions of copies, by your logic they’re amazing shit.

ChaoticEntropy,
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

What is worth 30 dollars to you…? You said you’d have paid 15 for this, which is absurdly low in this day and age. A small expansion pack in the early 2000s would have cost more than that.

You want double the content in this DLC for 30?

sederx,

I think that 20 side missions and a bit more of story would have made this more acceptable. The base game is what 60 side missions for 60 bucks? Why should you get less value from this? Most of the work was already done

ChaoticEntropy,
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

What a bizarrely corporate measure of quality this is… this is how you end up with mile wide, inch deep grind fests that just ooze “value” by pure volume. I think expecting this amount of content for $15 at this point just means that you can expect no content at all, because it won’t be commercially viable to keep all your dev teams spun up to work on it, along with patches.

Stillhart,

He probably loved the amount of “content” in Starfield.

sederx,

I didn’t.

sederx,

These 10 side quests are not exactly great. They are worse than the base game and you get a pointless choice at the end of each

Phegan, do games w What games have you been playing recently

Factorio sucked me back in

ShitOnABrick,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

I’m considering giving factorio ago I think its on my steam wishlist I’ve heard of it from YouTube looks good

LievitoPadre,

Make sure to have enough time because you won’t see the sun for a while

herrvogel,

It’s one of those games that do a magic trick and make time go poof. Very deep, tons of things to do, and extremely moddable with a rich ecosystem. Something you can easily sink hundreds of hours into without even realizing it.

Excellent game overall.

dino, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.

Still the best action-rpg. :D

sederx,

Never argued against that

dino,

“just don’t buy it” sounds different, but I understand that you are just trying to stir some shit and don’t really care. :)

sederx,

im really not, people here are just looking to fight for some reason.

LoamImprovement, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.

I think it’s a fair criticism, not necessarily one I agree with, but the quantity of content available for the asking price certainly isn’t proportional to the base game, although it is quality content, bugs notwithstanding. I think maybe the only game that would come close to it on those terms would be Fallout: New Vegas.

I would hazard a guess that a large part of the pricetag probably isn’t just for the DLC though - It’s been three years since release and ostensibly the CP2077 dev team has been hard at work fixing the colossal fuckup the game was on launch day, and then some. There’s a lot of work that’s been put in to the systems overhaul in order to make the base game more functional and enjoyable, and I believe a lot closer to the original vision the team had before the marketing and hype (and death threats) nudged them to push out a rushed product, and all that’s getting packed in as a free update for a game that was probably underpriced at the typical $60 anchor point on release in 2020.

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