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sp3ctr4l, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)

Damn, that’s… quite the line up of Steam Deck related devs, shit.

Welp, I’m convinced.

PerfectDark,
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I got distracted when I started inviting people I know into the server, so…there will be more to come!

AceFuzzLord, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 27th

Tried getting the gyro on my Steam Deck to work with Dolphin, but no such luck. So I’m back to playing Pokemon Rejuvenation. I think the only other games I have played recently are Plants vs Zombies: Reflourished, Backpack Hero, and Fire Emblem Heroes.

Ashen44, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 27th

Recently started up a new terraria world, this time I’m doing the eternity mode from the Fargo’s Souls mod. It’s damn hard…

Kolanaki, (edited ) do gaming w Knock yourself out
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Most of my “PS5” games are actually PS4 games with extra features/enhancements when played on the PS5.

I own only 1 game that was built for and is only available on a PS5: Demon’s Souls. Which, other than Bloodborne, was the primary reason I got the console in the first place.

It doesn’t just sit around gathering dust, like some others have stated. Since my PC is getting old and increasingly more unsupported by newer games, if I pirate a thing/play a demo on PC and it runs poorly (and I also like it enough to want it), I’m more likely to get it on the console if it’s not a multiplayer game.

Infernal_pizza,
@Infernal_pizza@lemm.ee avatar

And wasn’t that a remaster of a PS3 game?

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

It’s a whole ass remake, so more than a remaster, but yes.

goatbeard, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 27th

I had a random urge to play civ iv, but I’m still too bad to beat the cheating AI. Almost finished with Return of the Obra Dinn now, that one is very unique

chloyster,

Damn whoever gifted you Obra Dinn has really good taste! Great game! 🙂

DannyBoy, do gaming w Knock yourself out

I don’t know a single person that has a PS5. Apparently they sold well, but to who?

zammy95,

Pretty much all of my friends have one lol. To each their own though

DannyBoy,

I didn’t mean it as an insult but a genuine question. I still play games online to this day with friends joining in on PS4 and Xbox One. I bought Stray when it came out on the PS4 and that was less than three years ago. And not ever seeing or hearing about anyone buying a PS5 it seems to me like the Xbox One/PS4 generation is still going today.

MrScottyTay,

I got one, I know 3 coworkers that have one. And I have at least 5 friends with one too.

I also have about half the amount of ps5 games that I have PS4 I think too. Physical at least anyway. I have more digital not counting PS+ Extra.

I’m also not a console only guy. I have a bazzite PC for a lot of games. But I prefer the big story ones to be played on my living room on my big 4k TV with my Dolby atmos setup. Plus every now and then you get an absolute gem like Astro Bot or the visual wonder if the Demon’s Souls remake (how have they not given Bloodborne the same treatment like what the heck)

tyfpgg,

I wasn’t going to buy it. But I’m a fan of Yoshi-P’s work, so when he released FFXVI on PS5, I bought the bundle. So far that’s the only game I’ve played and beat on PS5. I do use the PS5 to play some gacha games like Genshin Impact and Infinity Nikki (and previously Star Rail before dropping that).

ChronophobianQ, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 27th

Roots of Pacha. Great game. It’s like stardew valley, but you play as a member of a migrating hunter-gatherer tribe that finally settles down to discover farming and slowly starts building a village.

LandedGentry, (edited ) do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #12

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  • PerfectDark,
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    I’ve forced everyone I know to watch it, and I just barely hold myself back from constantly re-watching it! I adore how it covers the different eras of computing for the seasons. I wasn’t around for any of them, and I just love getting a glimpse at what it all looked like!

    Both imLinguin and Junk-Store’s couple finally gave in to my harassment to watch it - they all loved it. Gosh it’s a perfect show.

    If someone’s reading this and hasn’t yet watched, GO AND DO SO!!!

    ampersandrew, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #12
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m no professional, I just love gaming news

    Judging by how these posts are taken here, I think once you’re done vacationing, you could look into doing this professionally.

    It’s cool that Breath of Fire IV has that tag saying that the game was picked up due to the dream list, but I’ve got some concerns about what GOG will or won’t touch. Someone here on Lemmy pointed out correctly that these are always the PC versions of games in the Good Old Games program. Several of the games they’ve picked up recently are games that I only ever thought of as console games and didn’t know that they had PC versions. The problem with that is that up until approximately a few years into the life of the Xbox 360, it was quite common to have a PC version that didn’t resemble the console versions of the same title at all. For instance, the Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter games on PC have the same stories and voice lines, but the levels and gameplay mechanics are totally different. Spider-Man 2, based on the movie, is immensely important in video game history, but only the console version; the PC version is widely considered to be garbage. 007: Nightfire is on the dream list, but everyone there is sure to mention that the one people want is the console version. Anyway, I hope they can figure this out and start getting some classic console games saved just as well as the PC versions, and I hope that the PC versions they’re choosing aren’t compromised compared to the ones that are so fondly remembered.

    PerfectDark,
    @PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

    This comes up a little more often than I’d have expected actually!

    I’ve had people ask if I’m going to have my own site for these, or perhaps just host it elsewhere to make something like RSS easier. I’m not for now…I like the idea of supporting Lemmy and FOSS in my own small way. I like that my posts, as insignificant in the long run as they are, are just on just Lemmy. If that makes sense anyway.

    Also a small (well, maybe sizable) part of me feels quite awful thinking I just spot interesting projects and creations others create and then just write my own thoughts on them and…idk, it’s not my ‘own’ work?

    Something along those lines, in any case. Imposter syndrome, I’m sure. Thank you so much though for your thoughtful and sweet comment. I really appreciate it!

    Coelacanth,
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    I just spot interesting projects and creations others create and then just write my own thoughts on them

    Soo… journalism?

    In any case, do whatever makes you happy, whether remaining solely on here or creating your own thing from this like a website or blog. Your content is among the best on the platform and I hope you know how much we all appreciate you.

    array, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

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  • torrentialgrain,

    Yeah man they really saw this tariff stuff coming earlier than anyone else when they started developing the remaster 2-3 years ago.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    We both know tariffs have little to do with this game, but it was very possible to see them coming 2-3 years ago if you listened to that man speak.

    torrentialgrain,

    Donald Trump’s views on economics have not changed in decades and his tariffs are in line with what the guy has been publicly saying since the 80s.

    But yeah that’s not the point I was making.

    hildegarde,

    Its not a quick cash grab, the remaster was in development starting in 2021. This release had nothing to do with tarifs.

    SaltySalamander,

    Bethesda is a Microsoft company. Don't think there's any danger of the tariffs wiping out Microsoft.

    hildegarde,

    There is more of a danger of being wiped out by microsoft than anything else

    Makfreeman, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

    I personally don’t really pre order or set up prior expectations for games these days. No matter the company’s prior track record a game is only judged on its own, not because how good a previous game was. Oblivion is great because it is, In my opinion, better than Skyrim. It is dated by today’s standards. Heck starfield was dated as well. Even when elder scrolls vi comes out I don’t have any high expectations for it.

    Stovetop, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

    I think Bethesda has definitely fallen off in recent years, but I am a bit confused by the point this post is getting at. We learned at launch that Oblivion is a remaster, not a remake, and it’s just the original game running under the hood with a new coat of paint and some minor tweaks. And it’s a pretty high-effort remaster at that.

    I just think it’s a bad example to use of how the company isn’t getting better, when the point of the remaster was to change as little of the core game as possible. It’s as good now as it was back then but it’s still a 19-year-old game.

    Starfield is what should be killing everyone’s expectations of Elder Scrolls 6.

    MudMan, (edited )

    The remaster was also made externally, so whatever the point being made here is, it's weird twice over.

    clonedhuman, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games
    @clonedhuman@lemmy.world avatar

    Maybe they’re trying to get potential players of Elder Scrolls VI so hyped that they’ll still play the new game even if it’s sold ‘games as a service’ style

    in which case, fuck that

    scrubbles, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games
    !deleted6348 avatar

    Man the negativity. I’m so sick of gamers negativity. It’s not even a new game, it’s a remaster. you knew what the product was going to be. It’s oblivion. We all knew it was oblivion. If you don’t like oblivion, why did you buy it?!

    I swear to God if they changed it too much I’d be commenting here on a post about how they had no respect for the original. Then we wonder why “they never listen to gamers”. Because we bitch and moan about everything.

    Donebrach,
    @Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

    Just musing on the fact that Bethesda doesn’t care about making games and instead just cashes in on nostalgia. I also think their finance bros realized their upcoming big IP drop is going to be an objective POS and wanted to prime people’s expectations by re-releasing a 20 year old game with some lipstick on it.

    It would be neat if they hired some people who actually had innovative ideas about gameplay, visuals and stories to maybe make a neat new game within an existing or new IP, but they haven’t done that in literal decades so I think its pretty reasonable to not be incredibly excited about anything they are putting out or planning to put out in the future.

    torrentialgrain,

    Imagine if capital G Gamers actually enjoyed playing games instead of nonstop bitching on online forums.

    Donebrach,
    @Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

    the internet would fall silent.

    prole,

    As someone with no kids and a work/life balance that allows me to enjoy video games, I wonder how much of this vitriol comes from bitter millennials who are mad at the world because they don’t have time to play games anymore.

    peregrin5, (edited )
    @peregrin5@lemm.ee avatar

    Nah. The millennials would need to play and beat the game and then come to online forums to bitch. We don’t have that amount of free time.

    They are nearly always Zoomers and younger. (Or college kids and teenagers if I’m getting the generations wrong again)

    prole,

    Lol 9 times out of 10, they don’t actually play the games they whine about.

    killeronthecorner,
    @killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

    As a long time Bethesda game fan I agree with you on almost everything you’ve said about Bethesda… But the remaster is a terrible example of your points.

    The remaster does exactly what it says on the tin and they’ve been very upfront about how it was made and why it was made in the launch video.

    It’s hard to criticise them for cashing in on nostalgia when they’ve shown time and time again with Skyrim re-releases that do a fraction of what the Oblivion remaster does still sell like hot cakes.

    Nostalgia is at the core of their business model. That’s why they march Skyrim’s corpse out every two years like clockwork; that’s why they picked Fallout for a new franchise after ES; that’s, frankly, likely why Starfield sucks so much.

    halcyoncmdr,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s not even much of a remaster. They just slapped a coat of paint on it.

    The Gamebryo/Creation Engine is still there running the game, it just uses Unreal 5 for the graphical elements. And they updated some of the levelling to work more like Skyrim, because the Oblivion system sucked in comparison.

    It’s still the same 20 year old Oblivion under the hood.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but calling it a remaster is a bit disingenuous.

    psx_crab,

    What do you think “remaster” actually mean?

    halcyoncmdr,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    More than a coat of paint. They didn’t actually port the game to Unreal 5, they just used it to make the graphics look better. The modding community could have done this years ago if that’s all they wanted to do. Skyblivion is more of a remaster than this official one.

    With all of the resources of the original development and sources, I expect more than the modding community is capable of.

    psx_crab,

    Emm, no. If you build something from the ground up it’s called remake.(Demon Souls, the Resident Evil series) Remastered is taking the old game and put on a fresh paint of coat and give it some modern QOL so it’s much more accessible today.

    Skyblivion is closer to remake than remaster.

    Also i feels like you misunderstand why people like this game.

    halcyoncmdr,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    If you’re fine paying $50-60 for what amounts to a community graphical overhaul mod that’s fine. I expect more from an actual developer with access to the source code.

    A remaster should be releasing Oblivion with an updated engine and graphics, and bringing in some gameplay enhancements from newer games. Technically this meets those requirements, but only by the bare minimum and all of those can be achieved with community mods for free.

    A remake would be completely abandoning the decrepit Gamebryo/Creation Engine that’s clearly dragging all of their games down now, and has been for over a decade, and actually giving us something that doesn’t feel like it came out 20+ years ago.

    I love the Elder Scrolls, Oblivion is one of my favorite games of all time, and the only one I ever bothered to get every achievement for back on the 360. But I won’t accept a half assed remaster for nearly full price just because it’s what Bethesda wants to distract everyone from the fact that Elder Scrolls 6 isn’t coming out anytime soon and they couldn’t just release Skyrim for the 12th time.

    Don’t accept paying for mediocre products just because you’re desperate for content.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    The only real problem here is the price. It should’ve been more like $30.

    psx_crab,

    Ok.

    overload,

    You’re describing a remake, which isn’t what this remaster is. A remaster is literally what this is, just like Diablo 2 Resurrected a few years ago

    MellowYellow13,

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  • scrubbles,
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    They literally had a hour long stream explaining what they did, and then you could have watched any of the thousands of twitch streams showing it. There was zero reason that you should have bought this if you thought this. I knew exactly what I was buying, seems like pretty much everyone did.

    You are describing a remake. A remaster is a fresh coat of paint. Todd Howard said verbatim “This is not a remake” and then talked about his reasons why. You’re going on like they lied to you when they literally said everything you just complained about, and then you still bought it.

    ThunderclapSasquatch,

    That’s literally what remaster are, a new coat of paint

    Zagorath,
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    And they updated some of the levelling to work more like Skyrim, because the Oblivion system sucked in comparison

    Updated how exactly? Oblivion and Skyrim both have pretty serious flaws. I believe there are popular mods to fix the Oblivion system in a way that still feels like Oblivion, though it’s been a long time since I’ve read in to any of it.

    overload,

    100% agree. Pleasing Gamers™ is a Kafka trap.

    unused_user_name, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

    It might be nostalgia speaking, but I think the real issue is that a 20 year old game can actually be this good and popular. How can it be that it is more enjoyable than anything else I’ve bought over the last year (at least)? Doesn’t that say that game companies in general have dropped the ball on game design, focusing on graphics and money over content and gameplay? As I said, it might just be me stuck in my wonderfully comforting blanket of nostalgia…

    MudMan, (edited )

    I think it's almost definitely nostalgia speaking.

    Granted, by the point Oblivion was made I was the nostalgia guy talking about how Bethesda games kept getting smaller and less ambitious. Most people saying that then did so because they were coming from Morrowind. Not me, I am a proper dinosaur and I was just pissed that after Morrowind dropped everything interesting about Daggerfall to make a console game they just kept moving further in that direction.

    Was also not a fan of Fallout getting turned into Oblivion 40K instead of a proper turn-based CRPG.

    Which goes to show this conversation isn't new and gaming is old enoung now that it has gone in cycles.

    I mean, seriously, Daggerfall was continent-sized and was using procedural generation to make dungeons and build dialogue and quests and essentially reimagining how games could be made in ways that wouldn't resurface until what? No Man's Sky? Oblivion is bad Lord of the Rings. If anything it's the awkward middle child now, because man, the Imperial City in Oblivion feels hilariously tiny and basically deserted against modern RPGs. There are five people running loops and having canned conversations. Coming from Baldur's Gate 3 or Cyberpunk to this is... a bit of a shock.

    missingno,
    @missingno@fedia.io avatar

    "Why is an old game good?" feels like an odd question. It would be silly to ask that of any other medium, wouldn't it? The most beloved classics being beloved isn't an indictment of modern stuff, especially when cherry-picking the greatest hits and ignoring how many flops existed back then too.

    pennomi,

    Survivorship bias, essentially.

    TachyonTele,

    I can’t belive people play football. That game is old as hell!

    psx_crab,

    It hasn’t been updated since forever, can’t believe even pay to watch others play.

    Flickerby,

    Clair Obscur came out the same time and it’s probably the best RPG I’ve ever played, and I’ve played every noteworthy one in the last 40 years at least. GOTY at the LEAST.

    MummysLittleBloodSlut,

    You’re just buying the wrong games.

    Go play Split Fiction, Balatro, and Hades 2.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I hear this rhetoric a lot, which shows me that a ton of people have a much harder time than me finding the good stuff, even though there’s so much of it out there.

    Coelacanth,
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    I mean I am all for criticising creatively bankrupt mush like Ubisoft et al pushes out and Call of Duty 420: Black Ops 69 or FIFA or whatever but we can’t pretend there are literally no good games being released nowadays either. Just now we had a month with both Blue Prince and Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 being released within weeks of each other. BG3 and Alan Wake 2 releasing in the same year was just two years ago.

    There are plenty of not just good but great recent games.

    prole, (edited )

    How can it be that it is more enjoyable than anything else I’ve bought over the last year (at least)?

    Possibly because you’re buying the wrong games? Don’t get me wrong, I’ve got a massive nostalgia-on for Oblivion, and I picked up the Remaster, and it’s cool…

    But there have been a lot of great games so far this year. Just this month alone, Blue Prince and Expedition 33 have both been fantastic. Both better than the Oblivion remaster imo.

    The Indiana Jones game is cool. I haven’t played Split Fiction yet, but it looks really good as well. Just to name a few.

    Edit: More that I remembered: Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2. Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii. Wanderstop is pretty chill. Xenoblade Chronicles X was finally released on Switch (game map is like 5x the size of Skryim or something…). Atomfall. Lost Records: Bloom & Rage is pretty cool if you’re into that kind of thing.

    pulido,

    Great art is timeless.

    There are modern games that can compete, they’re just few and far between.

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