Imagine Little Mac training animation with his coach.
He trains by roaming the city, confronting street gangs, fleeing dangerous dogs and finding training rooms to recruit opponents to qualify for the real fights…
I’m old enough that I remember when 28FPS @ 320x200 was considered a target, and my vision isn’t as hot as it used to be. So long as I’m not noticing any obvious issues, I don’t really care enough to check.
@penquin oh! Well in that case I used to be a 1080p 60Hz monitor kinda guy, and about a year ago I had to upgrade to dual 1440p 165Hz monitors.
While I can definitely feel the difference, 60 FPS is barely noticeable, and even 30 FPS is acceptable.
I grew up with slower machines so sub-30 was fairly normal, even older consoles targeted 30 and faltered below that, so at this point I'll take anything above what's acceptable for film
So far, all my mentality/generation folks. <3
I just don’t care about FPS, as long as 25 or higher. Once you get to the 20ish, you start seeing the jitter.
@penquin like, I can tell the difference under 60, and I can tell it gets choppy under like, 40? But I probably don't make a comment about the "lag" or framerate dropping until it's below 20-30
100%. I can absolutely tell, but I just don’t care. I’m here for the fun. Playing God of war with my son and fighting all these bosses and getting into it and yelling is just way too much fun to worry about FPS.
@penquin sometimes it's even more exciting overcoming the FPS drops, especially when I can tell why it's happening and/or if it's only temporary/rare. I've definitely caused my fair share during some overly modded Doom setups
My monitor dynamically adjusts it’s refresh rate to match what my GPU is spitting out within reason. Anything above 40ish is fine, though competitive stuff does benefit from more. Below that even if my monitor is matching frame to fame I definitely notice.
I know OP has a point that they weren’t asking your opinion on games, but I really like your stance of demanding performance from the game devs especially on older hardware. There is a culture of "must have newest hardware to run everything maxed " that’s just dumb consumerism.
When I play it’s usually solo games, and I never had an issue with 20fps+ . If performance drops below that, I’m visually ok with 16fps, but usually at that range my system is struggling with game mechanics and that’s the deal breaker for me
I feel like 20 FPS would be OK for me if I had absolutely no ability to get at least a 25. But 15? 16? That’s like very jittery. I remember that happening on Alan wake 2 and it was playable, but to be honest I was kind of annoyed with it.
If it’s not 60 or higher, I can’t stand it. But it has to be consistent. Even constant fluctuations between 120-140 are felt even if not necessarily seen. I generally just try to get 60 since my display is 60hz. What’s annoying is that I could be doing 1440p at 60 with my specs, but for some reason setting the display to that specific resolution locks it to 30hz.
The display is 4k, and has 60hz available at 4k and every other resolution. My PC can’t handle 4k @ 60 for most things, though.
There’s a reason I only upgraded to a 2k monitor and not 4k, I’m not willing to sacrifice that much performance to just play at a higher resolution, 25 fps is way too low for me. 108 fps is what I play Fallout New Vegas at (to avoid physics behaving too weirdly) and I think that’s fine. I think I’ve gone down to 90 and been somewhat ok with that, but anything below that is no bueno.
Non-fps games I’ll cap lower, like 72 fps for a civilization game is perfectly fine.
But if you want beautiful games like God of War (or do you mean gears of war?) and are fine with a lower framerate, that makes sense to me.
I like how us humans have totally different likes and dislikes. I 100% understand you and will never judge you. You like what you like and that’s very good. I mean God of war, yes. It’s freaking gorgeous.
Maybe it’s because I grew up with 60hz CRT monitors in the 90s, the ones that’d give you a headache if you sat in front of them for too long 😅 Or maybe you just get so used to 144 fps once you make the switch that it’s impossible to go back.
GOW running at 40’ish fps as you say even at ultra must mean they cared to make a good game. I ought to give it a go just for the “Boy” meme.
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