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Couldbealeotard, do gaming w Elite Dangerous
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

FFXIV

I’m a huge FF fan, and 14 has a lot of praise so I had a go. I enjoyed FFXI somewhat so I thought maybe 14 would be enjoyable, but no matter how long I stuck around I just couldn’t figure out if it was fun. I spent a lot of time making number go up, but when I stepped away from the computer I felt like I hadn’t achieved anything.

I played through the base game. The first expansion. Began the second expansion. I reflected on my experience and I couldn’t even tell you what the game was about. It’s just walk here, click an NPC, walk there click an NPC, fight battle, repeat. And the battles are so boring; the expectation is that you learn the ideal rotation of attacks and abilities and you just apply that to 99% of battles and make sure to do them efficiently - if you can’t do that you are labelled a noob.

Maybe the difference between 11 and 14 was that I did 11 with a friend, so it felt like I was spending time with him, whereas I did 14 by myself.

Katana314,

Much as I love XIV’s story, I really needed to break up story progression with other content, just for variety. I leveled up all crafters, did many daily raids, etc.

Cethin, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 or Clair Obscur: Expedition 33?

They’re very different, so you need to figure it out for yourself. Both are great, but we don’t know your tastes. I would recommend BG3 though, for what is worth.

However, if you’re strapped for cash, I would recommend playing indie games. They’re often more interesting than these larger budget games (though these two are exceptions to large budget games being shit), and they’re usually like $20 max. Most people can get more out of Factorio or Dwarf Fortress, for example, than they can out of these games, at a much lower price.

nfreak,
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And tbh since OP said they’re generally more into Soulslikes and such, Silksong comes out in 2 days for $20

BurntWits,
@BurntWits@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah I read about that after posting. I’ll probably pick that up honestly, but these two games are both super tempting too.

toomanypancakes, do games w I'm playing Gears of War Reloaded, and I have a question. Will there be some point when the Chainsaw I've had for hours actually gets explained to me?

If you hold b it revs, and then you just run into an enemy without taking damage or you'll just stand there looking silly.

RampantParanoia2365,

So on PS5, it’s the O button, and X is run. I need to press both at the same time?

toomanypancakes,

Sorry, I meant you can just walk into them. It'll stay revved and ready to chainsaw as long as you hold the button until you get hit.

scrubbles,
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You just hold the rev button as you walk up to an enemy. Then Marcus screams and the large body becomes many pieces

Katana314,

Doesn’t need a run button. And, something kind of useful is that while revving, the game changes from strafe controls to tank controls, making it easier to orient at an enemy around a corner since you can’t reach your camera thumbstick.

NuXCOM_90Percent, do games w I'm playing Gears of War Reloaded, and I have a question. Will there be some point when the Chainsaw I've had for hours actually gets explained to me?

Considering it is a microsoft game, just wait for the Palestinian children to appear.


But to actually answer the question. Gears was a game from the late 00s/early 10s made by Epic who had been making THE best arena shooters for almost a decade at that point. The chainsaw bayonet is just another Impact Hammer or Gauntlet. It isn’t something you are actually supposed to use outside of stunting on other players. Which lines up with Gears being a cover shooter through and through and charging out of cover being a REALLY good way to get gunned down on all but the easiest of difficulty settings.

RampantParanoia2365,

I actually did play it on XBox back in the day, I just don’t remember anything. But yeah, I’m re-learning that pretty quick. Still though, the chainsaw is pretty awesome, why not explain it?

Dariusmiles2123,

I’m trying to avoid buying from companies on the palestinian boycott list, but I already know a Gears of War remake playable on Steam Deck is gonna be one exception.

emeralddawn45,

You dont have to buy it to play it. Then you get to skip all the epic game store bs too.

ampersandrew, do games w I'm playing Gears of War Reloaded, and I have a question. Will there be some point when the Chainsaw I've had for hours actually gets explained to me?
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

When it’s equipped, you just use your melee button, which ought to be B, if memory serves.

Kolanaki, do gaming w Elite Dangerous
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

RN It’s Starwdew Valley. I keep staying up all night being like “Just… One more day and I’m done.” 🤣

Every time I look up something I can’t figure out, I am presented with a bunch of tangenital items that I haven’t even seen yet and I’ve been grinding the game for two weeks now. And CA just announced it was getting more! This unassuming retro farming game is fucking massive. 😵‍💫

ivanafterall,
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And that’s without mods!

stephen, do games w I'm playing Gears of War Reloaded, and I have a question. Will there be some point when the Chainsaw I've had for hours actually gets explained to me?

Hahaha here I thought I’d just missed something in the beginning of the game. Turns out the game just doesn’t bother to teach its players how to play it.

RampantParanoia2365, (edited )

I mean, I’m pretty sure. I guess maybe there may have been a pop-up message I never noticed, but Dom explaining these new guns with friggin chainsaws on them, like, with his words, woulda been nice. I did figure out it’s O or B eventually, but I keep running up to people, pressing the button while he fails to start it, or lock on, then get blasted.

ampersandrew,
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This may have been a game that came out at the tail end of the instructional manual era, and missing a mechanic like this in the tutorial area would have been an oversight that they could live with.

CrayonDevourer,

It’s so weird that players these days don’t press buttons and figure shit out on their own…do you really need a tutorial for a basic weapon?

stephen,

The game begins with a tutorial.

Why would I be remiss to be confused as to why there is a tutorial, but not include any mention of the existence, let alone the use, of a basic weapon?

Further, yes, I expect all products to tell me about their features.

mohab, (edited )

Damn, you should steer clear of Japanese action games then.

Further, yes, I expect all products to tell me about their features.

Oh, really? I should get my money back from 20th Century Fox… they didn't tell me Fight Club had the twist feature at the end. Thank you for pointing that out.

I cannot believe I had to discover it myself as I was watching the movie. Bizarre stuff.

CrayonDevourer,

Games should allow you to discover their features, they shouldn’t be telling you directly. That’s the cool part of figuring out a new combo in Mortal Kombat, etc.

They don’t give you a clippy tooltip that says “Press Up Up Down B A Down Down to rip this bitches head off!” – You figure out the combos on your own, or with friends.

This idea of every little thing having to be presented DIRECTLY to the user is laziness. There are ways to help a user discover things narratively.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

Its a generational mindset. Because, remember, the game this is “reloading” came out in the late 00s

Back then? The idea was to teach you what is actually new in a given game. So the cover system, more or less. Shooting, aiming, and melee’ing were more or less bog standard by that point and players were mostly expected to understand it used the same controls as every other game or to take a quick visit to the controls page in the menu to see what the jump button was.

I forget if Gears actually teaches you the melee button or not. I want to say tapping melee is a rifle butt and you have to hold to chainsword? Which also lines up with games of the time. The charge and hold is mostly a humiliation kill you save for multiplayer and sizzle reels.

So to use… probably equally old nomenclature: it would be like teaching people how to do a no scope 360 during the tutorial.

mohab,

Capitalism + hyper consumerism. No time or patience to play around and discover. Gotta wrap up ASAP and move on to the next game.

That backlog isn't gonna play itself.

RampantParanoia2365,

Yes, amongst fights when I thought about it I tried and figured out the button. Then he wasn’t really locking on easily, and sometimes he just like, can’t start it after rolling or something, and then I get blasted. A few times doing that, and I got pissed and made this because everyone’s carrying the damn thing and I was just in prison. Why the holy fuck has no one daned to mention the goddamn chainsaw on everyone’s gun? So, really this is just a rant about design.

sickday, do gaming w Elite Dangerous
@sickday@fedia.io avatar

Traveling to Beagle Point be like

StopSpazzing, do gaming w That's what you think
@StopSpazzing@lemmy.world avatar

Is this from “Wolf Children”?

S_H_K, do gaming w Fuckin' ow

Few remember how annoying Vlad would be just before grevious wounds.

wjrii, do gaming w That's what you think

By the same token, when you do finally get back to the main missions you can tank them solo and keep all your companions safe at your base because you’re so damn OP.

Just try not to think too much about the conversations they’re having while you’re gone. 🤣

P00ptart,

They all go to different settlements.

sharkfucker420, do gaming w The name is Up. Fuck Up.
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

This is why I stopped playing csgo

HeyJoe, do gaming w Elite Dangerous

FF11 followed by Guild Wars. I would probably have many more if I didn’t get old and more responsibilities. When those came out, I was still living at my parents’ home for a few more years. I remember playing all night, and my parents got up and got ready for work, and I would go to bed just to avoid the shame and immediately go back on when they left.

drspod, do gaming w Elite Dangerous

I haven’t played E:D since before Odyssey released. I lost interest when they stopped supporting VR for the new content.

I did get a Fleet Carrier though. I wonder if it’s still there or if I ran out of upkeep money.

Good game, shame it’s a live service though. It will probably just die if/when they turn off the servers.

Stamets,
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I’m not sure what you’re talking about when it comes to VR. They never stopped supporting VR… Like at all. Odyssey also has full VR support and has since launch. I am genuinely confused as to why you think that

drspod,

The new on-foot FPS gameplay that they added with Odyssey didn’t get first class VR support. You can keep your headset on, but you have to switch to a regular control method and control the game as though it’s on a 2D monitor even though you’re wearing a 6DOF headset with motion controls available. For anyone that’s played VR, this is the worst kind of experience and very disappointing.

Making first-class VR controls is a lot of extra work, probably, but for a game that was sold as a flagship VR title when the original Oculus came out, it just leaves a bad taste for all the VR players, who felt like FDev were leaving them behind.

Maybe they’ve added better support now, but I wouldn’t know about that as I haven’t played it. On release it was a disappointment for VR players.

Kolanaki,
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Have to switch to a regular control method

Does the rest of the game support full motion controls now? It didn’t the last time I played, so it didn’t matter if you were in ship or on foot; you were doing everything with a normal controller, M&KB or joystick setup regardless. It always annoyed me because why can’t I just use my hands to move the throttle stick and steering column in-game?

drspod,

That’s a fair point. I used a HOTAS, the Logitech Saitek X52 which the in-game ship controls are modelled after, which was the most immersive way to play.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I’m still pissed that I attempted to buy that setup from Amazon like 3 times, and they would ship it but then cancel the order and refund me without explanation. I want one of those so damn bad 😭

beneeney,

Yeah, I also used to play E:D a lot until Odyssey dropped. VR+HOTAS was an amazing experience despite the grindy nature of the game. I enjoyed every second of it - but wow Odyssey really threw it out the window.

I’ve been playing No Man’s Sky a lot lately and it’s super fun, but it makes me want to try E:D again. I don’t have VR anymore, but I wonder if it would be good with head-tracking. I also feel like I’ve missed out on so much of the ongoing story the past few years.

sharkfucker420, do gaming w Elite Dangerous
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Silksoon

grimdeter,

Two more days brother

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