Idk how much it fits into your understanding of racing games, but one of my favorite vibing games of all time is Slipstream.
My favorite traditional racing game is the old DiRT 2. I‘m just not much of a sim guy, I dislike having to fight the car too much, it starts to feel like I’m trying to steer a washing machine on ice. I am challenging myself with DiRT Rally 2.0 (yes, confusing) though, not sure how far I‘ll get.
Dirt Rally 2 is excellent! I've actually walked along a couple of the stages too, I was quite impressed by how well they recreated them. The limitations on multiplayer formats annoyed me quite a lot, but I do think it's the only game I've ever played where rallycross felt like it really worked well, and I love the rallycross format
I've been keeping an eye out for BallisticNG! Sadly it wasn't significantly discounted in the sale, so it's one to pick up either when it is on sale or when I have gotten through the rest of my unplayed games. I was initially put off a little by just how hard it seemed to be aping early Wipeout, but someone on here persuaded me to take a look
What's Redout actually like to play? I have seen a little bit of gameplay and it looks like it's aiming above all to feel as blindingly fast as possible
Redout is a weird one. It got a lot of comparisons to F-Zero because of the speed but it plays a lot more like Wipeout, or like an F-Zero/Wipeout hybrid. It’s very fast, and the steering mechanics are interesting as it requires using both joysticks to steer through a lot of turns. I like it, but find it pretty difficult. The ships tend to be a bit floaty and the main thing is controlling well to not hit walls as they utterly kill your momentum.
With BallisticNG, it does ape on Wipeout a lot (by design) but it’s an absolute love letter to the series and is extremely polished. It also has workshop support for all kinds of custom tracks and ships.
There are things BallisticNG does though that are really interesting, like solo races where your goal is to go as far as possible without exploding from damage. You can’t use the brakes and it gets faster every few sections. Those are probably my favorite races.
Watching a couple of videos just now, I do think that Redout has managed to develop a far stronger visual and musical language than most of its competitors outside of Wipeout (and Pacer, to a lesser degree). The long high-precision aerial segments look difficult, but in the kind of way that would be really satisfying to get right
There are things BallisticNG does though that are really interesting, like solo races where your goal is to go as far as possible without exploding from damage. You can’t use the brakes and it gets faster every few sections. Those are probably my favorite races.
That's actually something Wipeout did, it's one of the few things from Fusion that people liked enough for it to be brought back. But it's a lot of fun, so seeing it in in BallisticNG is a selling point for me
That’s actually something Wipeout did, it’s one of the few things from Fusion that people liked enough for it to be brought back.
Ah, I didn’t know that, I’ve never played the series past 3 and XL.
Just a heads up to, BNG has a 2097 mode as well, with entirely different physics/control. It’s still in dev builds but it seems like the goal is to integrate both styles from OG Wipeout (2085 and 2097) within the game as separate campaigns.
I recently started playing BallisticNG, having never played the Wipeout games. I’m finding it hypnotic and the controls feel great. I’m still on baby speeds by the game’s standards.
Out of curiosity, I looked up videos of the PS1 Wipeout games for reference and they looked slow in comparison!
It definitely was slow compared to BNG. The later games picked up the pace a bit, but never to that extent. The focus was more on trying to race cleanly with very slidey and floaty physics. In the original particularly, touching the walls at all would immediately bring you to a complete halt
If you like retro-inspired arcade racers, Slipstream is a fucking blast. You can use your own music if you want to and there are mods to add more cars.
Hah, that looks like the gameplay of PS3 / Xbox 360 era Ridge Racer but sent back to Ridge Racer 1993 graphics. Definitely seems like one of those delightful projects where someone just has nostalgia for something and also has the skills and drive to just do it themselves
This was when MS went sweeping in and started wide brushing over usernames as well. My friends’ tags were Babyfetaljuice and Yourmomstampon and they were forced to change them to keep playing.
Strive 2.0 probably means they’ll expand the game’s life like they did with REV, by making a REV2 update instead of shifting to a new game altogheter. The new update will probably cost around 30/35 euros. I’m good with this, I think GG:ST has so much life left in it. Incredible how it has been around 5 years already.
Even this is only a guess. There are a lot of reasons why developers got away from this model, and there are one or two reasons why I’m the weirdo who wants us to return to it.
Did developers really shift away from it though? I feel like season passes and updates brought the concept closer, in fact, by prolonging a game’s life without having to buy the same game three or four times (which is what happened back with Street Fighter 4).
Season passes and updates are what they’re doing now rather than splitting their player base with a new SKU. But of course, that new SKU comes with advantages like being able to freeze the game at a certain point in its life.
yeah, but at the same time no one usually plays the older version of games such as SF4 and GGXXAC+RR! Rare exception is Street Fighter Alpha 2, simply because it was a different world and americans were too used to that one version.
So at that point might as well have one very long game that is frozen at the end of its 5-8 years old life cycle.
No one plays the old version now because we have no choice. Plenty of people would have preferred to go back to Tekken season 1 and Dragon Ball FighterZ season 2, but we didn’t get that option.
I would be incredibly surprised if they charge for the update. It makes no sense to do so, you just split the community. And they announced 2 new characters(at least), so V2 will come with a new season pass they will charge for.
I also presume the V2 is the release of the new ranked mode, which hopefully fixes the garbage tower and it’s floor mechanic(preferably just delete it and give us a ranked queue with elo please)
I think you had to pay for the Rev2 upgrade? I understand what you mean though, they should probably include it in the new season pass. I really hope they release the new ranked mode way before the next year.
Capcom vs. SNK 2 was in the extended lineup. It’s great to see those passionate communities still playing those games 25 years later, even with plenty of new blood, though I will admit that both games fall into a situation where the top tier characters are so dominant that you don’t get a lot of variety in character selection in top 8, which can dampen the excitement a bit.
I hope Capcom brings an optional mode for new balance, like they added the option to disable roll cancel. The game is too unique with its mechanics, I think it’s one of the most interesting games ever with the modes, but the balance just isn’t great, which is holding the game back.
I was lucky that Strive top 8 were played early, so I could enjoy them at a decent time despite being in CEST. Bit unfortunate with the character variety, a lot of HC and Goldlewis matches and Johnny has proven to be very strong as people predicted. Would have preferred to see Ram win. Not that she’s weak, but in my opinion more interesting and somewhat underplayed. But alas.
Strive has excellent variety right now. Out of eight players, we had eight different characters. The nature of a tournament is that you’ll see repeats of the characters played by the people who stay in longer. The problem with a game like CvS2 is that you see those same characters over and over again throughout the pools stages, and you see very similar teams across the players in top 8. That Ramlethal player won the ArcSys world tour very recently, also.
I guess you’re right, my complaint was mostly about about the part of groups that I watched that was I think three Goldlewis matches in a row.
I don’t think the balance for Strive is in a really bad spot, and character skills can outweigh statistical advantages. Maybe it’s just that I dislike Goldlewis and HC due to their oppressive playstyles that I remember them as negative examples.
Didn’t want to complain really, the matches were hype, I got some really good laughs out of them too when RedDitto grabbed opponents in the most insane situations. Good stuff all around
I’ve competed on stage in a rural village in F-29 Retaliatory head2head tournament (over serial cable) around 1993. I’ve gotten to grab first place in a Bo3 single elimination format, defeating my nemesis, Lil’ Cloud, in the finals. I took home a mobo for a 286 (but no cpu, PC case, peripherals or anything else). For a bonus prize, they’ve pitted me against the final final boss, the IT admin from the neighbouring town. I’ve beaten him 4:1 in a Bo7, and my reward was an AdLib card. I did end up using this one in a 386 SX build that my dad bought me a couple months later.
Despite being on stage, I do not remember having any stage fright at all. I remember the crowd around us, but everything got drowned out by the sound blasters screeching the noise into my ears through some cheapo cans. I just remember being baffled that after having my toughest final against Lil’ Cloud, I suddenly have another challenger I have to sit down against.
Around '97 I got sucked in by Quake II in PC cafes, mostly playing FFAs on LAN. However the Q2 scene gradually moved on to QuakeWorld, Quake 3 Arena and Counter Strike. Since my PC was always lagging behind in performance, I chose to stick with QuakeWorld, and mostly played in 320x200 software rendering so I could aim for 120Hz + 120 fps vsync as time passed.
Around this time, between 98-2003 there were a couple LANs in and around Budapest that were CPL feeder events, however QuakeWorld has long been dropped from the biggest international events, and was relegated to mostly online tournaments and smaller local LANs only. Despite this, they always allowed QuakeWorld players in and even offered prices for first three places within categories. However the participants gradually declined from 50:50 Q3/QW to 50:40:10 CS/Q3/QW to 75:20:5 CS/Q3/QW by the end.
In the last LAN where they still allowed QW players in, must have been around 2003, I think we had no more than 50 players out of 600+.
I’ve competed, but not on stage, in the 1v1 category, choking due to nervousness around the quarterfinals, dropping to Loser’s Bracker. I did lose my LB match as well, the nerves never recovered. I remember one of my buddies talking over my shoulder, asking me wtf was wrong with me that I’m making all these mistakes. I came out as a sweaty mess from both matches, feeling totally defeated and unable to process why things were going the way they did. It haunts me to this day and gave me flashbacks to it in online competitive play, like WoW’s Arena 2v2/3v3.
I also competed in 2v2 at the tournament with my best bud as my partner later that day. The nerves were still pretty bad, but I was relying on my partner’s skill to carry us, along with some clever map selections. It was a Bo5, and we knew that with my nerves shot we had to focus on just one map that had mixed shaft (lightning gun)/rocket launcher (RL) play in order to take the series, as otherwise we could dominate maps that relied on RL only, as predictive spawn lockdowns was our forte, in contrast with raw skill/aim. Basically the moment we won first draw for map selection, we knew we could make it a 3:1 or 3:2 at worst if we selected our least favoured map and won it. I’ve still made a lot of mistakes in heated moments, and we did have to draw out one map by deliberately avoiding respawns near the end of the match in order to deny our opponents a win, but in the end my partner carried us to victory.
While the 2v2 finals were not exactly on stage, they did put a cam on a big screen and we also had a bit of a crowd forming around us. Smoking a light joint an hour before the match did help though. I forgot what we won. I just remember receiving a trophy at the finals ceremony and feeling completely undeserving of it. And then moving out of my parent’s basement and in with my buddy, getting high 24/7 for the next 6 months.
As for the question is it even worth it: yes, yes it is. Not when you are older though. At 20+ you are already aged out, and the commitment required is tremendous just to scrape the bottom of the barrel. Better stick to turn based strategy.
I been competing in fighting game tournaments for over a decade. Its a blast, even if you suck. The fighting game community is one of the most welcoming competitive environments I’ve ever been apart of. 10/10, highly recommend.
This. The great thing about fighting games is that today is one of the best times to join: there’s lots of online activity, long past the days in which you needed a local tournament to actually play. You will find a passionate player about literally any fighting game on earth, no matter if it’s an indie title (I suggest Punch Planet!) or an old KOF classic. Hell, good rollback implementation even makes playing on (decent) wi-fi actually acceptable.
Mass effect had this weird metamorphosis across the series where the character writing and gameplay improved noticeably between each game in the series while the story and mechanics took big steps back. Andromeda had some of the best movement/power sets in the series, not to mention your own build-a-gun workshop, while absolutely failing at everything else it tried to do. “My face is tired” indeed random not-the-citadel lady.
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